threadless fork and headset

Yes,

"Eric Mok" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Hi,

I have a 96' Kona Kula that equipped with old style threaded headset, stem and suspension fork. Is
it possible to replace all these components to threadless counterpart without replacing my frame
as well?

Eric

Eric Mok said:

Hi,

I have a 96' Kona Kula that equipped with old style threaded headset, stem and suspension fork. Is
it possible to replace all these components to threadless counterpart without replacing my frame
as well?

'96 Konas came with threadless headsets...

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Bomba, I might be wrong with the year but I'm sure it is a threaded one. Oh I didn't realize that my
bike is already so old. Do you have any input?

Eric

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Eric Mok said:

Hi,

I have a 96' Kona Kula that equipped with old style threaded headset,

stem

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and suspension fork. Is it possible to replace all these components to threadless counterpart
without replacing my frame as well?

'96 Konas came with threadless headsets...

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Eric Mok <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Bomba, I might be wrong with the year but I'm sure it is a threaded one.

Oh

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I didn't realize that my bike is already so old. Do you have any input?

Eric

If the bike definitely has a threaded headset, it's gonna be a 1 inch (as far as I know - never
heard of bigger than that coming threaded - anyone?).

You can likely buy 1 inch threaded headsets easily enough, but _suspension_ forks with the
matching 1 inch threaded steerer tube are going to be harder to come by, although I do know
Marzocchi make them. If you are looking at a 1 inch threadless steerer rigid fork, you'll have an
easier time of it.

This is all the info I have, and it may be far from complete - hope it helps nevertheless.

Shaun aRe

Eric Mok said:

Bomba, I might be wrong with the year but I'm sure it is a threaded one. Oh I didn't realize that
my bike is already so old. Do you have any input?

I'm trying to remember when my first Kona was from (possibly '95?) and that came with threadless.

As for switching, you've most likely got a 1" headset, so you normally would need a 1" threadless
headset and steerer. AFAIAA, they're hard but not impossible to come by.

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On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 12:01:56 +0100, Shaun Rimmer did issue forth:

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If the bike definitely has a threaded headset, it's gonna be a 1 inch (as far as I know - never
heard of bigger than that coming threaded - anyone?).

Bzzzzzzzzzt. Wrong.

You can get 1 1/8" and 1 1/4" threaded headsets.

Huw "Large nuts" Pritchard

Shaun Rimmer said:

Quoted message said:

Bomba, I might be wrong with the year but I'm sure it is a threaded one.

Oh

Quoted message said:

I didn't realize that my bike is already so old. Do you have any input?

Eric

If the bike definitely has a threaded headset, it's gonna be a 1 inch (as far as I know - never
heard of bigger than that coming threaded - anyone?).

I'm sure in the transition period, there were 1 1/8" threaded headsets, although it might just be my
imagination.

Quoted message said:

You can likely buy 1 inch threaded headsets easily enough, but _suspension_ forks with the
matching 1 inch threaded steerer tube are going to be harder to come by, although I do know
Marzocchi make them. If you are looking at a 1 inch threadless steerer rigid fork, you'll have an
easier time of it.

This is all the info I have, and it may be far from complete - hope it helps nevertheless.

Stock answer, but he already has a 1" threaded headset and fork - he was asking about switching to
threadless.

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Huw Pritchard <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 12:01:56 +0100, Shaun Rimmer did issue forth:

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If the bike definitely has a threaded headset, it's gonna be a 1 inch

(as

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far as I know - never heard of bigger than that coming threaded - anyone?).

Bzzzzzzzzzt. Wrong.

I wasn't wrong - I didn't know for sure, hence the carefully used qualifiers 'as far as I know' and
'[I] never heard of bigger', and me asking if 'anyone?' knew for sure. I also said 'This is all the
info I have, and it may be far from complete'. Oh, 'ner!'.

Quoted message said:

You can get 1 1/8" and 1 1/4" threaded headsets.

Quoted message said:

Huw "Large nuts" Pritchard

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Shaun Rimmer said:

Quoted message said:

Bomba, I might be wrong with the year but I'm sure it is a threaded one.

Oh

Quoted message said:

I didn't realize that my bike is already so old. Do you have any input?

Eric

If the bike definitely has a threaded headset, it's gonna be a 1 inch

(as

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Quoted message said:

far as I know - never heard of bigger than that coming threaded -

anyone?).

Quoted message said:

I'm sure in the transition period, there were 1 1/8" threaded headsets, although it might just be
my imagination.

Cheers - I wasn't sure, just knew I hadn't heard.

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You can likely buy 1 inch threaded headsets easily enough, but

_suspension_

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forks with the matching 1 inch threaded steerer tube are going to be

harder

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to come by, although I do know Marzocchi make them. If you are looking

at a

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1 inch threadless steerer rigid fork, you'll have an easier time of it.

This is all the info I have, and it may be far from complete - hope it

helps

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nevertheless.

Stock answer,

Indeed.

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but he already has a 1" threaded headset and fork - he was asking about switching to threadless.

And that's where I'd typo'd - meant to write 'threadless', I did - 'd'oh' and all that.
Bollox.......

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

Do you imply that it is IMPOSSIBLE (or impractical) to fit an 1-1/8" threadless headset and fork in
my existing frame?

"bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Eric Mok said:

Bomba, I might be wrong with the year but I'm sure it is a threaded one.

Oh

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I didn't realize that my bike is already so old. Do you have any input?

I'm trying to remember when my first Kona was from (possibly '95?) and that came with threadless.

As for switching, you've most likely got a 1" headset, so you normally would need a 1" threadless
headset and steerer. AFAIAA, they're hard but not impossible to come by.

Eric Mok <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Do you imply that it is IMPOSSIBLE (or impractical) to fit an 1-1/8" threadless headset and fork
in my existing frame?

Does your existing frame have a 1 inch headset, or a 1-1/8 inch? You can tell by measuring the
steerer tube on your existing fork - if it's an inch in diameter, you are outa luck for fitting a
1-1/8" (IMPOSSIBLE), if the steerer tube has a diameter of 1-1/8", then you will have no bother.

Shaun aRe - Size matters.

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Eric Mok <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Bomba, I might be wrong with the year but I'm sure it is a threaded one.

Oh

Quoted message said:

I didn't realize that my bike is already so old. Do you have any input?

Eric

If the bike definitely has a threaded headset, it's gonna be a 1 inch (as far as I know - never
heard of bigger than that coming threaded - anyone?).

<snip>

There were/are threaded headsets in sizes larger than 1 inch. 1 1/8 Avenger (Tioga), and 1 1/4
Evolution (Fisher) were very common in the late 80's and early 90's. As threadless systems began to
take over the lines, 1 1/8 threaded continued to be used ... but each year they were spec'd on lower
price point bicycles. 1 1/8 threaded headsets remained relatively common for quite some time in some
markets, like (unsuspended) tandems.

If the original poster has a 1/18 threaded headset, and wants to change out the fork for a newer
model, then he is going to need: A new threadless headset, a new stem, and a new fork. If the bike
is from 1996 then it was probably designed for a fork with ~63mm of travel. If he sticks to a 80mm
travel fork, he will most likely not have any handling problem. Funny thing about the increase in
overall travel ... as travel has increased so has sag.

R

Eric Mok said:

I have a 96' Kona Kula that equipped with old style threaded headset, stem and suspension fork. Is
it possible to replace all these components to threadless counterpart without replacing my frame
as well?

My '94 Marin had a 1 1/8" threaded headset; don't know about the Konas. If your headset is that
size, its not too terribly difficult to replace all that stuff.

If you have a cantilever brake, it'll have to go as well (the new forks don't have hangers). This
also means you either have to replace the brake lever (and possibly shifter if its all one piece),
or get one of those cam things to make a v-brake work with an old lever (though they seem like a
jury-rig to me and I'm not sure I'd want one on a front brake).

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I think I have an 1" fork and threaded headset. Do I have to take out the fork to measure it?

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Eric Mok <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Do you imply that it is IMPOSSIBLE (or impractical) to fit an 1-1/8" threadless headset and fork
in my existing frame?

Does your existing frame have a 1 inch headset, or a 1-1/8 inch? You can tell by measuring the
steerer tube on your existing fork - if it's an inch in diameter, you are outa luck for fitting a
1-1/8" (IMPOSSIBLE), if the steerer tube has a diameter of 1-1/8", then you will have no bother.

Shaun aRe - Size matters.

Eric Mok said:

I think I have an 1" fork and threaded headset. Do I have to take out the fork to measure it?

If you're lucky, it'll have it printed somewhere on the headset, if not, yes, you'll have to pull
it apart. Alternatively, just take it in to your LBS - they'll be able to tell you just by
looking at it.

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"Eric Mok" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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I think I have an 1" fork and threaded headset. Do I have to take out the fork to measure it?

Just pull the stem. There should be a size stamped into the stem somewhere just below the minimum
insertion mark (not all companies mark there stems, but most). If it says 22.2 you have a 1" fork.
There are some other odd sized stems out there, 22.0 (left over french) and .833 (left over BMX),
but most mountain bikes with a 1" threaded fork will have a 22.2 stem.

If it says 25.4 you have a 1 1/8 fork. The O.D of the stem matches the
I.D. of the fork. A 1 1/8 threaded fork has an O.D of 1 1/8 but has an
J.D of 25.4 (1"😉.

R