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  1. I stopped into the LBS today looking for a new set of knicks, but then set
    about talking about my potential fixed-gear conversion (an old road bike
    with horizontal dropouts). They suggested that it might be somewhat
    dangerous to try fixed-gearing in the city (where I live), and that I
    should do a singlespeed conversion.

    what are the advantages of going fixed? should I try adjusting chainline
    and spacing to convert to a "singlespeed" (while leaving the rear cluster
    and other chainrings on) first?

    -A

  2. qtq said:

    I stopped into the LBS today looking for a new set of knicks, but then set
    about talking about my potential fixed-gear conversion (an old road bike
    with horizontal dropouts). They suggested that it might be somewhat
    dangerous to try fixed-gearing in the city (where I live), and that I
    should do a singlespeed conversion.

    what are the advantages of going fixed? should I try adjusting chainline
    and spacing to convert to a "singlespeed" (while leaving the rear cluster
    and other chainrings on) first?

    Devotees of fixed-gear make a number of claims, but to me it appears
    to be entirely a matter of personal preference. I unintentionally
    created a fixie for a while a number of years back, and had to ride it
    that way daily for several weeks until I could undo what I'd screwed
    up in the hub. It's an experience I would trade for walking any day.
    Trying to get around in an area where foot trips abound meant that I
    had to be constantly swerving away from things that I could have
    coasted past safely, and curves that I'd have coasted through at speed
    became slow turns. The only way to find out whether you will like (or
    even be able to tolerate) a fixie is to try it. Those who adore them
    sometimes speak in glowing terms of the metaphysical pleasures of
    their rides, but to me, it was a plain, ordinary, unforgiving pain in
    the neck. I was glad to be done with it, and I won't be going there
    again.

    As for trying a single-speed, well, that's easy. Pick a single gear,
    get into it, and then Just Don't Shift. (This also allows you to
    change your mind on the fly, either about what ratio is best, or about
    the whole idea of single-speeding.)
    --
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  3. qtq said:

    I stopped into the LBS today looking for a new set of knicks, but then set
    about talking about my potential fixed-gear conversion (an old road bike
    with horizontal dropouts). They suggested that it might be somewhat
    dangerous to try fixed-gearing in the city (where I live), and that I
    should do a singlespeed conversion.

    what are the advantages of going fixed? should I try adjusting chainline
    and spacing to convert to a "singlespeed" (while leaving the rear cluster
    and other chainrings on) first?

    I like fixed because

    (a) it makes you work harder if you pick a suitable gear - my average
    speed cross-country is always higher on fixed. My two fastest time
    trial times this year were on a fixed 91" gear.

    (b) they're great uphill - low weight and the cranks are pushed over TDC
    and BDC for you - the so-called "flywheel effect"

    (c) the bike looks elegant and simple (but I do use a front brake)

    Fixed in traffic isn't really a problem provided your pedals are easy to
    clip into. You soon learn not to stop with the pedals at dead centres,
    which necessitates lifting the back wheel and spinning the cranks to a
    more suitable starting position!

    Fixed is worst on steep downhills, where you often have to use the brake
    all the way to avoid overspeeding your legs. I can only manage 150rpm
    (31mph on a 70" gear) - some trackies can do 200.

  4. qtq said:

    I stopped into the LBS today looking for a new set of knicks, but then set
    about talking about my potential fixed-gear conversion (an old road bike
    with horizontal dropouts). They suggested that it might be somewhat
    dangerous to try fixed-gearing in the city (where I live), and that I
    should do a singlespeed conversion.

    what are the advantages of going fixed? should I try adjusting chainline
    and spacing to convert to a "singlespeed" (while leaving the rear cluster
    and other chainrings on) first?

    As long as you build it with brakes it shouldn't be dangerous. I
    can't bunny hop last minute obstacles on my fixed gear (some people
    can) but other than that I can't think of anything that makes it more
    dangerous.

    I commute on a fixed gear and really enjoy it, but I couldn't tell you
    exactly why. Some folks don't like it at all. I suppose the only way
    you will find out which sort you are is to try it. Single speed is a
    different thing altogether.

  5. qtqzxw-<< They suggested that it might be somewhat
    dangerous to try fixed-gearing in the city (where I live), and that I
    should do a singlespeed conversion. >><BR><BR>

    A fixie forces you to pedal all the time(obviously) and can make a 'workout
    session' take less time. Fixies also force you to ride and pedal smoothly,
    particularly when going down hill.

    I think a single speed is not really worth it, as by not shifting a geared
    bike, you have a single speed.

    Fixies, with one brake, are the epitome of simplicity, IMO-

    http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/chisholm.htm

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  6. "> On 23 Sep 2004 13:10:07 GMT, [email hidden] (Qui si parla

    Quoted message said:
    Campagnolo ) said:

    I think a single speed is not really worth it, as by not shifting a


    geared

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bike, you have a single speed.



    I built one using a White Bros. freewheel and a front and rear brake,120mm
    rear spread. The spacing for chainline is the same as a fixie, so I can
    swap back and forth between the freewheel and fixed. Crank, chain is
    compatible with 1/8" pista. I also had the rear brake cable routed internal
    so it has a very clean look.

    I was going to say "Advantages?", but I'll say the difference between the
    fixie and the single-speed...simple:
    I can freewheel on the descents.
    -tom

  7. qtq <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I stopped into the LBS today looking for a new set of knicks, but then set
    about talking about my potential fixed-gear conversion (an old road bike
    with horizontal dropouts). They suggested that it might be somewhat
    dangerous to try fixed-gearing in the city (where I live), and that I
    should do a singlespeed conversion.

    what are the advantages of going fixed? should I try adjusting chainline
    and spacing to convert to a "singlespeed" (while leaving the rear cluster
    and other chainrings on) first?

    -A

    I was just riding my fixed gear last night and thinking about the fact
    that its safer for city riding. I do have brakes on mine. But, the
    fact that you can use your legs to slow the bike down gives you an
    extra brake that is always immediately available without reaching for
    the hand brake. It also gives you the option of track stands to stop
    and move around obstacles without braking and unclipping.

  8. Matt Cahill said:

    qtq <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I stopped into the LBS today looking for a new set of knicks, but then set
    about talking about my potential fixed-gear conversion (an old road bike
    with horizontal dropouts). They suggested that it might be somewhat
    dangerous to try fixed-gearing in the city (where I live), and that I
    should do a singlespeed conversion.

    what are the advantages of going fixed? should I try adjusting chainline
    and spacing to convert to a "singlespeed" (while leaving the rear cluster
    and other chainrings on) first?

    -A

    I was just riding my fixed gear last night and thinking about the fact
    that its safer for city riding. I do have brakes on mine. But, the
    fact that you can use your legs to slow the bike down gives you an
    extra brake that is always immediately available without reaching for
    the hand brake. It also gives you the option of track stands to stop
    and move around obstacles without braking and unclipping.

    I'll second that motion. I feel more comfortable riding my fixed gear (with front brake) in traffic and on campus because I have direct control over my speed with my legs, instead of having two separate mechanisms for acceleration and deceleration. The fact that I have to spin downhills (I live in berkeley, CA- they're big and steep here) probably actually makes me safer by virtue of the fact that I apply backpressure to prevent myself from spinning out and thus descend at a slower rate than on my gearie. You'd also be suprised how much you can bank without pedal strikes, even with 170 or 172.5 cranks. I can also trackstand at pretty much any light, not just ones where the slope allows it.

    I'd recommend starting out with a fairly low gear (less than 70"😉 because that emphasizes speed control with the legs and keeps things slow while you're learning.

    Ride on,
    Jeremy

  9. (Qui si parla Campagnolo ) said:


    I think a single speed is not really worth it, as by not shifting a geared
    bike, you have a single speed.

    No, you have a single speed with lot of extraneous junk that makes it
    inefficient, unreliable, fast-wearing, expensive, heavy, and ugly.
    Riding a derailleur bike when what you want is a single-speed is like
    using a Swiss army knife to eat dinner at home. It can be done, but
    why not use the elegant tool for the job?

    Chalo Colina

  10. Tom-<< I was going to say "Advantages?", but I'll say the difference between
    the
    fixie and the single-speed...simple:
    I can freewheel on the descents. >><BR><BR>

    Nancy....;-l)

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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