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  1. As the petrol *tipping point* of $1.40+ litre looms, I have been wondering about a list that could be quickly reeled off as advice for those starting to commute to work.

    Either a top five or even a top ten. I thought about behaviour including being predictable, assertive etc. But as one rather aggressive cyclist in Thornbury on Saturday arvo illustrated to me, (and everyone else watching), being assertive and not knowing any basic road skills certainly isn't a good look. Neither is it good public relations for cycling.

    - You are legally a road vehicle;

    - Behave in a predictable way, ie: hold your line while in traffic;

    - Keep at least one meter from parked cars, don't be forced into the gutter;

    - Follow all traffic signals & stop for red lights, including ped lights;

    - Keep a reasonable speed on shared offroad bikepaths, stick to the left, slow on all corners and say "passing" when indeed passing another path user;

    - Curb your aggression, be polite, acknowledge other road users;

    - Switch your lights on at dusk. If you haven't front & rear lights, get them promptly;

    - Get appropriate cycling clothes/rain jacket and footwear. It may look funny to you but it's been designed for cycling. Saves your work clothes, and if you commute a shorter distance you can wear what you want.

    - Wear a helmet, on your head, not on the handlebars. It's the law and internerd h*lm*t arguments are useless when you're about to be fined by the police.

    - Be nice. Or something that approaches that form of behaviour for you.

    Ok I'm rambling and haven't had a coffee yet. All contributions welcome except for boxtards. All I'm thinking of is a nifty list that we can all easier use at the lights & at work for newbies.

  2. cfsmtb wrote:

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    I'm looking at doing a "reduced risk road riding" DVD/video in the next
    12 months, and some of the overriding concepts I'm wanting to
    illustrate are, in no particular order as yet :

    Be predictable
    Observe and anticipate
    Be visable
    Use road space for your safety - occupy lanes when necessary
    (roundabouts, turning lanes etc)
    Self control and courtesy
    Plan your route to reduce your risk
    Know your rights and know your responsibilities

  3. Bleve said:


    I'm looking at doing a "reduced risk road riding" DVD/video in the next
    12 months, and some of the overriding concepts I'm wanting to
    illustrate are, in no particular order as yet :

    Be predictable
    Observe and anticipate
    Be visable
    Use road space for your safety - occupy lanes when necessary
    (roundabouts, turning lanes etc)
    Self control and courtesy
    Plan your route to reduce your risk
    Know your rights and know your responsibilities

    The order could be more logical, oh hang on. you did mention 'no particular order..."
    anyway the (imho better order)...

    Plan your route to reduce your risk
    Know your rights and know your responsibilities
    Be visable
    Be predictable
    Observe and anticipate
    Use road space for your safety - occupy lanes when necessary
    (roundabouts, turning lanes etc)
    Self control and courtesy

  4. Possibly the biggest (i find) hurdle to getting non-riders to even consider riding is to get them to understand they should NOT (necessarily) think about getting from A-to-B in the same way they would in a car!

    IE when you drive a car you tend to mentally map out a route according to main roads or speed available.
    On a bike it's far more likely to be fro ma perspective of safety.
    Sometimes these 2 approaches 'may' involve the same roads, but likely not
    (and of course avoiding hills! 😄)

    Some great stuff here:
    bicyclinglife.comcommuteguide.htm
    (take or leave vehicular cycling recommendations as you see fit...)

    Not sure about the "Keep a reasonable speed on shared offroad bikepaths".
    Or did you mean 'Keep down to...' ??

    clothing may/may not also be an initial consideration. phase 2(+) perhaps??

    Oh... and FFS tell em to change DOWN some gears, will you?!?!?!?

  5. I agree with the route mapping stuff, and would add that what works
    going may not be as good coming back. eg. I would happily ride down the
    cutting near the yarra on victoria st but would do my best to avoid
    riding up it (out of the city) at peak hour.

    My problem when I get in a car I try to drive the way I would ride!
    That's fine until you forget about the shared paths etc.

  6. PiledHigher said:

    I agree with the route mapping stuff, and would add that what works
    going may not be as good coming back. eg. I would happily ride down the
    cutting near the yarra on victoria st but would do my best to avoid
    riding up it (out of the city) at peak hour.

    My problem when I get in a car I try to drive the way I would ride!
    That's fine until you forget about the shared paths etc.

    And when you go to Vermont from the city, via Mt Eliza 🙂

  7. flyingdutch said:


    Not sure about the "Keep a reasonable speed on shared offroad bikepaths".
    Or did you mean 'Keep down to...' ??

    Yeah, you're right on that one. I've been hearing nasty stuff about cyclist headons on offroad bikepaths - ribs & collarbones are one thing but fecking broken legs?!? WTF?!?! Seriously tho, this issue came up at the last Yarra Council Bicycle Advisory Committee meeting, hopefully there will be further suggestions and followup.

    flyingdutch said:


    clothing may/may not also be an initial consideration. phase 2(+) perhaps??

    I believe clothing is important, an appropriate choice can sometimes make or break a persons enjoyments of returning to commuting.

    flyingdutch said:


    Oh... and FFS tell em to change DOWN some gears, will you?!?!?!?

    Spin not churn. Think that stage develops later. Oh, and if you see Jan, tell him it's about time he learnt to spin. 😄

  8. In aus.bicycle on Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:16:11 +1000

    flyingdutch said:


    Plan your route to reduce your risk
    Know your rights and know your responsibilities
    Be visable
    Be predictable
    Observe and anticipate
    Use road space for your safety - occupy lanes when necessary
    (roundabouts, turning lanes etc)
    Self control and courtesy

    All very nice, but all very motherhood too.

    After all, do you really think your new commuter says to themselves as
    they head to work "today I'm going to be blind, I won't anticipate,
    I'll [censored] everyone off, and I'll have no self control! Oh, and I'll
    make sure they can't see me too!"

    The only really usable - as in "what to do" - statement is the "use
    road space for your safety" one, and I think that was expressed a bit
    better in the original post, because it gave a novice an idea of what
    it meant by using an example.

    Every statement has to be accompanied by an example. By somethign
    that shows what it means, by a common error.

    For example "be predictable - don't weave over the road, don't dart in
    and out of traffic, give handsignals in plenty of time, obey the
    traffic laws. A car that knows what you will do is a car that won't
    hit you."

    OK, that last it poetic licence, but you see what I mean.

    If you are an experienced commuter, you know what all that means. If
    you aren't you need examples and reasons.

    The things you talk about are all the things that car drivers are
    supposed to know.... but do they? Repeating them to bike riders
    isn't useful unless it's usable info, not platitudes.

    THe platitudes will be forgotten, the useful examples and reasons will
    be remembered.

    If you have to get them on little cards, make lots of little cards!

    Zebee

  9. Zebee Johnstone said:

    In aus.bicycle on Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:16:11 +1000

    flyingdutch said:


    Plan your route to reduce your risk
    Know your rights and know your responsibilities
    Be visable
    Be predictable
    Observe and anticipate
    Use road space for your safety - occupy lanes when necessary
    (roundabouts, turning lanes etc)
    Self control and courtesy

    All very nice, but all very motherhood too.

    After all, do you really think your new commuter says to themselves as
    they head to work "today I'm going to be blind, I won't anticipate,
    I'll [censored] everyone off, and I'll have no self control! Oh, and I'll
    make sure they can't see me too!"

    The only really usable - as in "what to do" - statement is the "use
    road space for your safety" one, and I think that was expressed a bit
    better in the original post, because it gave a novice an idea of what
    it meant by using an example.

    Every statement has to be accompanied by an example. By somethign
    that shows what it means, by a common error.

    Of course. The above is conceptual. I'm hoping to put together a DVD
    or something that illustrates all this stuff (modeled roughly on
    motorcycling safe riding stuff, but more bicycle orientated)

  10. I have been commuting to work by bicycle for about 15 years now. Sure,
    90% of car drivers are very good. But if you actually want to survive
    commuter riding, then there is only one rule you need:

    Every car on the road is trying to kill you. Now.

  11. Zebee Johnstone said:

    If you have to get them on little cards, make lots of little cards!

    Zebee

    That little pamphlett in circulation around town is a good start for small carriable info .

    Not sure how it is circulated but Ive seen it at the city bike shops and some bike related retailers ( Crumpler ).

    The BUGs are a good starting point, obviously can't cover all commuters, but I guess apart from the obvious points set out up top by most contributors, there is a vital fundamental :

    * Bike is in good order, and roadworthy condition for commuting *

    my basic list is:-

    • brakes work and dont grab
    • tires are suitable and properly inflated
    • lights all work
    • horn is loud and works (air horn recommended as others generally can't be heard through a cagers shut windows)
    • high vis markers on rider somewhere (jacket, helmet)
    • ride in a group if possible, mass with other riders for higher visibility
    • chose well used bike routes were cyclists are more common
    • avoid dangerous sites ( eg: City Road under St Kilda Road)
    • stop at red lights
    • don't listen to headphones or use a phone on the move
    • wear the right clothing to be warm , dry and flexible
    • don't overload.
    • Be visible
    • take the lane
    • be courteous
    • make eye contact , & lastly
    • don't take [censored], report offenders to police and www.idiotdriver.com.au

    I dont know if there is one, but something that makes sense ( commercial too) is a roadshow type service that goes from corporate to department to institution to expound cycling safety for commuting employees and how to form a BUG, hold maintenance and skills courses and generally raise awareness on the sound benefits to the entity of employees riding to work for health,happiness and a better workplace...and the entity shows it is a good corp. citizen at the same time...win win. BV's RTW day is a start, but it stops short, needs to be a pro-active service which corps see benefit of to them (& will pay towards and low cost on percapita with huge return and added value to their employee involvement/satisfaction/retention cycle.)

    back to a quiet corner with a book, pot of cha and few Monte Carlos from the fridge ...

    Roo 🙂

  12. rooman said:

    I dont know if there is one, but something that makes sense ( commercial too) is a roadshow type service that goes from corporate to department to institution to expound cycling safety for commuting employees and how to form a BUG, hold maintenance and skills courses and generally raise awareness on the sound benefits to the entity of employees riding to work for health,happiness and a better workplace...and the entity shows it is a good corp. citizen at the same time...win win. BV's RTW day is a start, but it stops short, needs to be a pro-active service which corps see benefit of to them (& will pay towards and low cost on percapita with huge return and added value to their employee involvement/satisfaction/retention cycle.)

    it does indeed. Heidi Marfutt at BV runs these workshops, as do TravelSmart. WorkplaceBUGs are far outstripping other growth areas known to BV over the last 18months...
    FD

  13. Don’t ride around with your V-brake disengaged, see a bike shop if you have problems. Adjust your ‘bars & levers so you don’t get impaled on them in a slight off.
    Pump up your tyres, lube your chain, carry a puncture kit & pump.
    Don’t wobble when you’re out on the road with traffic, even going up hills. Use a lower gear.
    Gauge your route before you ride. Some roads do not allow cyclists. Some roads are very bad for cyclists. Take advantage of bike paths, dead end streets, roads with bike lanes & roads with shallow gradients to enhance your commuting experience. Sometimes the indirect route may be the best for you.
    It’s good to have a change of clothes, riding bikes can be a sweaty & dirty experience.
    Be considerate with ‘parking’/storing your bike at work/public places. Some footpaths are negotiated by people in wheelchairs and prams. Stinky gear might also be unsightly.
    Keep left wherever possible on paths/off roads.
    Slow down around pedestrians & dogs.
    Wearing a helmet is cool. [Even on public transport.]
    Most cars are unsure where you are going & what you are doing. Tell the world if you want to turn/stop/do a skid.
    Look behind you before you change direction or move about the lanes out on the roads.
    Bicycle brakes are [censored], even MTB hydraulic disks, don’t wheel suck a Linfox.

  14. In article <>, cfsmtb <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    As the petrol *tipping point* of $1.40+ litre looms, I have been
    wondering about a list that could be quickly reeled off as advice for
    those starting to commute to work.
    ...
    All contributions welcome ...
    All I'm thinking of is a nifty list that we can all easier use at the lights & at work for newbies.

    If they know little about commuting, I expect they know little about
    bikes. Therefore:
    * They should take the bike to a bike shop & get it serviced
    If bike shop won't service it, that indicates the bike is [censored] and
    won't last for commuting. (rule-of-thumb generalisation)
    * If they're buying a new bike, tell them to go to a bike shop, with
    $600 (my guess), and ask for a commuter. They should come out with a
    modest bike + lights + helmet + (perhaps) some way of carrying stuff
    (clothes, spare tube, etc).
    * If someone is asking you (an a.b reader), then you would know a good
    bike shop to send them to.

    Another item:
    * Get them to do a trial ride on the weekend.
    This will let them test their chosen route for time & comfort.

    Other ideas suggested by other posters mostly seem pretty good.

    HTH.
    --
    K.A. Moylan
    Ski Club http://www.cccsc.asn.au
    [email hidden]

  15. flyingdutch said:

    Possibly the biggest (i find) hurdle to getting non-riders to even
    consider riding is to get them to understand they should NOT
    (necessarily) think about getting from A-to-B in the same way they
    would in a car!

    My route by bike is nearly 4km less than my route by car, because I
    don't need to stick with the fast highways.

    Travis

  16. "AndrewJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have been commuting to work by bicycle for about 15 years now. Sure,
    90% of car drivers are very good. But if you actually want to survive
    commuter riding, then there is only one rule you need:

    Every car on the road is trying to kill you. Now.

    Most drivers arent of course. Its not that bad out there. But if it helps
    to keep you alert its maybe useful.

    To cheer up new commuters point them at Wardlaw's Steps to a Better Cycling
    Future, http://www.bicyclinglife.com/Library/SteppingStones.htm, which says
    the relative risks of cycling are small and you have to cycle about a
    million km before your no. is up, statistically speaking, and the more
    cyclists there are the lower the risks.

    I'd give new commuters some useful info on likely collision types, e.g.
    http://www.toronto.ca/cycling/map/car_bike_collisions.htm , which suggests
    the main risks are at intersections, particularly oncoming right turners,
    and red light or stop sign runners on the cross streets, not being run over
    from behind as most new cyclists seem to fear.

    BV put out a study on types of accident too. It said rear end collisions
    from motorists not seeing cyclists, or not judging the passing properly, and
    maybe including left swipes as well, it wasnt clear, were significant in
    Victoria, but other studies elsewhere dispute this (see endless debates on
    this on the LAB talk list in US). You have to believe that nearly all
    motorists nearly all the time keep a good watch on things directly in front
    of them, otherwise you wouldn't leave home on a bike or in a car. However,
    rear end collisions do occur and are often severe, but more often on country
    roads and at night/early morning, not on a daylight commute.

    fb

  17. In aus.bicycle on 23 Apr 2006 22:11:36 -0700

    Bleve said:


    Of course. The above is conceptual. I'm hoping to put together a DVD
    or something that illustrates all this stuff (modeled roughly on
    motorcycling safe riding stuff, but more bicycle orientated)

    Perhaps if you start from the idea that they are already car drivers.

    So there's things they know, like how to read what a car is doing, and
    things they think they know, like selecting a route, and sitting in a
    lane.

    I don't really know what car drivers think when they get on a bicycle,
    I haven't driven a car exclusively for over 20 years. But if I
    guessed I would say the main differences would be:

    - selecting a route. Whoever mentioned that was right on the button.
    When I first looked at commuting by bicycle this time round I had
    completely forgotten what I'd learned about cycle commuting and was
    planning to more or less take the same route I took on the motorbike.

    - dealing with traffic when you aren't in a tank. The most
    frightening thing for new riders is the feeling of vulnerability.
    This is what makes them hug the gutter, that and their memory of being
    [censored] at cyclists who didn't.... So how to overcome that? How
    to get them to feel safe taking the lane, and how to get them to feel
    it is OK to get in the way?

    - right hand turns. If you aren't Victorian you don't know about hook
    turns 🙂 And drivers might not think of them, they may think of
    hook turns as something you do when there's a sign telling you to.

    - how much hard work it is. SOmeone who hasn't been on a pushbike is
    quite likely to find themselves tired and sore. (Unless they have
    the sense to buy a recumbent of course, then they will just be tired.)
    How many km should they do a week when starting?

    - how to climb hills. maybe encourage them to get a cadence computer,
    so they can really see what they are doing. It's easy to think you
    are spinning when you aren't when you are new! And of course all
    novices prefer to mash big gears, illustrating how much easier it is
    to climb hills by spinning is probably a good thing.

    - road surface dangers. Most car drivers don't really think of things
    that are specifially dangerous to 2 wheelers. They probably realise
    potholes are bad news, because they don't like them in a car either.
    but what about sand, oil, metal plates, and raised bits of road that
    can unstick your tyres or jolt you? There was a study done ages ago
    (meaning I can't recall anything about it bar the conclusion) that
    said, amongst other things, that motorcyclists tended to be watching
    the road surface close to them far more often and for longer than car
    drivers did. Because they were more aware of road surface dangers.

    - cycle-specific traffic problems. Car doors of course. Peds who
    can't hear you. Right turners who turn across stopped traffic and
    don't expect you. Left turners who turn across you after passing you.
    Things that don't happen to cars, and so car drivers won't be
    expecting them. Might be good to mention things that don't happen
    often to cars but do to 2 wheelers, such as people turning right
    across your path at an intersection because they don't see you.

    (The trick with the road danger thing is not to scare them off!)

    I reckon your best bet is to see if you can spot newbie commuters and
    ask them what they've had problems with. They are going to know a lot
    more than experienced cyclists about what problems car drivers turned
    cyclists face, because they experience them right now, and memory
    plays tricks.

    I don't think saying "courtesy" is useful, because few people think
    "I'm going to be rude", they may behave badly but they do it for
    reasons that are good to them. They probably know what bad behavious
    is in cyclists, they no doubt curse it lots when in their car. The
    trick is to get them to realise what's bad and what's safe.

    Zebee

  18. In aus.bicycle on Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:06:05 +1000

    cfsmtb said:


    flyingdutch said:


    Not sure about the "Keep a reasonable speed on shared offroad
    bikepaths".
    Or did you mean 'Keep down to...' ??

    Yeah, you're right on that one. I've been hearing nasty stuff about
    cyclist headons on offroad bikepaths - ribs & collarbones are one thing
    but fecking broken legs?!? WTF?!?! Seriously tho, this issue came up at

    heh. the cyclist who headons me will be chopped to bits by the bent's
    chainring.... Broken leg would be the least of it!

    That said, I doubt it needs speed to break a leg in a cycle/cycle
    crash. All it would take is a leg caught where it can get cracked
    between frames.

    Not to mention I was once in casualty at RAH when someone was brought
    in Drunk And Fell Over - she had broken her leg getting out of a taxi.

    Zebee

  19. In aus.bicycle on 23 Apr 2006 22:29:35 -0700

    AndrewJ said:

    I have been commuting to work by bicycle for about 15 years now. Sure,
    90% of car drivers are very good. But if you actually want to survive
    commuter riding, then there is only one rule you need:

    Every car on the road is trying to kill you. Now.

    If they were, you'd be dead. So I don't see it as a useful way to
    think.

    On the other hand "every driver is focused on getting where they need
    to go and out of this boring cage they are forced to be in, so they
    aren't paying much attention to what's around them and will do what
    they need to do to get where they are going" is more helpful to
    predict behaviour.

    Zebee

  20. Zebee Johnstone said:


    - right hand turns. If you aren't Victorian you don't know about hook
    turns 🙂 And drivers might not think of them, they may think of
    hook turns as something you do when there's a sign telling you to.

    The other side of hook turns is being a cyclist going straight ahead to the right of cars waiting to do a hook turn. One of these cars honked at me and gave unfriendly gestures because I was blocking him in the intersection after the lights had changed. Clearly thinking "bloody cyclists", a law unto themselves. Unfortunately he didn't see what really happened.

    I entered the intersection on green. When the lights turned to amber, the lead car doing a hook turn started moving (too early, before the lights had changed). I was forced to stop in the middle of the intersection while he completed his hook turn. The second car then finds that a cyclist has entered the intersection and is blocking him from doing a hook turn. It's all the cyclist's fault!

    Yes, education needed about hook turns. I do find them useful at some intersections.

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