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  1. I hurt myself doing military press with dumbbells on Wednesday. It was with
    heavy enough weights that I was only able to do 2 reps. The first one went
    fine but I really had to force the second rep and I think I arched backward
    too much. I definitelyt felt a slight strain just below my rib cage and
    there is a little tightness in my sternum area.

    Does this sound like anything serious? My biggest fear would be a hernia of
    some sort but hopefully its not one as it doesnt hurt much and there wasnt
    any tearing sounds or anything like that. Could I have just strained a
    muscle or maybe pulled a small muscle under the rib cage? Anyone have
    anything simmilar happen while doing military press?

  2. I have pulled muscles in my upper back many times doing pulldowns and
    dumbeel presses behind the head. I fell the strain from my back and
    tensing/throbbing around to my rib cage and sternum. It usually takes
    3-4 days to feel better and then I take a week of moderate weight
    before pushing it again. I have had no longterm problems because of it
    though.

    Tony Kehl
    Developing Fitness Programs for Individuals
    [email hidden]
    www.simplefitness.biz

  3. Paul 'Mr.Wonderful' Orndorff said:

    I hurt myself doing military press with dumbbells on Wednesday. It was with
    heavy enough weights that I was only able to do 2 reps. The first one went
    fine but I really had to force the second rep and I think I arched backward
    too much. I definitelyt felt a slight strain just below my rib cage and
    there is a little tightness in my sternum area.

    Does this sound like anything serious?

    It's probably a toomah. Or an alien. Don't eat salad with Sigourney
    Weaver and you should be safe.

    Quoted message said:

    My biggest fear would be a hernia of
    some sort but hopefully its not one as it doesnt hurt much and there wasnt
    any tearing sounds or anything like that. Could I have just strained a
    muscle or maybe pulled a small muscle under the rib cage?

    No. That would be a common and obvious thing. That NEVER **EVER**
    happens. It's far more likely to be a toomah.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have
    anything simmilar happen while doing military press?

    Yes. They rested and allowed themselves time to heal before doing heavy
    overhead presses again and their toomahs went away. One did eat salad
    with Sigourney Weaver and ended up in a scene from a late 70's movie.

    --
    spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

    I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
    neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
    hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
    marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
    transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
    http://www.abmdr.org.au/
    http://www.marrow.org/

  4. "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul 'Mr.Wonderful' Orndorff said:

    I hurt myself doing military press with dumbbells on Wednesday. It was
    with heavy enough weights that I was only able to do 2 reps. The first
    one went fine but I really had to force the second rep and I think I
    arched backward too much. I definitelyt felt a slight strain just below
    my rib cage and there is a little tightness in my sternum area.

    Does this sound like anything serious?

    It's probably a toomah. Or an alien. Don't eat salad with Sigourney Weaver
    and you should be safe.

    Quoted message said:

    My biggest fear would be a hernia of some sort but hopefully its not one
    as it doesnt hurt much and there wasnt any tearing sounds or anything
    like that. Could I have just strained a muscle or maybe pulled a small
    muscle under the rib cage?

    No. That would be a common and obvious thing. That NEVER **EVER** happens.
    It's far more likely to be a toomah.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have anything simmilar happen while doing military press?

    Yes. They rested and allowed themselves time to heal before doing heavy
    overhead presses again and their toomahs went away. One did eat salad with
    Sigourney Weaver and ended up in a scene from a late 70's movie.

    --
    spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

    I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
    neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
    hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
    marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
    transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
    http://www.abmdr.org.au/
    http://www.marrow.org/

    Ummm... thanks, I guess.

  5. Paul 'Mr.Wonderful' Orndorff said:

    "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul 'Mr.Wonderful' Orndorff said:

    I hurt myself doing military press with dumbbells on Wednesday. It was
    with heavy enough weights that I was only able to do 2 reps. The first
    one went fine but I really had to force the second rep and I think I
    arched backward too much. I definitelyt felt a slight strain just below
    my rib cage and there is a little tightness in my sternum area.

    Does this sound like anything serious?

    It's probably a toomah. Or an alien. Don't eat salad with Sigourney Weaver
    and you should be safe.

    Quoted message said:

    My biggest fear would be a hernia of some sort but hopefully its not one
    as it doesnt hurt much and there wasnt any tearing sounds or anything
    like that. Could I have just strained a muscle or maybe pulled a small
    muscle under the rib cage?

    No. That would be a common and obvious thing. That NEVER **EVER** happens.
    It's far more likely to be a toomah.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have anything simmilar happen while doing military press?

    Yes. They rested and allowed themselves time to heal before doing heavy
    overhead presses again and their toomahs went away. One did eat salad with
    Sigourney Weaver and ended up in a scene from a late 70's movie.

    Ummm... thanks, I guess.

    Sorry, it's an MFW tradition :-) Noone here can do anything more than
    speculate as to what's wrong. I mean, it could be an aortic aneurism
    about to burst for all we know. Then again, it's probably just a pulled
    muscle or a sprained rib joint (where it meets the sternum). Doing
    maximum singles (that second rep doesn't count because you broke form,
    and hence got injured) isn't such a good idea unless it's a planned part
    of your training program. I both agree and disagree with that last
    statement.

    Cheers,

    Ari

    --
    spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

    I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
    neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
    hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
    marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
    transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
    http://www.abmdr.org.au/
    http://www.marrow.org/

  6. "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul 'Mr.Wonderful' Orndorff said:

    "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:

    >I hurt myself doing military press with dumbbells on Wednesday. It was
    >with heavy enough weights that I was only able to do 2 reps. The first
    >one went fine but I really had to force the second rep and I think I
    >arched backward too much. I definitelyt felt a slight strain just below
    >my rib cage and there is a little tightness in my sternum area.
    >
    >Does this sound like anything serious?

    It's probably a toomah. Or an alien. Don't eat salad with Sigourney
    Weaver and you should be safe.

    >My biggest fear would be a hernia of some sort but hopefully its not one
    >as it doesnt hurt much and there wasnt any tearing sounds or anything
    >like that. Could I have just strained a muscle or maybe pulled a small
    >muscle under the rib cage?

    No. That would be a common and obvious thing. That NEVER **EVER**
    happens. It's far more likely to be a toomah.

    >Anyone have anything simmilar happen while doing military press?

    Yes. They rested and allowed themselves time to heal before doing heavy
    overhead presses again and their toomahs went away. One did eat salad
    with Sigourney Weaver and ended up in a scene from a late 70's movie.

    Ummm... thanks, I guess.

    Sorry, it's an MFW tradition :-) Noone here can do anything more than
    speculate as to what's wrong. I mean, it could be an aortic aneurism about
    to burst for all we know. Then again, it's probably just a pulled muscle
    or a sprained rib joint (where it meets the sternum). Doing maximum
    singles (that second rep doesn't count because you broke form, and hence
    got injured) isn't such a good idea unless it's a planned part of your
    training program. I both agree and disagree with that last statement.

    Cheers,

    Ari

    Thanks, I appreciate that. It wasn't bothering me much at all untill me and
    my cousin started talking about the possibility of a hernia and my
    hypochondriac self started obsessing about it. Maybe this is a good excuse
    to take a full week off and start a cycle of HST. I'm definitely goingto
    take your advice about singles, they're out.

  7. Paul 'Mr.Wonderful' Orndorff said:

    "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul 'Mr.Wonderful' Orndorff said:

    "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    >Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>I hurt myself doing military press with dumbbells on Wednesday. It was
    >>with heavy enough weights that I was only able to do 2 reps. The first
    >>one went fine but I really had to force the second rep and I think I
    >>arched backward too much. I definitelyt felt a slight strain just below
    >>my rib cage and there is a little tightness in my sternum area.
    >>
    >>Does this sound like anything serious?
    >
    >It's probably a toomah. Or an alien. Don't eat salad with Sigourney
    >Weaver and you should be safe.
    >
    >
    >
    >>My biggest fear would be a hernia of some sort but hopefully its not one
    >>as it doesnt hurt much and there wasnt any tearing sounds or anything
    >>like that. Could I have just strained a muscle or maybe pulled a small
    >>muscle under the rib cage?
    >
    >No. That would be a common and obvious thing. That NEVER **EVER**
    >happens. It's far more likely to be a toomah.
    >
    >
    >
    >>Anyone have anything simmilar happen while doing military press?
    >
    >Yes. They rested and allowed themselves time to heal before doing heavy
    >overhead presses again and their toomahs went away. One did eat salad
    >with Sigourney Weaver and ended up in a scene from a late 70's movie.
    >

    Ummm... thanks, I guess.

    Sorry, it's an MFW tradition :-) Noone here can do anything more than
    speculate as to what's wrong. I mean, it could be an aortic aneurism about
    to burst for all we know. Then again, it's probably just a pulled muscle
    or a sprained rib joint (where it meets the sternum). Doing maximum
    singles (that second rep doesn't count because you broke form, and hence
    got injured) isn't such a good idea unless it's a planned part of your
    training program. I both agree and disagree with that last statement.

    Cheers,

    Ari

    Thanks, I appreciate that. It wasn't bothering me much at all untill me and
    my cousin started talking about the possibility of a hernia and my
    hypochondriac self started obsessing about it. Maybe this is a good excuse
    to take a full week off and start a cycle of HST. I'm definitely goingto
    take your advice about singles, they're out.

    Dude if you REALLY suspect that you've popped a bit of your stomach up
    to the wrong side of your diaphragm, then go see a doctor. If I recall
    correctly, though, that's pretty much the only type of hernia you need
    worry about in that region (and it's internal, not under the skin),
    unless you've completely ripped through two layers of muscle, and I
    would imagine there'd be no questions in your mind about being really
    hurt if that happened. If you popped something out near your lower
    abdomen, then that's a different type of hernia in a known weak spot for
    men, but from what I understand you to be saying, your soreness is on
    the opposite side of the abdomen, right?

    cheers,

    Ari

    --
    spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

    I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
    neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
    hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
    marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
    transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
    http://www.abmdr.org.au/
    http://www.marrow.org/

  8. spodosaurus <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Paul 'Mr.Wonderful' Orndorff said:

    "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:

    >"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >
    >>Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>I hurt myself doing military press with dumbbells on Wednesday. It
    >>>was with heavy enough weights that I was only able to do 2 reps. The
    >>>first one went fine but I really had to force the second rep and I
    >>>think I arched backward too much. I definitelyt felt a slight strain
    >>>just below my rib cage and there is a little tightness in my sternum
    >>>area.
    >>>
    >>>Does this sound like anything serious?
    >>
    >>It's probably a toomah. Or an alien. Don't eat salad with Sigourney
    >>Weaver and you should be safe.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>My biggest fear would be a hernia of some sort but hopefully its not
    >>>one as it doesnt hurt much and there wasnt any tearing sounds or
    >>>anything like that. Could I have just strained a muscle or maybe
    >>>pulled a small muscle under the rib cage?
    >>
    >>No. That would be a common and obvious thing. That NEVER **EVER**
    >>happens. It's far more likely to be a toomah.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>Anyone have anything simmilar happen while doing military press?
    >>
    >>Yes. They rested and allowed themselves time to heal before doing
    >>heavy overhead presses again and their toomahs went away. One did eat
    >>salad with Sigourney Weaver and ended up in a scene from a late 70's
    >>movie.
    >>
    >
    >Ummm... thanks, I guess.

    Sorry, it's an MFW tradition :-) Noone here can do anything more than
    speculate as to what's wrong. I mean, it could be an aortic aneurism
    about to burst for all we know. Then again, it's probably just a pulled
    muscle or a sprained rib joint (where it meets the sternum). Doing
    maximum singles (that second rep doesn't count because you broke form,
    and hence got injured) isn't such a good idea unless it's a planned
    part of your training program. I both agree and disagree with that last
    statement.

    Cheers,

    Ari

    Thanks, I appreciate that. It wasn't bothering me much at all untill me
    and my cousin started talking about the possibility of a hernia and my
    hypochondriac self started obsessing about it. Maybe this is a good
    excuse to take a full week off and start a cycle of HST. I'm definitely
    goingto take your advice about singles, they're out.

    Dude if you REALLY suspect that you've popped a bit of your stomach up
    to the wrong side of your diaphragm, then go see a doctor. If I recall
    correctly, though, that's pretty much the only type of hernia you need
    worry about in that region (and it's internal, not under the skin),
    unless you've completely ripped through two layers of muscle, and I
    would imagine there'd be no questions in your mind about being really
    hurt if that happened. If you popped something out near your lower
    abdomen, then that's a different type of hernia in a known weak spot for
    men, but from what I understand you to be saying, your soreness is on
    the opposite side of the abdomen, right?

    cheers,

    Ari

    If the pain is really over the sternum, i.e. the bone, then you probably
    strained something minor. If it's between the bottom of your sternum and
    your navel, it could be a hernia. I popped one there doing [censored] pulls.
    The good news is it's pretty minor as hernias go. Feel around and see if
    there is a lump--if there is see if you can massage it out of existance.
    If there isn't just monitor it--mine didn't become noticeable for a few
    weeks, I think.

    Hugh

    --
    Run like hell and let the clowns deal with the bull.

  9. "Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff"
    <PaulMr.Wonderful"[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I hurt myself doing military press with dumbbells on Wednesday. It was
    with heavy enough weights that I was only able to do 2 reps. The first
    one went fine but I really had to force the second rep and I think I
    arched backward too much. I definitelyt felt a slight strain just below
    my rib cage and there is a little tightness in my sternum area.

    Does this sound like anything serious? My biggest fear would be a
    hernia of some sort but hopefully its not one as it doesnt hurt much
    and there wasnt any tearing sounds or anything like that. Could I have
    just strained a muscle or maybe pulled a small muscle under the rib
    cage? Anyone have anything simmilar happen while doing military press?

    http://hernia.tripod.com/types.html

    -S-
    http://www.kbnj.com

  10. "Hugh Beyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    spodosaurus <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Paul 'Mr.Wonderful' Orndorff said:

    "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    >Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    >>news:[email hidden]...
    >>
    >>
    >>>Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>I hurt myself doing military press with dumbbells on Wednesday. It
    >>>>was with heavy enough weights that I was only able to do 2 reps. The
    >>>>first one went fine but I really had to force the second rep and I
    >>>>think I arched backward too much. I definitelyt felt a slight strain
    >>>>just below my rib cage and there is a little tightness in my sternum
    >>>>area.
    >>>>
    >>>>Does this sound like anything serious?
    >>>
    >>>It's probably a toomah. Or an alien. Don't eat salad with Sigourney
    >>>Weaver and you should be safe.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>My biggest fear would be a hernia of some sort but hopefully its not
    >>>>one as it doesnt hurt much and there wasnt any tearing sounds or
    >>>>anything like that. Could I have just strained a muscle or maybe
    >>>>pulled a small muscle under the rib cage?
    >>>
    >>>No. That would be a common and obvious thing. That NEVER **EVER**
    >>>happens. It's far more likely to be a toomah.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Anyone have anything simmilar happen while doing military press?
    >>>
    >>>Yes. They rested and allowed themselves time to heal before doing
    >>>heavy overhead presses again and their toomahs went away. One did eat
    >>>salad with Sigourney Weaver and ended up in a scene from a late 70's
    >>>movie.
    >>>
    >>
    >>Ummm... thanks, I guess.
    >
    >Sorry, it's an MFW tradition :-) Noone here can do anything more than
    >speculate as to what's wrong. I mean, it could be an aortic aneurism
    >about to burst for all we know. Then again, it's probably just a pulled
    >muscle or a sprained rib joint (where it meets the sternum). Doing
    >maximum singles (that second rep doesn't count because you broke form,
    >and hence got injured) isn't such a good idea unless it's a planned
    >part of your training program. I both agree and disagree with that last
    >statement.
    >
    >Cheers,
    >
    >Ari

    Thanks, I appreciate that. It wasn't bothering me much at all untill me
    and my cousin started talking about the possibility of a hernia and my
    hypochondriac self started obsessing about it. Maybe this is a good
    excuse to take a full week off and start a cycle of HST. I'm definitely
    goingto take your advice about singles, they're out.

    Dude if you REALLY suspect that you've popped a bit of your stomach up
    to the wrong side of your diaphragm, then go see a doctor. If I recall
    correctly, though, that's pretty much the only type of hernia you need
    worry about in that region (and it's internal, not under the skin),
    unless you've completely ripped through two layers of muscle, and I
    would imagine there'd be no questions in your mind about being really
    hurt if that happened. If you popped something out near your lower
    abdomen, then that's a different type of hernia in a known weak spot for
    men, but from what I understand you to be saying, your soreness is on
    the opposite side of the abdomen, right?

    cheers,

    Ari

    If the pain is really over the sternum, i.e. the bone, then you probably
    strained something minor. If it's between the bottom of your sternum and
    your navel, it could be a hernia. I popped one there doing [censored] pulls.
    The good news is it's pretty minor as hernias go. Feel around and see if
    there is a lump--if there is see if you can massage it out of existance.
    If there isn't just monitor it--mine didn't become noticeable for a few
    weeks, I think.

    Hugh

    There is no lump as far as I can tell. It's been 4 days and it doesn't hurt
    anymore. If it were a hernia, would the discomfort just go away on its own?

  11. "Paul \"Mr.Wonderful\" Orndorff"
    <PaulMr.Wonderful"[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    "Hugh Beyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    spodosaurus <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:
    > "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >>Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email hidden]...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>I hurt myself doing military press with dumbbells on Wednesday. It
    >>>>>was with heavy enough weights that I was only able to do 2 reps.
    >>>>>The first one went fine but I really had to force the second rep
    >>>>>and I think I arched backward too much. I definitelyt felt a
    >>>>>slight strain just below my rib cage and there is a little
    >>>>>tightness in my sternum area.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Does this sound like anything serious?
    >>>>
    >>>>It's probably a toomah. Or an alien. Don't eat salad with Sigourney
    >>>>Weaver and you should be safe.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>My biggest fear would be a hernia of some sort but hopefully its
    >>>>>not one as it doesnt hurt much and there wasnt any tearing sounds
    >>>>>or anything like that. Could I have just strained a muscle or
    >>>>>maybe pulled a small muscle under the rib cage?
    >>>>
    >>>>No. That would be a common and obvious thing. That NEVER **EVER**
    >>>>happens. It's far more likely to be a toomah.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Anyone have anything simmilar happen while doing military press?
    >>>>
    >>>>Yes. They rested and allowed themselves time to heal before doing
    >>>>heavy overhead presses again and their toomahs went away. One did
    >>>>eat salad with Sigourney Weaver and ended up in a scene from a late
    >>>>70's movie.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>Ummm... thanks, I guess.
    >>
    >>Sorry, it's an MFW tradition :-) Noone here can do anything more than
    >>speculate as to what's wrong. I mean, it could be an aortic aneurism
    >>about to burst for all we know. Then again, it's probably just a
    >>pulled muscle or a sprained rib joint (where it meets the sternum).
    >>Doing maximum singles (that second rep doesn't count because you
    >>broke form, and hence got injured) isn't such a good idea unless it's
    >>a planned part of your training program. I both agree and disagree
    >>with that last statement.
    >>
    >>Cheers,
    >>
    >>Ari
    >
    >
    > Thanks, I appreciate that. It wasn't bothering me much at all untill
    > me and my cousin started talking about the possibility of a hernia
    > and my hypochondriac self started obsessing about it. Maybe this is a
    > good excuse to take a full week off and start a cycle of HST. I'm
    > definitely goingto take your advice about singles, they're out.
    >
    >

    Dude if you REALLY suspect that you've popped a bit of your stomach up
    to the wrong side of your diaphragm, then go see a doctor. If I recall
    correctly, though, that's pretty much the only type of hernia you need
    worry about in that region (and it's internal, not under the skin),
    unless you've completely ripped through two layers of muscle, and I
    would imagine there'd be no questions in your mind about being really
    hurt if that happened. If you popped something out near your lower
    abdomen, then that's a different type of hernia in a known weak spot
    for men, but from what I understand you to be saying, your soreness is
    on the opposite side of the abdomen, right?

    cheers,

    Ari

    If the pain is really over the sternum, i.e. the bone, then you
    probably strained something minor. If it's between the bottom of your
    sternum and your navel, it could be a hernia. I popped one there doing
    [censored] pulls. The good news is it's pretty minor as hernias go. Feel
    around and see if there is a lump--if there is see if you can massage
    it out of existance. If there isn't just monitor it--mine didn't become
    noticeable for a few weeks, I think.

    Hugh

    There is no lump as far as I can tell. It's been 4 days and it doesn't
    hurt anymore. If it were a hernia, would the discomfort just go away on
    its own?

    So it is in the upper abdomen, not over the bone?

    I am not a doctor, but FWIW: Yes, the discomfort might well just go away
    on its own. I popped mine in September and didn't get it looked at until
    the following January--I only know when I started it because I made a note
    in my log. I didn't have a lump right away--I noticed it later, massaged
    it, it went away, didn't come back for a while--noticed it again after
    pullups, massaged it away again--came back--finally decided to go in.

    So even if it's a hernia you can probably afford to ignore it until you
    get a lump or pain that bothers you.

    But it might just be a muscle or tendon strain. You can probably afford
    just to take it easy and see what develops.

    Unless it's a toomah.

    Hugh

    --
    Run like hell and let the clowns deal with the bull.

  12. "Hugh Beyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Paul \"Mr.Wonderful\" Orndorff"
    <PaulMr.Wonderful"[email hidden]> wrote in
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    spodosaurus <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in
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    > Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:
    >> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
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    >>>Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
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    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorff [email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>I hurt myself doing military press with dumbbells on Wednesday. It
    >>>>>>was with heavy enough weights that I was only able to do 2 reps.
    >>>>>>The first one went fine but I really had to force the second rep
    >>>>>>and I think I arched backward too much. I definitelyt felt a
    >>>>>>slight strain just below my rib cage and there is a little
    >>>>>>tightness in my sternum area.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Does this sound like anything serious?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>It's probably a toomah. Or an alien. Don't eat salad with Sigourney
    >>>>>Weaver and you should be safe.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>My biggest fear would be a hernia of some sort but hopefully its
    >>>>>>not one as it doesnt hurt much and there wasnt any tearing sounds
    >>>>>>or anything like that. Could I have just strained a muscle or
    >>>>>>maybe pulled a small muscle under the rib cage?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>No. That would be a common and obvious thing. That NEVER **EVER**
    >>>>>happens. It's far more likely to be a toomah.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Anyone have anything simmilar happen while doing military press?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Yes. They rested and allowed themselves time to heal before doing
    >>>>>heavy overhead presses again and their toomahs went away. One did
    >>>>>eat salad with Sigourney Weaver and ended up in a scene from a late
    >>>>>70's movie.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>Ummm... thanks, I guess.
    >>>
    >>>Sorry, it's an MFW tradition :-) Noone here can do anything more than
    >>>speculate as to what's wrong. I mean, it could be an aortic aneurism
    >>>about to burst for all we know. Then again, it's probably just a
    >>>pulled muscle or a sprained rib joint (where it meets the sternum).
    >>>Doing maximum singles (that second rep doesn't count because you
    >>>broke form, and hence got injured) isn't such a good idea unless it's
    >>>a planned part of your training program. I both agree and disagree
    >>>with that last statement.
    >>>
    >>>Cheers,
    >>>
    >>>Ari
    >>
    >>
    >> Thanks, I appreciate that. It wasn't bothering me much at all untill
    >> me and my cousin started talking about the possibility of a hernia
    >> and my hypochondriac self started obsessing about it. Maybe this is a
    >> good excuse to take a full week off and start a cycle of HST. I'm
    >> definitely goingto take your advice about singles, they're out.
    >>
    >>
    >
    > Dude if you REALLY suspect that you've popped a bit of your stomach up
    > to the wrong side of your diaphragm, then go see a doctor. If I recall
    > correctly, though, that's pretty much the only type of hernia you need
    > worry about in that region (and it's internal, not under the skin),
    > unless you've completely ripped through two layers of muscle, and I
    > would imagine there'd be no questions in your mind about being really
    > hurt if that happened. If you popped something out near your lower
    > abdomen, then that's a different type of hernia in a known weak spot
    > for men, but from what I understand you to be saying, your soreness is
    > on the opposite side of the abdomen, right?
    >
    > cheers,
    >
    > Ari
    >

    If the pain is really over the sternum, i.e. the bone, then you
    probably strained something minor. If it's between the bottom of your
    sternum and your navel, it could be a hernia. I popped one there doing
    [censored] pulls. The good news is it's pretty minor as hernias go. Feel
    around and see if there is a lump--if there is see if you can massage
    it out of existance. If there isn't just monitor it--mine didn't become
    noticeable for a few weeks, I think.

    Hugh

    There is no lump as far as I can tell. It's been 4 days and it doesn't
    hurt anymore. If it were a hernia, would the discomfort just go away on
    its own?

    So it is in the upper abdomen, not over the bone?

    I am not a doctor, but FWIW: Yes, the discomfort might well just go away
    on its own. I popped mine in September and didn't get it looked at until
    the following January--I only know when I started it because I made a note
    in my log. I didn't have a lump right away--I noticed it later, massaged
    it, it went away, didn't come back for a while--noticed it again after
    pullups, massaged it away again--came back--finally decided to go in.

    So even if it's a hernia you can probably afford to ignore it until you
    get a lump or pain that bothers you.

    But it might just be a muscle or tendon strain. You can probably afford
    just to take it easy and see what develops.

    Unless it's a toomah.

    Hugh

    Thanks for the advice. At this point, its hard to tell what is the real
    pain/discomfort and what is psychosomatic. I don't even feel like leaning
    forward because of this (scared I might fall out all over the place... jk).
    When I lay down with my arms behind my head the tightness is definitely in
    my sternum, right on the bone. If there is a hernia right under the sternum
    or upper abdomen, what's the surgery like?

  13. "Paul \"Mr.Wonderful\" Orndorff"
    <PaulMr.Wonderful"[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am not a doctor, but FWIW: Yes, the discomfort might well just go
    away on its own. I popped mine in September and didn't get it looked at
    until the following January--I only know when I started it because I
    made a note in my log. I didn't have a lump right away--I noticed it
    later, massaged it, it went away, didn't come back for a while--noticed
    it again after pullups, massaged it away again--came back--finally
    decided to go in.

    So even if it's a hernia you can probably afford to ignore it until you
    get a lump or pain that bothers you.

    But it might just be a muscle or tendon strain. You can probably afford
    just to take it easy and see what develops.

    Unless it's a toomah.

    Hugh

    Thanks for the advice. At this point, its hard to tell what is the real
    pain/discomfort and what is psychosomatic. I don't even feel like
    leaning forward because of this (scared I might fall out all over the
    place... jk). When I lay down with my arms behind my head the tightness
    is definitely in my sternum, right on the bone. If there is a hernia
    right under the sternum or upper abdomen, what's the surgery like?

    Quit worrying. Go do a set of clapping pushups to get over it. You're not
    going to get a hernia under your sternum--bone tends to hold you together--
    and you'll have plenty of time to deal with anything else. And surgery is a
    day out of your life.

    Hugh

    --
    Run like hell and let the clowns deal with the bull.

  14. "Hugh Beyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Paul \"Mr.Wonderful\" Orndorff"
    <PaulMr.Wonderful"[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am not a doctor, but FWIW: Yes, the discomfort might well just go
    away on its own. I popped mine in September and didn't get it looked at
    until the following January--I only know when I started it because I
    made a note in my log. I didn't have a lump right away--I noticed it
    later, massaged it, it went away, didn't come back for a while--noticed
    it again after pullups, massaged it away again--came back--finally
    decided to go in.

    So even if it's a hernia you can probably afford to ignore it until you
    get a lump or pain that bothers you.

    But it might just be a muscle or tendon strain. You can probably afford
    just to take it easy and see what develops.

    Unless it's a toomah.

    Hugh

    Thanks for the advice. At this point, its hard to tell what is the real
    pain/discomfort and what is psychosomatic. I don't even feel like
    leaning forward because of this (scared I might fall out all over the
    place... jk). When I lay down with my arms behind my head the tightness
    is definitely in my sternum, right on the bone. If there is a hernia
    right under the sternum or upper abdomen, what's the surgery like?

    Quit worrying. Go do a set of clapping pushups to get over it. You're not
    going to get a hernia under your sternum--bone tends to hold you
    together--
    and you'll have plenty of time to deal with anything else. And surgery is
    a
    day out of your life.

    Hugh

    Thanks.

  15. not sure if a hernia can go away. with time I would think it should let
    you know more about itself. at some point you won't be able to sneeze
    without not noticing it. at least that is how mine acted.

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    not sure if a hernia can go away. with time I would think it should let
    you know more about itself. at some point you won't be able to sneeze
    without not noticing it. at least that is how mine acted.

    Was yours that high up?

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