TIAA CREF finished 9 at USPRO roads.

and 3 of those were top 10!

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US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

They also had 15 of 102 starters.

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US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

3 Danny Pate (Team TIAA-CREF)

9 Blake Caldwell (Team TIAA-CREF)

10 William Frischkorn (Team TIAA-CREF)
15 Peter Stetina (Team TIAA-CREF)
18 Bryan Smith (Team TIAA-CREF)
20 Craig Lewis (Team TIAA-CREF)
21 Steven Cozza (Team TIAA-CREF)
28 Lucas Euser (Team TIAA-CREF)
29 Ian Macgregor (Team TIAA-CREF)

Gotta make the sponsors happy to see their riders still out in front of
the crowds (and on the podium).

At least four of these guys (Danny, Blake, Peter and Ian) are home
grown Coloradans that came up through the junior ranks as opposed to
guys who moved to CO after they were already good. I've raced against
three of their fathers that I know of.

Bret

Bret said:

Quoted message said:

US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

3 Danny Pate (Team TIAA-CREF)

9 Blake Caldwell (Team TIAA-CREF)

10 William Frischkorn (Team TIAA-CREF)
15 Peter Stetina (Team TIAA-CREF)
18 Bryan Smith (Team TIAA-CREF)
20 Craig Lewis (Team TIAA-CREF)
21 Steven Cozza (Team TIAA-CREF)
28 Lucas Euser (Team TIAA-CREF)
29 Ian Macgregor (Team TIAA-CREF)

Gotta make the sponsors happy to see their riders still out in front of
the crowds (and on the podium).

At least four of these guys (Danny, Blake, Peter and Ian) are home
grown Coloradans that came up through the junior ranks as opposed to
guys who moved to CO after they were already good. I've raced against
three of their fathers that I know of.

Bret

Are you saying they don't know who their fathers are?

Fred

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Bret said:

Quoted message said:

US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

3 Danny Pate (Team TIAA-CREF)

9 Blake Caldwell (Team TIAA-CREF)

10 William Frischkorn (Team TIAA-CREF)
15 Peter Stetina (Team TIAA-CREF)
18 Bryan Smith (Team TIAA-CREF)
20 Craig Lewis (Team TIAA-CREF)
21 Steven Cozza (Team TIAA-CREF)
28 Lucas Euser (Team TIAA-CREF)
29 Ian Macgregor (Team TIAA-CREF)

Gotta make the sponsors happy to see their riders still out in front of
the crowds (and on the podium).

At least four of these guys (Danny, Blake, Peter and Ian) are home
grown Coloradans that came up through the junior ranks as opposed to
guys who moved to CO after they were already good. I've raced against
three of their fathers that I know of.

Bret

Are you saying they don't know who their fathers are?

Fred

That's right. Of the guys listed, I only know three of their fathers.

Bret

Quoted message said:

US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

3 Danny Pate (Team TIAA-CREF)

9 Blake Caldwell (Team TIAA-CREF)

10 William Frischkorn (Team TIAA-CREF)
15 Peter Stetina (Team TIAA-CREF)
18 Bryan Smith (Team TIAA-CREF)
20 Craig Lewis (Team TIAA-CREF)
21 Steven Cozza (Team TIAA-CREF)
28 Lucas Euser (Team TIAA-CREF)
29 Ian Macgregor (Team TIAA-CREF)

Gotta make the sponsors happy to see their riders still out in front of
the crowds (and on the podium).

Well then, only one finished. Only NINE riders rode across the finish
line.

duped

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Quoted message said:

US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

3 Danny Pate (Team TIAA-CREF)

9 Blake Caldwell (Team TIAA-CREF)

10 William Frischkorn (Team TIAA-CREF)
15 Peter Stetina (Team TIAA-CREF)
18 Bryan Smith (Team TIAA-CREF)
20 Craig Lewis (Team TIAA-CREF)
21 Steven Cozza (Team TIAA-CREF)
28 Lucas Euser (Team TIAA-CREF)
29 Ian Macgregor (Team TIAA-CREF)

Gotta make the sponsors happy to see their riders still out in front of
the crowds (and on the podium).

Well then, only one finished. Only NINE riders rode across the finish
line.

duped

two

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

3 Danny Pate (Team TIAA-CREF)

9 Blake Caldwell (Team TIAA-CREF)

10 William Frischkorn (Team TIAA-CREF)
15 Peter Stetina (Team TIAA-CREF)
18 Bryan Smith (Team TIAA-CREF)
20 Craig Lewis (Team TIAA-CREF)
21 Steven Cozza (Team TIAA-CREF)
28 Lucas Euser (Team TIAA-CREF)
29 Ian Macgregor (Team TIAA-CREF)

Gotta make the sponsors happy to see their riders still out in front of
the crowds (and on the podium).

Well then, only one finished. Only NINE riders rode across the finish
line.

31 riders are credited with a finishing time. How does that happen if
only nine cross the line?

I think you're having a problem understanding the following sentence in
the cyclingnews report:

"Nine riders survived this time up the climb with Hincapie and
Leipheimer, including Wherry, Ben Jacques-Maynes (KodakGallery-Sierra
Nevada), Danny Pate and Blake Caldwell (TIAA-CREF), with Phil Zajicek
and Burke Swindlehurst (Navigators Insurance) setting the tempo."

That means only 11 were left in the front group. It says nothing about
the number of finishers.

Back to [censored] and Jane for you.

And Navigators Insurance finished 4 in the top 14:

4) Swindlehurst
8) Zajicek
13) Van Ulden
14) Milne

Considering they only had 4 in the race, it was a great showing, must be
good for the sponsors!

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Quoted message said:

US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

3 Danny Pate (Team TIAA-CREF)

9 Blake Caldwell (Team TIAA-CREF)

10 William Frischkorn (Team TIAA-CREF)
15 Peter Stetina (Team TIAA-CREF)
18 Bryan Smith (Team TIAA-CREF)
20 Craig Lewis (Team TIAA-CREF)
21 Steven Cozza (Team TIAA-CREF)
28 Lucas Euser (Team TIAA-CREF)
29 Ian Macgregor (Team TIAA-CREF)

Gotta make the sponsors happy to see their riders still out in front of
the crowds (and on the podium).

Kyle Legate said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

3 Danny Pate (Team TIAA-CREF)

9 Blake Caldwell (Team TIAA-CREF)

10 William Frischkorn (Team TIAA-CREF)
15 Peter Stetina (Team TIAA-CREF)
18 Bryan Smith (Team TIAA-CREF)
20 Craig Lewis (Team TIAA-CREF)
21 Steven Cozza (Team TIAA-CREF)
28 Lucas Euser (Team TIAA-CREF)
29 Ian Macgregor (Team TIAA-CREF)

Gotta make the sponsors happy to see their riders still out in front of
the crowds (and on the podium).

Well then, only one finished. Only NINE riders rode across the finish
line.

31 riders are credited with a finishing time. How does that happen if
only nine cross the line?

I think you're having a problem understanding the following sentence in
the cyclingnews report:

"Nine riders survived this time up the climb with Hincapie and
Leipheimer, including Wherry, Ben Jacques-Maynes (KodakGallery-Sierra
Nevada), Danny Pate and Blake Caldwell (TIAA-CREF), with Phil Zajicek
and Burke Swindlehurst (Navigators Insurance) setting the tempo."

That means only 11 were left in the front group. It says nothing about
the number of finishers.

Back to [censored] and Jane for you.

No, Dickweed

It means that the dozens of fans who spent all Sunday at the finish
waiting, saw NINE riders come across the line. All other "finishers"
were NOT allowed on the finishing circuits, and were given Pro-rated
times.
Glad to help you understand.

Duped

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US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

<meaningless placings snipped>

"Second place, third place, who cares? The only place that matters is
first"

- Sean Kelly

Kurgan Gringioni said:

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US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

<meaningless placings snipped>

"Second place, third place, who cares? The only place that matters is
first"

- Sean Kelly

With your unfettered disdain for all things "masters fattie", I'd think
you'd be more supportive of a team of youngsters duking it out with the
big boys!

Fred

Kurgan Gringioni said:

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US PRO road race:
9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

<meaningless placings snipped>

"Second place, third place, who cares? The only place that matters is
first"

- Sean Kelly

Dumbass,

That's a valid point of view for a race favorite, maybe. Who but a race
favorite ever says that? Anyone who has a break through ride (Andy
Bajadali for example) has every right to be thrilled. There's even less
reason for a spectator to limit their interest to the winner.

Bret

Kurgan Gringioni said:

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US PRO road race:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

<meaningless placings snipped>

"Second place, third place, who cares? The only place that matters is
first"

- Sean Kelly

"Second is no better than fifth" - Roy Stetina

Andy Coggan

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No, Dickweed

It means that the dozens of fans who spent all Sunday at the finish
waiting, saw NINE riders come across the line. All other "finishers"
were NOT allowed on the finishing circuits, and were given Pro-rated
times.
Glad to help you understand.

Duped

You're exaggerating, there weren't that many fans there.

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Kurgan Gringioni said:

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US PRO road race:

Quoted message said:

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9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

<meaningless placings snipped>

"Second place, third place, who cares? The only place that matters is
first"

- Sean Kelly

"Second is no better than fifth" - Roy Stetina

Andy Coggan

Except for the prize money, the Pro Tour points, the time bonuses, the
upgrade points, the press coverage, the team bonuses, the medals, the
opportunities to meet podium girls ...

If you were in a four man break behind a solo winner, you wouldn't
sprint for 2nd?

You don't think Roy is pleased with his grandson's 15th? That's a very
good result at his age.

Bret

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US PRO road race:

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9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

<meaningless placings snipped>

"Second place, third place, who cares? The only place that matters is
first"

- Sean Kelly

"Second is no better than fifth" - Roy Stetina

Andy Coggan

"Don't eat ice cream, it's full of plaster." - Roy Stetina

Carl Sundquist said:

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>US PRO road race:

>9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.

<meaningless placings snipped>

"Second place, third place, who cares? The only place that matters is
first"

- Sean Kelly

"Second is no better than fifth" - Roy Stetina

Andy Coggan

"Don't eat ice cream, it's full of plaster." - Roy Stetina

"It gets late early around here."

Yogi

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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

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>>US PRO road race:
>
>>9 of 31 finishers were on the Tiaa cref team.
>
><meaningless placings snipped>
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>"Second place, third place, who cares? The only place that matters is
>first"
>
>- Sean Kelly

"Second is no better than fifth" - Roy Stetina

Andy Coggan

"Don't eat ice cream, it's full of plaster." - Roy Stetina

"It gets late early around here."

Yogi

"Why stand when you can sit?" Followed by: "Why sit when you can lay down?"

Robert Millar

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