Tobyjones looks okay

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From: [email hidden] (Mark)
Date: 3/17/2004 7:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
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P.S. I'm talking, of course, about Jan Drew.

Naaa,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I like to bother her

LOL!!! Keep trying. Me thinks it is you who is bothered.

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because...well, because she's repugnant. (Look it up, Jan.)

No need. I already looked you up.

my other hobby (time-waster in a big way is more like it) is
lurking around the Internet, annoying people who engage in
the dissemination of bozo-science medical advice. My
favorites are the "NutraSweet causes brain cancer" folks and
those who would have us believe that milk causes diabetes. I
could claim it's my duty as a high-falutin' medical
professional, but really it's just my natural pugnacious
tendency."

Most people out grow this, keep tryin Marky, maybe you will
grow up some day??

Jan

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Subject: Tobyjones looks okay

LOL!! The *gang* judges who looks OK!!!!!!!!

From: "Mark" <[email hidden]>
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 2:29 PM
Subject: Tobyjones looks okay

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Toby:

I think you are a good addition to this N.G.

Thank you. However, whether I will have enough time in the
future to contribute much, I don't know. I'd like to, but
..duties call. We'll see.

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You are, I guess we can say, "pro-alt", at least insofar
as you fall somewhere on the spectrum that is closer to
espousing alternative medicine.

Don't know about "espousing", but my life experience is
"alt", if that is what you mean.

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BUT...you also seem to have a decent head on your
shoulders. You don't automatically put up with nasty
cracks put forth by other "pro-alts", just because these
people are pro-alt.

And, no-one should assume endorsement of anything by
someone, due to their silence. If in doubt, ask 'em.
Sometimes the reason for silence, when one is otherwise
present, may be the sheer futility of any response.

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You call a spade a spade, and that's cool.

I usually prefer that others ask me something directly
rather than make assumptions, about anything. Probably we
all do, I don't know.

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Let's get back to discussing alt-med and leave the bigotry
and nonsense behind.

Ok.. Is there any alt therapy that you use or have ever
tried and found, at least not tooo bad? Anything you would
ever recommend, as a Doc to a patient?

(What kind of Doc are you?)

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I might not agree with you on all medical matters,

I hope it does not end in verbal fisticuffs 🙂 (You may
remind me of this if it were to occur)

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but I think you're right on when it comes to eschewing
bigotry and such stupidity.

Mark, MD

I saw a post somewhere today where you, too, spoke out
against it. I'm glad that you did. Seems like just about
everyone's put their cards on the table, as it were, irt
that. Helps to clear the air, so we are able to move on.

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From: "Mark" <[email hidden]> Newsgroups:
misc.health.alternative Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004
2:29 PM Subject: Tobyjones looks okay

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Let's get back to discussing alt-med and leave the
bigotry and nonsense behind.

Ok.. Is there any alt therapy that you use or have ever
tried and found, at least not tooo bad? Anything you would
ever recommend, as a Doc to a patient?

(What kind of Doc are you?)

I'm a pediatrician. I don't personally use that many
interventional therapies at all, alt or conventional. I
meditate a little and I like green tea, but I'll also take
ibuprofen on occasion if I have a headache. I'm open to the
idea of going to a chiro, but so far my back isn't giving me
any problems.

I have recommended alfalfa tea to breast-feeding Moms when
their milk supply seems inadequate to meet the baby's needs.
In my experience with this, it seems to have about a 50%
success rate (bearing in mind that in this series, my n=2)

Contrary to what others might say, I'm not part of Big
Pharma, I don't have a vested interest in maintaining the
status quo, I don't get a big fat check for suppressing
secret miracle cures...

...I'm interested in what works. If Hulda Clark were to ever
subject her methods to genuine scrutiny, and if such
scrutiny upheld her claims, I'd be the first to say Hooray.

The problem people like me have is that so much of "alt med"
is visciously antagonistic toward anyone who questions their
methods or efficacy. A conversation might start innocently
enough with a query about St John's Wort, for example, but
it can quickly spiral away from SJW and become a slugfest
with religion, ethnicity and all sorts of other nonsense
thrown in. And the antagonism comes from both sides, too.

What's your experience with alt med been like?

Mark, MD

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On 18 Mar 2004 22:43:54 GMT, [email hidden]

(Jan) said:

In the meantime, he just tell a few lies.

So tell us Jan. Is he a Jew or an atheist?? Inquiring
minds would like to know.

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Good Lord! He may even be an >>>*GASP*<<< agnostic
like myself.
--
Kim "We look at the ancient Greeks with their gods on a
mountain top throwing lightning bolts and say, 'Those
ancient Greeks. They were so silly. So primitive and naive.
Not like our religion. We have burning bushes talking to
people and guys walking on water. We're ...sophisticated.'"
-= Paul Provenza =-
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I have recommended alfalfa tea to breast-feeding Moms
when their milk supply seems inadequate to meet the
baby's needs. In my experience with this, it seems to
have about a 50% success rate (bearing in mind that in
this series, my n=2)

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I don't know if this will work for other mothers. It worked
for me when I was nursing my own son in the 1960s. Many
women, myself included do not DRINK enough water, juice and
milk when nursing infants. It was suggested to me to take a
*complete mineral supplement* and drink MORE liquids. More
of everything! I soon needed those pads to catch the excess
milk. Just a suggestion.

Yes, it has worked for a few other women I've known,... but
there's always that placebo effect.
--
Kim "We look at the ancient Greeks with their gods on a
mountain top throwing lightning bolts and say, 'Those
ancient Greeks. They were so silly. So primitive and naive.
Not like our religion. We have burning bushes talking to
people and guys walking on water. We're ...sophisticated.'"
-= Paul Provenza =-
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On 18 Mar 2004 22:43:54 GMT, [email hidden]

(Jan) said:

In the meantime, he just tell a few lies.

So tell us Jan. Is he a Jew or an atheist?? Inquiring
minds would like to know.

Aloha,

Rich

So, did your mamma or your daddy teach you to whine so much?
Was it "mamma mamma, those kids called me a name? Or was it
daddy daddy, those kids don't like me cause I'm whining
about the fact that they do not like me?