Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

Porky said:

Hey Tom,

You are hereby invited to a New Year's Celebration on Jan 1st, at the
locale where you purchased that great Sunset Lowracer of yours. Meet
around 10 AM, rain, snow, or whatever. Bring a dish if you want.
Expect the same crowd you've known for many years including celebrities
holding world cycling records, multiple competitors from Battle
Mountain, famous recumbent webmasters, and some of your silent
supporters.

This will be our 6th consecutive "start the New Year right" party. And
NO KILLER BEE ASSWIPE will be needed.

Contact the Seller for details.

Porky - not really

Will Jimmy Mac be there? 😉

I should be able to find my way there - I can just follow the Fox
River.
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Porky said:

Hey Tom,

You are hereby invited to a New Year's Celebration on Jan 1st, at the
locale where you purchased that great Sunset Lowracer of yours. Meet
around 10 AM, rain, snow, or whatever. Bring a dish if you want.
Expect the same crowd you've known for many years including celebrities
holding world cycling records, multiple competitors from Battle
Mountain, famous recumbent webmasters, and some of your silent
supporters.

This will be our 6th consecutive "start the New Year right" party. And
NO KILLER BEE ASSWIPE will be needed.

Contact the Seller for details.

Porky - not really

You could all put your heads together and figure out how to actually win a race in 2006.

nget said:

Porky said:

Hey Tom,

You are hereby invited to a New Year's Celebration on Jan 1st, at the
locale where you purchased that great Sunset Lowracer of yours. Meet
around 10 AM, rain, snow, or whatever. Bring a dish if you want.
Expect the same crowd you've known for many years including
celebrities
holding world cycling records, multiple competitors from Battle
Mountain, famous recumbent webmasters, and some of your silent
supporters.

This will be our 6th consecutive "start the New Year right" party.
And
NO KILLER BEE ASSWIPE will be needed.

Contact the Seller for details.

Porky - not really

You could all put your heads together and figure out how to actually
win a race in 2006.

Check out the HPRA racing results page:
<http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm>.

Look through the results and you will not find a case of a highracer
winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

quote='Johnny Sunset'nget said:

Porky said:

Hey Tom,

You are hereby invited to a New Year's Celebration on Jan 1st, at the
locale where you purchased that great Sunset Lowracer of yours. Meet
around 10 AM, rain, snow, or whatever. Bring a dish if you want.
Expect the same crowd you've known for many years including
celebrities
holding world cycling records, multiple competitors from Battle
Mountain, famous recumbent webmasters, and some of your silent
supporters.

This will be our 6th consecutive "start the New Year right" party.
And
NO KILLER BEE ASSWIPE will be needed.

Contact the Seller for details.

Porky - not really

You could all put your heads together and figure out how to actually
win a race in 2006.

Check out the HPRA racing results page:
<http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm>.

Look through the results and you will not find a case of a highracer
winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley[/QUOTE]

How many times do they need to go around the circle to egual one "RAAM."

nget (who is hypothesized by some to be Ed Dolan) said:

Johnny Sunset said:

nget who? said:

...
You could all put your heads together and figure out how to actually
win a race in 2006.

Check out the HPRA racing results page:
<http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm>.

Look through the results and you will not find a case of a highracer
winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.

How many times do they need to go around the circle to egual one
"RAAM."

RAAM in many ways is more a test of team organization than bike speed:
<http://www.adventurecorps.com/when/raam/1989raam2.html>.

Put power measuring cranks (and riders with equal mass and frontal
area) on a Bacchetta Aero and Velokraft NoCom [Fastest Unfaired Bike in
the Known Universe] and see which is faster under equal power inputs -
uphill, downhill, into the wind, any paved road in the US, Canada,
Japan or Europe, etc. Unless the trial is done in more than 4 or 5
inches of standing water, the NoCom will be faster than the Aero
(assuming both bikes are properly setup and in good working order).

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

quote='Johnny Sunset'nget (who is hypothesized by some to be Ed Dolan) said:

Johnny Sunset said:

nget who? said:

...
You could all put your heads together and figure out how to actually
win a race in 2006.

Check out the HPRA racing results page:
<http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm>.

Look through the results and you will not find a case of a highracer
winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.

How many times do they need to go around the circle to egual one
"RAAM."

RAAM in many ways is more a test of team organization than bike speed:
<http://www.adventurecorps.com/when/raam/1989raam2.html>.

Put power measuring cranks (and riders with equal mass and frontal
area) on a Bacchetta Aero and Velokraft NoCom [Fastest Unfaired Bike in
the Known Universe] and see which is faster under equal power inputs -
uphill, downhill, into the wind, any paved road in the US, Canada,
Japan or Europe, etc. Unless the trial is done in more than 4 or 5
inches of standing water, the NoCom will be faster than the Aero
(assuming both bikes are properly setup and in good working order).

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley[/QUOTE]

Try this test. Take both bikes in question to the top of a small hill. Let go of both bikes without riders and tell us all which is the faster of the two.
Until the time comes when either your test or mine is done, is it not premature to claim which is the fastest unfaired bike in the known universe?
Isn't it time to bury the hatchet?

"Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

nget (who is hypothesized by some to be Ed Dolan) ...

[...]

It is entirely possible that Ed Dolan could be taken for God Almighty, but
that is the only One he could ever be hypothesized for. Like God, Ed Dolan
is a Great Ego and he will have no other Egos before him (least of all the
likes of a Tom Sherman)!

Tom Sherman rocks? Well, he has rocks in his head all right and he is surely
headed for the old rocking chair, but those are the only rocks I know about
in connection with him.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Tom,

Lugging around a body mass in excess off 600 lbs is quite diffficult.
Jimmy Mac's domain is restricted to the 4 walls as pictured at his
Forest Glen Compound within Chicago City Limits:

http://highracers.blogspot.com/2005/12/killer-bees-hire-jimmy-mac-as-their.html

I'd venture to guess he doesn't fit inside his compact car anymore
either.

Yeah, Just follow the Rd. to McDonalds and his street is right there.

See ya for the New Year!!!!!

Porky - not in the least

"nget" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Johnny Sunset said:

nget (who is hypothesized by some to be Ed Dolan) said:

Johnny Sunset Wrote:
> nget who? wrote:
> > ...
> > You could all put your heads together and figure out how to

actually

Quoted message said:

> > win a race in 2006.
>
> Check out the HPRA racing results page:
> <http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm>.
>
> Look through the results and you will not find a case of a

highracer

Quoted message said:

> winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.

How many times do they need to go around the circle to egual one
"RAAM."

RAAM in many ways is more a test of team organization than bike speed:
<http://www.adventurecorps.com/when/raam/1989raam2.html>.

Put power measuring cranks (and riders with equal mass and frontal
area) on a Bacchetta Aero and Velokraft NoCom [Fastest Unfaired Bike
in
the Known Universe] and see which is faster under equal power inputs -
uphill, downhill, into the wind, any paved road in the US, Canada,
Japan or Europe, etc. Unless the trial is done in more than 4 or 5
inches of standing water, the NoCom will be faster than the Aero
(assuming both bikes are properly setup and in good working order).

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Try this test. Take both bikes in question to the top of a small hill.
Let go of both bikes without riders and tell us all which is the faster
of the two.
Until the time comes when either your test or mine is done, is it not
premature to claim which is the fastest unfaired bike in the known
universe?
Isn't it time to bury the hatchet?

--
nget

I'm pretty sure that in this particular test my TerraTrike would beat them
both. Eventually. ;-)

Jerry

Quoted message said:

Will Jimmy Mac be there? 😉

I should be able to find my way there - I can just follow the Fox
River.
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

The Fox River flows all the way Porky Gin's residence?

Ohio Jerry said:

"nget" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Johnny Sunset said:

nget (who is hypothesized by some to be Ed Dolan) said:

Johnny Sunset Wrote:
> nget who? wrote:
> > ...
> > You could all put your heads together and figure out how to

actually

Quoted message said:

> > win a race in 2006.
>
> Check out the HPRA racing results page:
> <http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm>.
>
> Look through the results and you will not find a case of a

highracer

Quoted message said:

> winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.

How many times do they need to go around the circle to egual one
"RAAM."

RAAM in many ways is more a test of team organization than bike speed:
<http://www.adventurecorps.com/when/raam/1989raam2.html>.

Put power measuring cranks (and riders with equal mass and frontal
area) on a Bacchetta Aero and Velokraft NoCom [Fastest Unfaired Bike
in
the Known Universe] and see which is faster under equal power inputs -
uphill, downhill, into the wind, any paved road in the US, Canada,
Japan or Europe, etc. Unless the trial is done in more than 4 or 5
inches of standing water, the NoCom will be faster than the Aero
(assuming both bikes are properly setup and in good working order).

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Try this test. Take both bikes in question to the top of a small hill.
Let go of both bikes without riders and tell us all which is the faster
of the two.
Until the time comes when either your test or mine is done, is it not
premature to claim which is the fastest unfaired bike in the known
universe?
Isn't it time to bury the hatchet?

--
nget

I'm pretty sure that in this particular test my TerraTrike would beat them
both. Eventually. ;-)

Jerry

Your right about that, but what do you think those guys are going to do with the hatchet?

Porky said:

Tom,

Lugging around a body mass in excess off 600 lbs is quite diffficult.
Jimmy Mac's domain is restricted to the 4 walls as pictured at his
Forest Glen Compound within Chicago City Limits:

http://highracers.blogspot.com/2005/12/killer-bees-hire-jimmy-mac-as-their.html

I'd venture to guess he doesn't fit inside his compact car anymore
either.

Yeah, Just follow the Rd. to McDonalds and his street is right there.

See ya for the New Year!!!!!

That is good news - I wouldn't want to be associated with Jimmy Mac's
stinky straw man!

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Will Jimmy Mac be there? 😉

I should be able to find my way there - I can just follow the Fox
River.
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

The Fox River flows all the way Porky Gin's residence?

The "expert" on all things related to Ed Gin should be aware that I did
not buy either Sunset from Ed Gin.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Edward Dolan said:

...
Why does Ed Gin always have ass on his mind?....

As an acronym for above seat steering "ASS" should be in all capital
letters.

I must admit all the bikes I have seen Ed Gin riding have been Above
Seat Steering, and for his trike period Ed also had Above Seat Steering
(AVD Windcheetah "Speedy"😉.

I disagree with Ed Gin about the shape - Ed prefers "C" bars while I
prefer "T" bars.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

"Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Edward Dolan said:

...
Why does Ed Gin always have ass on his mind?....

As an acronym for above seat steering "ASS" should be in all capital
letters.

I must admit all the bikes I have seen Ed Gin riding have been Above
Seat Steering, and for his trike period Ed also had Above Seat Steering
(AVD Windcheetah "Speedy"😉.

I disagree with Ed Gin about the shape - Ed prefers "C" bars while I
prefer "T" bars.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

The former Ed Gin NoCom has "T" bars, while a couple other members of the
carbon fiber NoCom armada in Chicago preferred "C" bars. Yet when referring
to Ed Dolan, one could properly and quite correctly use the word "ass".

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gotbent said:

"Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Edward Dolan said:

...
Why does Ed Gin always have ass on his mind?....

As an acronym for above seat steering "ASS" should be in all capital
letters.

I must admit all the bikes I have seen Ed Gin riding have been Above
Seat Steering, and for his trike period Ed also had Above Seat Steering
(AVD Windcheetah "Speedy"😉.

I disagree with Ed Gin about the shape - Ed prefers "C" bars while I
prefer "T" bars.

The former Ed Gin NoCom has "T" bars, while a couple other members of the
carbon fiber NoCom armada in Chicago preferred "C" bars. Yet when referring
to Ed Dolan, one could properly and quite correctly use the word "ass".

I was recalling when Young Monkey bought the "seat forward" Baron from
Little Barbie [1], Ed convinced YM to put "C" bars on it instead of the
narrow crossbar and vertical bar-ends that Scooter devised. (I remember
discussing this with the Big Bent Brat at the Easter ride at GSU a
couple of years ago.)

[1] <http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/BaronBarb.jpg>.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

"gotbent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[...]

Quoted message said:

The former Ed Gin NoCom has "T" bars, while a couple other members of the
carbon fiber NoCom armada in Chicago preferred "C" bars. Yet when
referring to Ed Dolan, one could properly and quite correctly use the word
"ass".

This ass, Ed Dolan, never wants to be anywhere in the vicinity of that other
ass, Ed Gin. In fact, Chicagoland is a good place to stay away from as your
ass is in mortal danger there from the Chicago armada (whatever that is).

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Main Entry: ar·ma·da
Pronunciation: är-'mä-d&, -'mA- also -'ma-
Function: noun
Etymology: Spanish, from Medieval Latin armata army, fleet, from Latin,
feminine of armatus, past participle of armare to arm, from arma
1 : a fleet of warships
2 : a large force or group usually of moving things <an armada of fishing
boats>

Merriam-Webster Online

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Quoted message said:

gotbent said:

"Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Edward Dolan wrote:
> ...
> Why does Ed Gin always have ass on his mind?....

As an acronym for above seat steering "ASS" should be in all capital
letters.

I must admit all the bikes I have seen Ed Gin riding have been Above
Seat Steering, and for his trike period Ed also had Above Seat Steering
(AVD Windcheetah "Speedy"😉.

I disagree with Ed Gin about the shape - Ed prefers "C" bars while I
prefer "T" bars.

The former Ed Gin NoCom has "T" bars, while a couple other members of
the
carbon fiber NoCom armada in Chicago preferred "C" bars. Yet when
referring
to Ed Dolan, one could properly and quite correctly use the word "ass".

I was recalling when Young Monkey bought the "seat forward" Baron from
Little Barbie [1], Ed convinced YM to put "C" bars on it instead of the
narrow crossbar and vertical bar-ends that Scooter devised. (I remember
discussing this with the Big Bent Brat at the Easter ride at GSU a
couple of years ago.)

[1] <http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/BaronBarb.jpg>.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

I remember seeing those C bars through the back window as YM wheelsucked,
errr, motorpaced Ed's van doing a practice century as Frank and Alan flew
around Kaneville.

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