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  1. In article
    <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    ...

    Quoted message said:

    comfort. I did however manage to have a nice sunburn
    pattern on my feet where the sandals weren't 🙂

    Been there, done that big time!

    --
    Dave Kerber Fight spam: remove the ns_ from the return
    address before replying!

    REAL programmers write self-modifying code.

  2. Quoted message said:

    I just want to ride my bike. I don't want to futz around
    with funny shoes.

    =v= I like this product:

    powergrips.compowergrips.com

    It accommodates a variety of non-funny shoes, better than
    toe clips IMHO. <_Jym_

  3. If you find an unimportant disagreement about posting style the most
    annoying thing on Usenet, you're lucky. 🙂

    DRS said:

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  4. what the hey is a top-poster??

    cheers

    don

    "MP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If you find an unimportant disagreement about posting
    style the most annoying thing on Usenet, you're lucky. 🙂

    DRS said:

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  5. MP said:

    If you find an unimportant disagreement about posting style
    the most annoying thing on Usenet, you're lucky. 🙂

    DRS said:

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

    Think it had to do with the order of the A and Q than as a
    serious answer. Subtle is OK too.

    Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
    two wheels...

  6. He apparently doesn't like it when people put their
    responses at the top of a message, as I am doing here,
    rather than at the bottom, the answer in front of the
    question.

    Personally, I think it makes a lot more sense to do it this
    way. If someone has been following the thread, he will know
    what has gone before, and can scroll down to refresh his
    memory if necessary.

    MP

    Don said:

    what the hey is a top-poster??

    cheers

    don

    "MP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If you find an unimportant disagreement about posting
    style the most annoying thing on Usenet, you're lucky. 🙂

    DRS said:

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?


  7. oh geez.. if that is his big problem rather than all the
    stupid off topic and multi crossposted bullfeathers we see
    posted, he needs to get a life.. LOL LOL LOL

    "MP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    He apparently doesn't like it when people put their
    responses at the top of a message, as I am doing here,
    rather than at the bottom, the answer in front of the
    question.

    Personally, I think it makes a lot more sense to do it
    this way. If someone has been following the thread, he
    will know what has gone before, and can scroll down to
    refresh his memory if necessary.

    MP

    Don said:

    what the hey is a top-poster??

    cheers

    don

    "MP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If you find an unimportant disagreement about posting
    style the most annoying thing on Usenet, you're
    lucky. 🙂

    On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 07:45:53 +1000, "DRS"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > A: Top-posters.
    > Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  8. Curtis L. Russell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    MP said:

    If you find an unimportant disagreement about posting
    style the most annoying thing on Usenet, you're lucky. 🙂

    DRS said:

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

    Think it had to do with the order of the A and Q than as a
    serious answer. Subtle is OK too.

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    B: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

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    In article <[email hidden]>, Jym Dyer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just want to ride my bike. I don't want to futz around
    with funny shoes.

    =v= I like this product:

    powergrips.compowergrips.com

    It accommodates a variety of non-funny shoes, better than
    toe clips IMHO.

    - - They do look kind of goofy, but IMHO they are the next
    best thing to clipless pedals and shoes. Much better than
    clips and straps with ordinary shoes.

    _ Clips and straps aren't as useful as you might think. You
    really need an agressive tread on the shoe or cleats to get
    much out of them. They'll help you spin faster, which can be
    more efficient. Basically, if you can pull your foot
    straight back out of whatever is attaching foot to pedal
    it's hard to improve the efficiency of your stroke.

    _ Clipless pedals aren't magic, it takes a fair amount of
    practice to get a pedal stroke that can take full advantage
    of them. Many people believe that learning to ankle and pull
    through the tops and bottoms is not really doing much to
    make you go faster or easier. I'm not one of them, but even
    after 30 years I'm still working on perfecting it.

    _ Booker C. Bense

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    In article <[email hidden]>, Jym Dyer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just want to ride my bike. I don't want to futz around
    with funny shoes.

    =v= I like this product:

    powergrips.compowergrips.com

    It accommodates a variety of non-funny shoes, better than
    toe clips IMHO.

    - - They do look kind of goofy, but IMHO they are the next
    best thing to clipless pedals and shoes. Much better than
    clips and straps with ordinary shoes.

    _ Clips and straps aren't as useful as you might think. You
    really need an agressive tread on the shoe or cleats to get
    much out of them. They'll help you spin faster, which can
    be more efficient. Basically, if you can pull your foot
    straight back out of whatever is attaching foot to pedal
    it's hard to improve the efficiency of your stroke.

    Ther's a tradeoff you have to make between efficiency and
    non-goofiness. If you're a hard-core, high-category cyclo-
    sportif type, then efficiency takes it. If you're just going
    on a beer run, non-goofiness takes it.

    =-Luigi

  11. <[email hidden].-
    edu> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    powergrips.compowergrips.com

    It accommodates a variety of non-funny shoes, better than
    toe clips IMHO.

    - - They do look kind of goofy, but IMHO they are the next
    best thing to clipless pedals and shoes. Much better
    than clips and straps with ordinary shoes.

    They're dangerous in that when your foot twists, they trap
    your foot -- not good in a crash.

    Quoted message said:

    _ Clips and straps aren't as useful as you might think.
    You really need an agressive tread on the shoe or cleats
    to get much out of them. They'll help you spin faster,
    which can be more efficient.

    Pedaling at higher cadences is actually less efficient.

    Quoted message said:

    Basically, if you can pull your foot straight back out of
    whatever is attaching foot to pedal it's hard to improve
    the efficiency of your stroke.

    Pulling back on pedals doesn't improve efficiency.

    Quoted message said:

    _ Clipless pedals aren't magic, it takes a fair amount of
    practice to get a pedal stroke that can take full
    advantage of them. Many people believe that learning to
    ankle and pull through the tops and bottoms is not really
    doing much to make you go faster or easier.

    That would be anybody who has studied it.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not one of them, but even after 30 years I'm still
    working on perfecting it.

    Maybe in another 30 you'll get it.

  12. Steven M. O'Neill said:

    Hi. I'm a strong city cyclist, but I've never bothered with
    toe clips. Should I? Why or why not?

    Today I bought some cheap plastic toe clips, and put them
    on. Kept the straps loose. Love 'em. Thanks to everyone
    who responded

    --
    Steven O'Neill [email hidden] The bicycle is the true
    automobile.

  13. Yes, you are clearly an individual of great subtlety and
    sophistication.

    "DRS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden] (snip)

    Quoted message said:


    Top-posting (snip) don't understand subtle.

  14. Quoted message said:

    Yes, you are clearly an individual of great subtlety and
    sophistication.

    Whatever. Either use the clips or not, it's hardly an issue.

    I don't, in traffic. I find them to be an additional task
    load that I don't need.

    --

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    MIND_______________________ ------------------"Buddy Holly,
    the Texas Elvis"------------------ __________306.350.357.38-

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden]__________

  15. "MP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    He apparently doesn't like it when people put their
    responses at the top of a message, as I am doing here,
    rather than at the bottom, the answer in front of the
    question.

    I don't like top-posting myself. Then again, I don't like
    wrong-way cyclists, either.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
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    Home of the meditative cyclist:
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