Tips to Go Green...

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT), [email hidden] said
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Yo, if you really want to know some great ways to go green it takes a
bit of research. (well it did for me)

This seems a bit more pink than green. What does it say about Hormel
Foods, I wonder?

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Yo, if you really want to know some great ways to go green it takes a
bit of research. (well it did for me)

Then, I found this article on squidoo: http://www.squidoo.com/agreenlife
. Wish I had found it before...

Given that the greenest measure, swapping car for bike, is last on the list,
I'm not inclined to give this much credence. But then, it is from the US.

burtthebike said:

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Quoted message said:

Yo, if you really want to know some great ways to go green it takes a
bit of research. (well it did for me)

Then, I found this article on squidoo: http://www.squidoo.com/agreenlife
. Wish I had found it before...

Given that the greenest measure, swapping car for bike, is last on the
list, I'm not inclined to give this much credence. But then, it is from
the US.

At 19 was "Go to a car wash".

Tosspot said:

burtthebike said:

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Quoted message said:

Yo, if you really want to know some great ways to go green it takes a
bit of research. (well it did for me)

Then, I found this article on squidoo: http://www.squidoo.com/agreenlife
. Wish I had found it before...

Given that the greenest measure, swapping car for bike, is last on the
list, I'm not inclined to give this much credence. But then, it is from
the US.

At 19 was "Go to a car wash".

My favourite was, "25. Inflate your Tires - if your tires are inflated at
all times your car will run more miles on less gas".

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Tosspot said:

burtthebike said:

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> Yo, if you really want to know some great ways to go green it takes a
> bit of research. (well it did for me)
>
> Then, I found this article on squidoo:
> http://www.squidoo.com/agreenlife
> . Wish I had found it before...

Given that the greenest measure, swapping car for bike, is last on the
list, I'm not inclined to give this much credence. But then, it is from
the US.

At 19 was "Go to a car wash".

My favourite was, "25. Inflate your Tires - if your tires are inflated at
all times your car will run more miles on less gas".

"22. Play your bills online". I'm guessing this is an invitation to an
online casino!

Quoted message said:

Yo, if you really want to know some great ways to go green it takes a
bit of research. (well it did for me)

Then, I found this article on squidoo: http://www.squidoo.com/agreenlife
. Wish I had found it before...

It's for the USA. Will the advice work in the UK?

Colin Reed said:

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Tosspot said:

burtthebike wrote:
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> <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> Yo, if you really want to know some great ways to go green it takes a
>> bit of research. (well it did for me)
>>
>> Then, I found this article on squidoo:
>> http://www.squidoo.com/agreenlife
>> . Wish I had found it before...
>
> Given that the greenest measure, swapping car for bike, is last on the
> list, I'm not inclined to give this much credence. But then, it is from
> the US.

At 19 was "Go to a car wash".

My favourite was, "25. Inflate your Tires - if your tires are inflated at
all times your car will run more miles on less gas".

"22. Play your bills online". I'm guessing this is an invitation to an
online casino!

One of the things they tell you to do is wash less, which sounds like a
fine idea.

OK, a real green question: does it use less energy to drive 5 miles to
work in the car or to ride the bike there but then have a shower
lasting say 10 minutes (a bit long but not unrealistic).

Ben C said:

Colin Reed said:

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On 2008-06-23, Tosspot <[email hidden]> wrote:
> burtthebike wrote:
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>>> Then, I found this article on squidoo:
>>> http://www.squidoo.com/agreenlife
>>> . Wish I had found it before...
>> Given that the greenest measure, swapping car for bike, is last on the
>> list, I'm not inclined to give this much credence. But then, it is from
>> the US.
> At 19 was "Go to a car wash".
My favourite was, "25. Inflate your Tires - if your tires are inflated at
all times your car will run more miles on less gas".

"22. Play your bills online". I'm guessing this is an invitation to an
online casino!

One of the things they tell you to do is wash less, which sounds like a
fine idea.

OK, a real green question: does it use less energy to drive 5 miles to
work in the car or to ride the bike there but then have a shower
lasting say 10 minutes (a bit long but not unrealistic).

One of my work colleagues has asked me several times why I have a bath
before I leave home, if I then have a shower when I get to work. Saying
I would be far better off just having a shower when I get there.

My company is running an environmental drive at the moment, including
recycling, encouraging people to cycle to work etc. One of the things
they suggested was sharing showers.

Number 2 on the list is not to rinse your dirty plates before putting
them in a dishwasher. Wouldn't hand washing be even better?

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Quoted message said:

Colin Reed said:

Quoted message said:

My favourite was, "25. Inflate your Tires - if your tires are inflated
at
all times your car will run more miles on less gas".

"22. Play your bills online". I'm guessing this is an invitation to an
online casino!

One of the things they tell you to do is wash less, which sounds like a
fine idea.

OK, a real green question: does it use less energy to drive 5 miles to
work in the car or to ride the bike there but then have a shower
lasting say 10 minutes (a bit long but not unrealistic).

But if you're going to shower every day anyway, then showering when you get
to work is neutral, so the driving is just extra energy use.

On 2008-06-23, Martin <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Number 2 on the list is not to rinse your dirty plates before putting
them in a dishwasher. Wouldn't hand washing be even better?

I think that uses quite a bit more water than a dishwasher.

In article said:

One of my work colleagues has asked me several times why I have a bath
before I leave home, if I then have a shower when I get to work. Saying
I would be far better off just having a shower when I get there.

My company is running an environmental drive at the moment, including
recycling, encouraging people to cycle to work etc. One of the things
they suggested was sharing showers.

I'm happy to share a shower at home, but I think sharing showers at work
is taking things too far. In fact given the confined size of our work shower
cubicle I'm not convinced it's physically possible, at least not with two
of the larger cyclists (and I'm one of them).

Even an unshared shower uses a lot less water than a bath though.
Sometimes a long relaxing soak is what you want, but if it's just a question
of getting clean, the shower is better.

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_shower
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/navy_showers_water_conservation.php
(also a useful technique if your work shower has a very slow drain and tends
to overflow if left on full for long, though ours has been fixed now)

burtthebike said:

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Colin Reed said:

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> My favourite was, "25. Inflate your Tires - if your tires are inflated
> at
> all times your car will run more miles on less gas".

"22. Play your bills online". I'm guessing this is an invitation to an
online casino!

One of the things they tell you to do is wash less, which sounds like a
fine idea.

OK, a real green question: does it use less energy to drive 5 miles to
work in the car or to ride the bike there but then have a shower
lasting say 10 minutes (a bit long but not unrealistic).

But if you're going to shower every day anyway, then showering when you get
to work is neutral, so the driving is just extra energy use.

I wonder how many workplaces have a shower? Mine doesn't now. The
management decided to convert it to a store cupboard :-(

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Alan Braggins said:

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_shower

That's what I'd call a "shower", no need for any additional description.
Why would you want to spend longer in the shower than it takes to get
clean (unless it's a cool shower on a hot day), or keep the water
running when it's not actually needed (unless ditto)?

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On 2008-06-23, Martin <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Quoted message said:

Number 2 on the list is not to rinse your dirty plates before putting
them in a dishwasher. Wouldn't hand washing be even better?

I think that uses quite a bit more water than a dishwasher.

There was some research on this, but I recall that it was done by the
dishwasher company and compared their most water efficient model with
someone who filled a new bowl for every cup.

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burtthebike said:

But if you're going to shower every day anyway, then showering when you
get
to work is neutral, so the driving is just extra energy use.

I wonder how many workplaces have a shower? Mine doesn't now. The
management decided to convert it to a store cupboard :-(

Shoot them in the most painful, slow way imaginable. Idiots like that
shouldn't be allowed to pass on their genes, they're polluting the gene
pool.

Danny Colyer said:

Alan Braggins said:

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_shower

That's what I'd call a "shower", no need for any additional description.
Why would you want to spend longer in the shower than it takes to get
clean (unless it's a cool shower on a hot day), or keep the water
running when it's not actually needed (unless ditto)?

It is fine if you get your hot water from a tank, but if it comes from a
combi boiler each time you turn it on you have to wait for the hot water
to come through. Yes, I know that there will still be hot water in the
pipe from the first use, but right in the middle of rinsing off you will
find the block of cold water will reach the shower.

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Mark said:

I wonder how many workplaces have a shower? Mine doesn't now. The
management decided to convert it to a store cupboard :-(

When we relocated (about 18 months ago) we turned one of the toilets
into a locker room with clothes hanging space, a changing cubicle and
a shower, and made the other one on that floor unisex.

We also turned the wine cellar (though it was actually on the second
floor, so I'm not sure cellar is exactly the right term) into a filing
room.

Unfortunately, I couldn't persuade the executive director running the
project to convert any car parking spaces into bike rack spaces, but
that will come.

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burtthebike said:

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Quoted message said:

Yo, if you really want to know some great ways to go green it takes a
bit of research. (well it did for me)

Then, I found this article on squidoo: http://www.squidoo.com/agreenlife
. Wish I had found it before...

Given that the greenest measure, swapping car for bike, is last on the
list, I'm not inclined to give this much credence. But then, it is from
the US.

At 19 was "Go to a car wash".

Why is that more efficient than hand washing? I use about two buckets of
water to wash mine. I find it hard to believe that a car wash uses less than
that.

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On 2008-06-23, Martin <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Quoted message said:

Number 2 on the list is not to rinse your dirty plates before putting
them in a dishwasher. Wouldn't hand washing be even better?

I think that uses quite a bit more water than a dishwasher.

I find it hard to believe that a dishwasher uses less water than filling the
sink up.