I am looking for some 700x25 tires for training/general use that are as resistant to flint penetration as possible.
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Does anyone have specific recommendations for tires that perform well that won't have me carrying 5 tubes around with me? The cold wet weather and the liberally strewn gravel is causing me serious problems.
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In the last few weeks I have tested:
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Kenda Koncept 23 ($9) IRC Red Storm RBCC 23 ($30) Veloflex Pave 22 ($45) Michelin Pro Race 25 ($45)
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All of them have had multiple flats each time out. I'm getting frustrated.
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Joseph
Another vote for Conti Gatorskins, but I'd also consider going up from a 25 to the 28mm.
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I had some GP 4 Seasons 622x28, and the calipers read 25.5mm. They rode nice enough and I got 1 flat (an office staple) in 1000 miles, but they wore fast - the 1000 miles was all I got out of a rear.
I switched back to Pasela 622x28 (a true 28), and they wear longer and are just as flat resistant at less than half the price. And the light tan sidewalls look great on my old PX-10.
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Hi All,
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I am looking for some 700x25 tires for training/general use that are as resistant to flint penetration as possible.
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Does anyone have specific recommendations for tires that perform
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that won't have me carrying 5 tubes around with me? The cold wet weather and the liberally strewn gravel is causing me serious problems.
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In the last few weeks I have tested:
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Kenda Koncept 23 ($9) IRC Red Storm RBCC 23 ($30) Veloflex Pave 22 ($45) Michelin Pro Race 25 ($45)
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All of them have had multiple flats each time out. I'm getting frustrated.
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I had some GP 4 Seasons 622x28, and the calipers read 25.5mm. They rode nice enough and I got 1 flat (an office staple) in 1000 miles, but they wore fast - the 1000 miles was all I got out of a rear.
I switched back to Pasela 622x28 (a true 28), and they wear longer and are just as flat resistant at less than half the price. And the light tan sidewalls look great on my old PX-10.
I have Pasela TGs in 700 x 25, 700 x 28 and 26 x 1 1/2. The ride is as close to the skippy bouncy feel of sewups as any tire I've used. I've been ridding on them for about 6 months and they seem to be wearing pretty fast. I have several sets of Conti 700 x 23 GPs. I like them too but they have an all together different feel. I got them at a very good price otherwise, I could have put a set of 4 Michelin tires on my car for less money.
I bought a set of Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires for a neighbor. They have a thick layer of soft rubber under the tread for added protection. I haven't tried them but they looked pretty tough (I didn't want to be fixing flats for her all of the time).
On Feb 3, 11:23 pm, "Ron Ruff" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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On Feb 3, 12:39 pm, "[email hidden]"
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<[email hidden]> wrote: > Hi All,
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> I am looking for some 700x25 tires for training/general use that are > as resistant to flint penetration as possible.
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> Does anyone have specific recommendations for tires that perform well > that won't have me carrying 5 tubes around with me? The cold wet > weather and the liberally strewn gravel is causing me serious > problems.
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> In the last few weeks I have tested:
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> Kenda Koncept 23 ($9) > IRC Red Storm RBCC 23 ($30) > Veloflex Pave 22 ($45) > Michelin Pro Race 25 ($45)
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> All of them have had multiple flats each time out. I'm getting > frustrated.
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> Joseph
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Specialized Armadillos... they ride like [censored], but they are tough.
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That must be very sharp gravel! Around here they use what looks like a reddish pumice, and it doesn't cause flats. I'm amazed that you can ride in Norway this time of year! I haven't been on the road in two weeks...
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The crushed gravel can be quite sharp, but I think it just from the sheer volume. It is just everywhere. Last winter was good enough that I didn't even both cycling for almost 5 months, I just skied. This winter has been so up and down that cycling has been impractical at most a few days at a stretch.
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They don't plow out where I live, they just strew more gravel. And since the weather has been bouncing up and down so much, they have strewn multiple times, so the gravel is just piling up.
I've heard dumping gravel on the roads is how they do it in Alaska too. Except I don't think its crushed gravel. Its regular big gravel. I met a person from Anchorage once and she said it was not until July before the roads were cleared of gravel to go riding. Riding on the pavement, not gravel covered pavement.
They use both around here. Mostly crushed though. The big gravel is used as filler for potholes and along the shoulder. Since the roads are narrower than 2 busses, the big gravel gets pulled out into the road particularly in the turns. As irritating as it is on a bike, I'm sure it's worse for motorcycles. And it's a killer for car windshields.
In town they don't bother shoveling snow, so it gets packed down to a bumpy mess of ice everywhere. Quite treacherous to walk on, and scores of people (particularly old people) break bones all the time. And then once the ice melts, before the gravel is swept up (happens once each year) all the gravel is like ball bearings on the pavement! Ok, enough ranting. Today I had a wonderful 145km ride on dry pavement with the sun out the whole time. And no flats! Tonight I'm off to the mainland to go XC-skiing. Life is good.
On Feb 3, 11:23 pm, "Ron Ruff" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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I've heard dumping gravel on the roads is how they do it in Alaska too. Except I don't think its crushed gravel. Its regular big gravel. I met a person from Anchorage once and she said it was not until July before the roads were cleared of gravel to go riding. Riding on the pavement, not gravel covered pavement.
I think it's just a rural thing where there's snow. In NW Montana Going to the Sun rd in Glacier Pk up to Logan Pass on the Continental Divide is just loaded with the stuff until mid-June, when they finally get all the snow plowed, and sweep the gravel just before opening the road. All the primary roads are plowed/salted/graveled, and secondary paved plowed/graveled. There is a ton of gravel on the shoulders on the primary roads. It's April-May before they get around to sweeping it off the shoulder. I just ride over it: it's a special bicycle-tire-flat-resistant variety: made in the USA
I am looking for some 700x25 tires for training/general use that are as resistant to flint penetration as possible.
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Another vote for Conti Gatorskins, but I'd also consider going up from a 25 to the 28mm.
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I had some GP 4 Seasons 622x28, and the calipers read 25.5mm. They rode nice enough and I got 1 flat (an office staple) in 1000 miles, but they wore fast - the 1000 miles was all I got out of a rear.
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Here's what I get for the 4-seasons:
23: 23.5 25: 24.5 28: 26.3
But they seem taller vertically, so probably hold as much air, and thus equally resistant to pinches (and thus able to run at more comfortable lower ~90psi pressure w/out fear of pinch) compared to similarly marked tires. I certainly get a LOT more than 1k miles, and on very dusty gravely roads, and even a lot of dirt stretches. I don't specifically keep track of mileage but if I ride ONLY on dirt/gravel they'd probably go for about 1k miles.
