Time/sustain release multi's- opinons and info needed

Jacob said:

Any comments and information/sources on time-release or sustained
release multi-vitamins/minerals would be appreciated.

Time release Vitamins such as NIACIN are a good Idea. The exact
Science
of vitamins is unfortunaltely an OBSCURE item. I have studied it
for many
years and I feel I have a good "handle" on it!

Vitamins are related to weight but an be generalised. Vit C is
MASTER in
"catalysing category" and 250 mg per hr is recommended as a
minimum.

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It IN-TURN Catalyses all other vitamins and minerals in an exacting

way: SIC:
Vit C is the MASTER catalyst as stated, witout it neitehr Vit E
nor Minerals may
be used properly in the body and simply pass thru the back door
without being utilised.
The proper sequence is as follows: C catalyses E which in turn
in combination catalyses
Minerals with the help of Vit B6. All other "B" vitamins MAY be
used alone as they are
specific to the endocrines systems. (thsi is WHY a MULTI Vitamin
is better than using
individual vitamins...HOWEVER...the multi's FALL FAR SHORT of
even minimum
requirements..as in: 50 mg of C is rediculous when at least 250
mg per hour is required!
If you are a smoker, (GOD FORBID!!) Each nasty ciggy requires 50
mg for each one in
addition to the minimums.
The amount of Vit recommended for mimimum health is 450 units
thrice daily at 6 to 8 hr > intervals..It MUST have :C: to be
utilized however. These TWo together are REQUIRED to > make
MINERALSusable and NOT just pass thougn like a train in the night!

B Complex is sued by the endocrne systems..and even though C is
NOT required for them.
It's still a good IDEA. I hope this clears up any confusion in
general Here's to an HEALTHY
Life...and obeying the rules where FOOD is concerned also. A lot
of foods do belong > > together SUch as starch and
meats...making an hamburger DEADLY and about as health as >
Arsenic. Starch OR Meats go with veggies..but STARCH AND MEAT kill
eachother.
These are simple guidelines and anyone who steps outside them is
asking for trouble...it
appears, from indications. That includes about 90% or more of the
entirre Human race who > are' minimally educated. This post is but
a START in that direction, B-0b1

In article <[email hidden]>,

Robert McCarty said:

Jacob said:

Any comments and information/sources on time-release or sustained
release multi-vitamins/minerals would be appreciated.

Time release Vitamins such as NIACIN are a good Idea.

If I remember right, according to Steve Harris, time-release niacin is
a really *bad* idea.

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The exact Science of vitamins is unfortunaltely an OBSCURE item. I
have studied it for many years and I feel I have a good "handle" on it!

Vitamins are related to weight but an be generalised. Vit C is
MASTER in "catalysing category" and 250 mg per hr is recommended as a
minimum.

Let's see, that'd be 6 g/day. Most people can handle that much, but
it's an awful lot.

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It IN-TURN Catalyses all other vitamins and minerals in an exacting

way: SIC: Vit C is the MASTER catalyst as stated, witout it neitehr
Vit E nor Minerals may be used properly in the body and simply pass

thru the back door without being utilised.

You forgot to mention vitamins A, B (all of them), D, and K. Surely
we should be "catalysing" all of them also.

<remaining lunacy deleted>

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Jacob said:

Any comments and information/sources on time-release or sustained
release multi-vitamins/minerals would be appreciated.

Jacob...As long as the BALANCE of needed Vitamins ( C-E-B-Min's)
are correct and meet realistic intake ( RDA is too low) ...you
should be fine.
I use time release NIACIN to control HGH/HDL chemistry.
I suggest some research on your part! Dr. B-0b1 ph.D

(Jacob) said:

Any comments and information/sources on time-release or sustained
release multi-vitamins/minerals would be appreciated.

Totally not needed. Your body has plenty of them floating around
in the bloodstream, ready for use. It's not necessary to have
them continually being absorbed.

Tsu Dho Nimh

--
When businesses invoke the "protection of consumers," it's a lot like
politicians invoking morality and children - grab your wallet and/or
your kid and run for your life.

Thanks guys...Robert- that was interesting to read! What about a
multiple vitamin/mineral product that is time released though? Here
are 2 examples- am curious what you thought of them being time(d) or
sustain(ed) released. I'm not really asking if they are good
products...just what you think about what's in them and it all being
time released. And just what you think about such products in general.
Do they make sense? Any problems with them?

Vitamin A (as beta carotene) 10000 IU
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) 500 mg
Vitamin B-1 (as thiamine HCl) 30 mg
Vitamin B-2 (as riboflavin) 100 mg
Niacin (as niacinamide) 30 mg
Vitamin B-6 (as pyridoxine HCl) 100 mg
Folate (as folic acid) 400 mcg
Biotin 2000 mcg
Pantothenic Acid (as calcium pantothenate) 500 mg
Zinc (as amino acid chelate) 5 mg
Inositol 500 mg
Choline (as bitartrate) 210 mg
PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid) 100 mg L-Cysteine (free form amino acid)
100 mg

and the other is:

Vitamin A (as retinyl palmitate) 5,000 I.U.
100%
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid, rose hips) 200 mg
333%
Vitamin E (as d-alpha tocophyryl acid succinate) 50 I.U. 167%
Thiamin (vitamin B-1)(as thiamine HCI) 30 mg 2,000%
Riboflavin (vitamin B-2) 50 mg 2,941%
Niacin (as niacinamide) 50 mg 2,941%
Vitamin B-6 (as pyridoxine HCI) 50 mg 2,500%
Folic Acid 400
mcg 100%
Vitamin B-12 (as cyanocobalamin) 50 mcg 833%
d-Biotin
2,000 mcg 667%
Pantothenic Acid (as d-calcium pantothenate) 50 mg 500%
Calcium (as calcium carbonate) 200 mg
20%
Iodine (as kelp) 225 mcg
150%
Zinc (as zinc amino acid chelate) 15 mg
100%
Selenium (as selenium amino acid chelate) 50 mcg
71%
Copper (as copper amino acid chelate) 1 mg
50%
MSM (methylsulfonylmethane) 600 mg *
L-Methionine (free form) 250 mg *
Canola Fatty Acid Complex (source of 200 mg *
unsaturated fatty acids, linolenic & oleic acids)
Horsetail Extract 2:1 (leaf/stem) 100 mg *
L-Cysteine (as L-cysteine HCI) 100 mg *
Inositol 50 mg *
PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid) 50 mg *
Choline (from 50 mg choline bitartrate) 23 mg *

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Robert McCarty said:

Jacob said:

Any comments and information/sources on time-release or sustained
release multi-vitamins/minerals would be appreciated.

Time release Vitamins such as NIACIN are a good Idea.

If I remember right, according to Steve Harris, time-release niacin is
a really *bad* idea.

Quoted message said:

The exact Science of vitamins is unfortunaltely an OBSCURE item. I
have studied it for many years and I feel I have a good "handle" on it!

Vitamins are related to weight but an be generalised. Vit C is
MASTER in "catalysing category" and 250 mg per hr is recommended as a
minimum.

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From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
Date: 9/18/2003 11:57 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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<remaining lunacy deleted>

It's catching,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Subject: Re: Time/sustain release multi's- opinons and info needed
From: Tsu Dho Nimh [email hidden]
Date: 9/18/2003 4:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

(Jacob) said:

Any comments and information/sources on time-release or sustained
release multi-vitamins/minerals would be appreciated.

Totally not needed. Your body has plenty of them floating around
in the bloodstream, ready for use. It's not necessary to have
them continually being absorbed.

YEAH, Have another dose of Ritalin.

In said:

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From: Tsu Dho Nimh [email hidden]
Date: 9/18/2003 4:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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Totally not needed. Your body has plenty of them floating around
in the bloodstream, ready for use. It's not necessary to have
them continually being absorbed.

YEAH, Have another dose of Ritalin.

In <[email hidden]>, Jan wrote:

# Translation, I know you are right, so I'll divert to another subject.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Jacob said:

Thanks guys...Robert- that was interesting to read! What about a
multiple vitamin/mineral product that is time released though? Here
are 2 examples- am curious what you thought of them being time(d) or
sustain(ed) released. I'm not really asking if they are good
products...just what you think about what's in them and it all being
time released. And just what you think about such products in general.
Do they make sense? Any problems with them?

Vitamin A (as beta carotene) 10000 IU
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) 500 mg
Vitamin B-1 (as thiamine HCl) 30 mg
Vitamin B-2 (as riboflavin) 100 mg
Niacin (as niacinamide) 30 mg
Vitamin B-6 (as pyridoxine HCl) 100 mg

That's a LOT of B-6. If I recall correctly, about 50 times the RDA.
I would not be comfortable with that much. Way too much niacin, too,
and it's in a form that won't help with cholesterol anyway.

Most of the others look reasonable, though. The other one was over
100% of the RDA for iodine; going over the RDA for minerals isn't
usually a great idea.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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Subject: Re: Time/sustain release multi's- opinons and info needed
From: Tsu Dho Nimh [email hidden]
Date: 9/18/2003 4:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
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(Jacob) said:

Any comments and information/sources on time-release or sustained
release multi-vitamins/minerals would be appreciated.

Totally not needed. Your body has plenty of them floating around
in the bloodstream, ready for use. It's not necessary to have
them continually being absorbed.

YEAH, Have another dose of Ritalin.

Jan, pay attention!

This thread is NOT about Ritalin (which would help your attentional
problems) nor is it about Jan. However, if you keep it up, it can become
about Jan real quick.

Hi
For cheapness, I'd go for a decent 100% RDA multivitamin and ramp up the
relevant ones you need to mega dose.
Or.. you could go natural and start juicing and get them in the ratios
nature intended....
Anth

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Any comments and information/sources on time-release or sustained
release multi-vitamins/minerals would be appreciated.