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  1. They really want to seperate. Maybe they should let them.

    cp

  2. "crit pro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    They really want to seperate. Maybe they should let them.

    cp

    I wonder where Indurain stands on the issue.

  3. Sierraman said:

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    They really want to seperate. Maybe they should let them.

    cp

    I wonder where Indurain stands on the issue.

    He's always said he identifies with the area he came from, Navarre.

    I'm having trouble finding the exact quote, but when asked directly
    about this, he said "I am a man from Navarre" (to the best of my
    recollection).

    This article could probably help you out. The Indurain-specific
    stuff starts about halfway down or so:

    http://www.dailypeloton.com/spokes3.asp

    -Gerard

  4. "Gerard Lanois" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Sierraman" <[email hidden]> writes:

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    This article could probably help you out. The Indurain-specific
    stuff starts about halfway down or so:

    http://www.dailypeloton.com/spokes3.asp

    -Gerard

    Interesting...

    http://www.dailypeloton.com/spokes3.asp

    Indurain, remained however keen to avoid being brought into nationalist
    dialogue and debate. In June 1996 when asked about being Navarran he stated,
    "I was born here, I like this region and its customs, but I don't feel
    especially patriotic." On ETA activities he stated that, "ETA terrorists
    have the same lack of respect for life as any other group of delinquents
    have. The Basque Country is not the only place to have terrorists in that
    respect. What hurts is that human values have been cast aside." On politics
    in general Indurain claimed it did not interest him.

    Indurain thus, found himself part of a nationalist discourse that existed
    despite his opinions, but the media continued its subtle manipulation of the
    nationalist dialogue surrounding the sportsman. In 1996 the Spanish press
    and public awaited an historic sixth Tour de France victory. The Tour route
    passed through Indurain's hometown, Villava, on route to Pamplona. Ikurriñas
    dominated the route and especially the towns. The victory was not to be, but
    whilst ETA threatened to sabotage the Tour and set off bombs in Pamplona,
    the Madrid based sports daily, Marca failed incredibly to picture a single
    Ikurriña in its extensive coverage. Conversely, Meta 2 Mil, a Basque based
    journal succeeded, as did most of the international press, in showing the
    mass of Basque flags.

  5. "Gerard Lanois" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I'm having trouble finding the exact quote, but when asked directly
    about this, he said "I am a man from Navarre" (to the best of my
    recollection).


    I remember an interview where he was asked "Do you consider yourself Basque
    or Spanish?" (not something a Spanish or Basque journalist would ask) and he
    answered "I am from Navarra" which says it all, if you know anything.

  6. Geraard Spergen said:

    "Gerard Lanois" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I'm having trouble finding the exact quote, but when asked directly
    about this, he said "I am a man from Navarre" (to the best of my
    recollection).


    I remember an interview where he was asked "Do you consider yourself Basque
    or Spanish?" (not something a Spanish or Basque journalist would ask) and he
    answered "I am from Navarra" which says it all, if you know anything.

    That's exactly the interview I was thinking of. Couldn't find it
    anywhere.

    Nice play on words for the name, by the way.

    -Lemurg Rammont

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    "Gerard Lanois" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I remember an interview where he was asked "Do you consider yourself Basque
    or Spanish?" (not something a Spanish or Basque journalist would ask) and he
    answered "I am from Navarra" which says it all, if you know anything.

    yeah. it says he's basque, for all intensive purposes, seeing as
    navarra/iruña is the historic capital of the basque country.

  8. On 12/05/2004 02:09 AM, in article
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    I remember an interview where he was asked "Do you consider yourself Basque
    or Spanish?" (not something a Spanish or Basque journalist would ask) and he
    answered "I am from Navarra" which says it all, if you know anything.

    yeah. it says he's basque, for all intensive purposes, seeing as
    navarra/iruña is the historic capital of the basque country.

    Interestingly, only the Basques claim that Navarre is part of the Basque
    country ... Navarrans think of themselves as Navarrans, not Basques.

    And it's "for all intents and purposes", not "for all intensive purposes"
    ....

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    Interestingly, only the Basques claim that Navarre is part of the


    Basque

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    country ... Navarrans think of themselves as Navarrans, not Basques.

    Do you know anyone from navarra/iruña? Have you ever been there, and
    going for San Fermin to get drunk and gored by a bull doesn't count? If
    you have then perhaps you would know that there are plenty of people
    from there who consider themselves basque, specifically those who live
    in the northern, mountainous areas. i'll grant you the fact that in the
    southern parts that my not be the case.

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