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  1. Hi there,

    I'm visiting China in March 2006 and one of things I want to do is to
    get to Everest Base Camp. As part of my trip I'll be visitign Tibet but
    I had no plans to go to Nepal. However, it looks like all of the tours
    go from Nepal and involve approximately a 20 day hike.

    According to my guide book, it's possible to get to Everest Base camp in
    Tibet if you visit the Rongphu Monastery (aparently there is a 2 hour
    walk from there to base camp).

    So I'm wondering if (a) I really need to go to Nepal (because a flight
    from Beijing costs around £800), (b) whether they both lead to the same
    base camp and (c) if not, what the difference is.

    I'd quite like to do the organised trek from Nepal but I'm just curious
    as to what the differences are.

    Thanks,
    Gregor

  2. Hi Gregor,
    I have been to the Tibetan Everest Base Camp, which is a 'drive-up',
    although a difficult, many day rough road, for days. Most days, there
    is little in the way of views, interesting landscape, or wildlife. Just
    miles of toilet paper - all pink 15 years ago. When you travel half a
    day through sand & gravel ruts, you might spot a tree ahead. It will be
    an 'oasis', with water enough for a few people & tree/s. There may be
    one building, which may sell gas, 'food', souvenirs or possibly
    overnight lodging, or a few buildings. 4 or 5 hours later, you might
    see the next 'village'.

    I have also been to Nepal 7 times, & plan to return. More on that
    later.

    I didn't go to Rongphku, but to Rongbuk Monastery, which is also a 2
    hour hike to the Tibetan Base camp. You can also drive most of the 2
    miles- or all, if the washed-out bridge has been rebuilt. You can see
    nice views of Everest at & near BC. On a little flattened mound, you
    will see crude tomb-stones, etched with the names of deceased climbers
    over many years.

    The Nepal Everest Base Camp is on the other side of the mountain. A
    long drive around the base of the mountain/s brings you to the Nepal
    border crossing of Kodari, across the Freedom Bridge. As you approach
    Nepal, you will immediately see the stark difference in terrain - lush
    green trees, grass, terraced hillsides with everything growing. A long
    day bus ride from Kodari, down the fantastic Kathmandu [KTM] Valley -
    which seems to go forever - you eventually reach the city of KTM.

    Quoted message said:

    From KTM, you can travel a few hours, via taxi, van, or bus, to


    Chitwan Park, where you can go on a jungle safari, & ride an elephant
    as you observe rare one-horned rhinos, only a few hunjdred feet above
    sea level. Overnight in a rustic lodge [facilities, power, screens],
    then take a dugout float trip Then hike through neat forest trails,
    seeing more crocs, many rare & other birds.

    It seems strange to see coconuts, bananas, monkeys, - - - as you go
    through different areas near KTM - especially in contrast with barren
    Tibet.

    If you want to go to Everest Base Camp in Nepal [or nearby Kalar
    Pataar, where you have much better views], you have choices:

    [1] Nepal Organized Trek: For an organized trek to Nepal Base Camp,
    you can hire a company who arranges for porters & cooks, who carry
    food, fuel, pots & pans, tents, etc. They carry your bags, set up
    tents, under the direction of a guide. They often camp near trailside
    lodges, for access to water & other facilities. Expensive.

    [2] Nepal Tea-house Treks to Kala Patar or Gorak Shep, with excellent
    of Everest, Ama Dablam, Island Peaks, etc. [not to B C, as no
    facilities] can be done several ways:
    [A] You can go on your own, stopping for lunch at trailside villages,
    and dinner, lodging & breakfast at another -usually larger- village.
    [B] You can hire a Sherpa porter, who will carry a large bag for you &
    a friend for $5-6/day - total. Usually 1 porter for each couple.
    [C] You can fly one or both ways KTM - Lukla. If flying one way, it is
    best to trek up, then fly back, in order to acclimatize as you slowly
    increase altitude. The drawback is the possibility of flight delays on
    the return flight, which can cause problems if time in Nepal is limited
    after the trek. A one way flight can save 4 or 5 days, if no flight
    delays.
    If you fly in, allow an extra day to adjust to altitude. You can
    arrange for a Lukla porter locally, if available, or from KTM -
    slightly more expensive,.but may help keep on schedule.

    To start the 23 day trek, you start from KTM, via an all day bus ride,
    which takes you up the KTM Valley along the China Road, within 90 km
    of Kodari [Tibetan border], before turning east to Jiri. After
    overnight in a Jiri hotel, you trek through lush forested hills, beside
    terraced fields, and tiny villages, stopping for lunch at one of the
    lodges in a small trailside village to Bhandar. Overnight at one of the
    lodges [recommend Ang Dawa Lodge, run by Sherpa friends of mine], next
    to two round, white Buddhist Stupas -small temples. You can make
    arrangements with Kaputi Sherpa or one of her daughters to visit the
    Stupa.]

    The nest day you trek to Sete. A couple of days later you reach Lukla
    [& see Hillary's first air strip], or bypass it, going through 2
    smaller villages,continuing on to Namche Bazaar. A rest day in Namche
    allows a side trip to Khumjung, site of Hillary's first school, & Mt.
    Everest Hotel - possibly still closed, but the highest [elevation, if
    not rates] in the world],

    This is getting too long, but if you want more info, I will to glad to
    send it direct.The Nepal treks bring you much closer to the feel of the
    mountain, their people, & their customs. The teahouse treks let you
    live in their houses - 'lodges' - along the way.

    Regards,
    Jack

  3. Hi Jack,

    Thanks very much for taking the time to write all of this information
    for me - I really appreciate it. The Tibetan Everest Base Camp sounds
    pretty tricky to get to and possibly not as rewarding as the Nepalese
    base camp trek?

    So, it sounds like Nepal Everest Base camp is the better option and it
    seems I can fly to KTM from Shanghai for a fairly reasonably price.
    Once there, I think I'll probably do one of the organised treks - either
    camping or staying at tea-houses (which sounds a fantastic way to really
    to experience the Nepalese way of life).

    One other benefit of flying to KTM is that it seems they do tours to
    Tibet which might be easier than me making my way down there myself from
    Beijing.

    I still have some planning to do but thanks very much for your
    information - it was very helpful indeed.

    Regards,
    Gregor

    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Gregor,
    I have been to the Tibetan Everest Base Camp, which is a 'drive-up',
    although a difficult, many day rough road, for days. Most days, there
    is little in the way of views, interesting landscape, or wildlife. Just
    miles of toilet paper - all pink 15 years ago. When you travel half a
    day through sand & gravel ruts, you might spot a tree ahead. It will be
    an 'oasis', with water enough for a few people & tree/s. There may be
    one building, which may sell gas, 'food', souvenirs or possibly
    overnight lodging, or a few buildings. 4 or 5 hours later, you might
    see the next 'village'.

    <snip>


  4. Quoted message said:

    I still have some planning to do but thanks very much for your
    information - it was very helpful indeed.

    <snip>

    If it's any help. I did the Annapurna Circuit in April this year - it was
    absolutely fantastic.
    This was an organised trek and I'd go back to Nepal tomorrow if I could.
    It's beautiful country and the people are great.
    The Sherpa who led us is a regular to EBC and he said the same as most other
    people we spoke with.
    It's a [censored] hole.

    Hope you get sorted anyway.

  5. Ann Taylor says...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I still have some planning to do but thanks very much for your
    information - it was very helpful indeed.

    <snip>

    If it's any help. I did the Annapurna Circuit in April this year - it was
    absolutely fantastic.
    This was an organised trek and I'd go back to Nepal tomorrow if I could.
    It's beautiful country and the people are great.
    The Sherpa who led us is a regular to EBC and he said the same as most other
    people we spoke with.
    It's a [censored] hole.

    Hope you get sorted anyway.

    Thanks! Sorry for the late reply- only just got around to checking
    news. Even if it's a [censored] hole, I'll be able to tell people I've been
    and they won't know any better! ;-)

    Cheers

  6. Parp said:

    Thanks! Sorry for the late reply- only just got around to checking
    news. Even if it's a [censored] hole, I'll be able to tell people I've been
    and they won't know any better! ;-)

    It may be a [censored] hole, but it is a experiance nontheless!!! 🙂)

    Have a good one!

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