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  1. After having a few incidents of foot slipping off pedal on yesterdays 35
    mile cycle (my poor bum muscles!!!) I think it's time to go for some sort
    of SPD pedal.

    I currently have a pair of Specialized Taho MTB shoes according to the
    Specialized website they have a 2 bolt spd cleat pattern so I assume any
    spd pedal would work?

    Any thoughts on any of these?

    FPD Duo Single sided spd pedal:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360015711

    Wellgo WPD982 SPD Pedals:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360015711

    Shimano M424 SPD Pedal:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360015711

    Any other suggestions?

    Thanks in advance

    --
    Brian

  2. Brian said:


    Any thoughts on any of these?

    FPD Duo Single sided spd pedal:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360015711

    Wellgo WPD982 SPD Pedals:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360015711

    Shimano M424 SPD Pedal:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360015711

    Any other suggestions?

    My experience, for SPD stick with Shimano. They work whereas some of
    the lookalikes don't very well.

    Tony

  3. Brian <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    After having a few incidents of foot slipping off pedal on yesterdays
    35 mile cycle (my poor bum muscles!!!) I think it's time to go for
    some sort of SPD pedal.

    I currently have a pair of Specialized Taho MTB shoes according to the
    Specialized website they have a 2 bolt spd cleat pattern so I assume
    any spd pedal would work?

    Any thoughts on any of these?

    FPD Duo Single sided spd pedal:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360015711

    Ooops: try http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5300003804

    Quoted message said:


    Wellgo WPD982 SPD Pedals:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360015711

    try http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360006644

    Quoted message said:

    Shimano M424 SPD Pedal:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360015711

    try http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=4000000481

    It would be quite difficult using a Surly Fixxer Converter as a pedal!

    :-)

    --
    Brian

  4. in message <[email hidden]>, Brian

    (') said:

    After having a few incidents of foot slipping off pedal on yesterdays
    35 mile cycle (my poor bum muscles!!!) I think it's time to go for
    some sort of SPD pedal.

    I currently have a pair of Specialized Taho MTB shoes according to the
    Specialized website they have a 2 bolt spd cleat pattern so I assume
    any spd pedal would work?

    Any thoughts on any of these?

    FPD Duo Single sided spd pedal:

    Wellgo WPD982 SPD Pedals:

    Shimano M424 SPD Pedal:

    My partner uses the Shimanos; they're OK. I have a pair of FPD double
    sided on one of my bikes; they're OK too. Not brilliant but perfectly
    OK.

    It's worth pointing out that Time ATAC, Speedplay Frog, and Crank
    Brothers Eggbeater pedal systems (and possibly some others) all use the
    same bolt pattern. Personally I now have ATACs on my favourite off-road
    bike, and find them greatly superior to SPDs. They're much easier to
    get into (and out of), have better float, and clear mud better.

    --
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    twitching, but resurrection is not an option - unless Satan
    chucks them out of Hell as too objectionable even for him.

  5. Brian said:

    After having a few incidents of foot slipping off pedal on yesterdays 35
    mile cycle (my poor bum muscles!!!) I think it's time to go for some sort
    of SPD pedal.

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Any other suggestions?

    Thanks in advance


    The 'compromise' PD-M324s, means you can also pop to the shops. I like 'em.

  6. "Call me Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The standard recommendation for good starter spd's are Shimano M520's

    My reccomendation too.

    Pete

  7. On 23 Jan 2005 09:10:46 GMT, Brian <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I currently have a pair of Specialized Taho MTB shoes according to the
    Specialized website they have a 2 bolt spd cleat pattern so I assume
    any spd pedal would work?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    FPD Duo Single sided spd pedal:


    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5300003804

    The group discussed these pedals in October. See here:

    http://tinyurl.com/4n2df

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Wellgo WPD982 SPD Pedals:


    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360006644

    Dunno, never tried those. I did once own a pair of wellgo single sided
    road spd's, they were fine until they self destructed after about 4
    months of use.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Shimano M424 SPD Pedal:


    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=4000000481

    I'd choose Shimano spd's every time, although, I'd also suggest you go
    the whole hog and jump straight to double sided spd's without the
    cage/platform. You don't need it.

    The standard recommendation for good starter spd's are Shimano M520's
    from CycleXpress:

    http://www.cyclexpress.co.uk/products/M520_SPD_Pedals_169.asp

    Excellent pedals at less than 20 quid with free postage. Bargain.

    --

    Call me "Bob"

    "More oneness, less categories,
    Open hearts, no strategies"

    Email address is spam trapped, to reply directly remove the beverage.

  8. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:31:32 +0100, Tosspot <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    The 'compromise' PD-M324s, means you can also pop to the shops. I like 'em.

    You can pop to the shops with pure spd pedals (without the
    platform/cage) anyway. The spd cleats sit within the sole of most
    shoes so they don't interfere at all with wandering around Tesco.

    --

    Call me "Bob"

    "More oneness, less categories,
    Open hearts, no strategies"

    Email address is spam trapped, to reply directly remove the beverage.

  9. Call me Bob said:

    I'd choose Shimano spd's every time, although, I'd also suggest you go
    the whole hog and jump straight to double sided spd's without the
    cage/platform. You don't need it.

    Not sure about going the whole hog with double sided spds, I'd rather have
    single sided spds, which will give me the choice of footwear, cycling
    shoes or walking boots for very very wet / muddy conditions or a cycling
    / hiking trip.

    Quoted message said:

    The standard recommendation for good starter spd's are
    Shimano M520's
    from CycleXpress:

    http://www.cyclexpress.co.uk/products/M520_SPD_Pedals_169.asp

    Excellent pedals at less than 20 quid with free postage. Bargain.

    These do look like good pedals, but the lack of cage is concerning...

    --
    Brian

  10. Brian Innes said:
    Quoted message said:

    The standard recommendation for good starter spd's are
    Shimano M520's
    from CycleXpress:

    http://www.cyclexpress.co.uk/products/M520_SPD_Pedals_169.asp

    Excellent pedals at less than 20 quid with free postage. Bargain.

    These do look like good pedals, but the lack of cage is concerning...

    They are great pedals. If you _really_ need a cage, then get a small
    piece of plywood, screw a spare cleat to the bottom and varnish it.
    (Subsitute metal for wood if you are handy at metalwork.)

    When you want flats, clip your panels in. Unclip them for "dedicated" rides.

    Above all, I would recommend avoiding FPDs like the plague. Given you
    can buy the "genuine article" for a few pounds more, you're better off
    with the M520s.

    Jon

  11. Call me Bob said:

    On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:31:32 +0100, Tosspot <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    The 'compromise' PD-M324s, means you can also pop to the shops. I like 'em.

    You can pop to the shops with pure spd pedals (without the
    platform/cage) anyway. The spd cleats sit within the sole of most
    shoes so they don't interfere at all with wandering around Tesco.

    Not with my shoes they dont. OK, I do agree that you can ride with
    shoes on SPDs if you *really* want, but I liked the flexibility.

  12. Brian composed the following;:

    Quoted message said:

    Any other suggestions?

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=4000000481

    Shimano M324 Combination Pedal

    What I now use, and would recommend if you don't always 'get dressed' to
    go cycling and just need the bike to pop to somewhere quickly. Can be
    used with any footwear, including wellies, horse riding boots etc .. 😉

    --
    Paul ...
    http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
    (8(!) Homer Rules ... 😉
    "A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."

  13. Paul - censored said:

    Brian composed the following;:

    Quoted message said:

    Any other suggestions?

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=4000000481

    Shimano M324 Combination Pedal

    What I now use, and would recommend if you don't always 'get dressed' to
    go cycling and just need the bike to pop to somewhere quickly. Can be
    used with any footwear, including wellies, horse riding boots etc .. 😉

    These look the business. I'm hoping to do some cycling camping / walking
    in the summer so the option of using summer hike boots on the bike is a
    good thing.

    These are a possibility...

    cheers

    --
    Brian

  14. "Brian Innes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Call me Bob said:

    I'd choose Shimano spd's every time, although, I'd also suggest you go
    the whole hog and jump straight to double sided spd's without the
    cage/platform. You don't need it.

    Not sure about going the whole hog with double sided spds, I'd rather have
    single sided spds, which will give me the choice of footwear, cycling
    shoes or walking boots for very very wet / muddy conditions or a cycling

    FWIW when I decided to try SPDs I started with single sided. Although I'm
    used to toe clips I just couldn't get the hang of flipping them to SPD side.
    After a couple of weeks of faffing around I bought a pair of double sided
    SPDs. No probs, took to them like a duck to water.
    Toby

  15. Brian Innes composed the following;:

    Quoted message said:
    Paul - censored said:

    Brian composed the following;:

    Quoted message said:

    Any other suggestions?

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=4000000481

    Shimano M324 Combination Pedal

    What I now use, and would recommend if you don't always 'get
    dressed' to go cycling and just need the bike to pop to somewhere
    quickly. Can be used with any footwear, including wellies, horse
    riding boots etc .. 😉

    These look the business. I'm hoping to do some cycling camping /
    walking in the summer so the option of using summer hike boots on the
    bike is a good thing.

    These are a possibility...

    cheers

    No worries. IMHO these are the best combination, not least 'cos of the
    metal cage flat side that I can file to slightly sharper points for
    better grip with flat-soled boots and shoes. YMMV 😉

    --
    Paul ...
    http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
    (8(!) Homer Rules ... 😉
    "A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."

  16. Brian Innes of said:

    Not sure about going the whole hog with double sided spds, I'd rather have
    single sided spds, which will give me the choice of footwear, cycling
    shoes or walking boots for very very wet / muddy conditions or a cycling
    / hiking trip.

    Single sided mean you have to fiddle around finding which side of the pedal
    you have and doing that annoying flip, whether using your SPDs or not. I
    find this *very* annoying. Especially if you are cycling on something less
    smooth than roads - there's never a flat easy bit to coast on while doing
    the flip. Instead get the M424 combination pedals Paul recommended. Just
    jump on and ride, whether with SPDs or ordinary shoes. The platform will
    support an ordinary shoe fine for a while. It bites into the foot a bit
    eventually; I use mine without SPDs for up to half an hour. You can get
    boot style shoes with clips.
    --
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    merely rearranging their prejudices. - William James
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  17. In news:[email hidden],
    Tony Raven <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    My experience, for SPD stick with Shimano. They work whereas some of
    the lookalikes don't very well.

    My mountain bike has some excellent Ritchey ones which are old, but look
    exactly like these Wellgo WPD801 ones.

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=5360006644

    I've been a lot happier with these than my Shimano ones on the other bike.
    But the Shimanos are more of a known quantity, I agree.

    A

  18. "Brian Innes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Not sure about going the whole hog with double sided spds, I'd rather have
    single sided spds, which will give me the choice of footwear, cycling
    shoes or walking boots for very very wet / muddy conditions or a cycling
    / hiking trip.

    I've been using double side Shimano spds for over 12 years quite happily,
    notwithstanding mud clogging on the older versions. I bought a pair of
    single sided A515's for a road bike, mistake! They're a real ball-ache to
    flip and engage, far more so than the Looks I've used, just what you don't
    want when trying to make smart progress from a road junction for instance.
    I must say I like Jon Seniors idea of creating your own platform.

    Pete

  19. Brian said:

    I currently have a pair of Specialized Taho MTB shoes according to the
    Specialized website they have a 2 bolt spd cleat pattern so I assume any
    spd pedal would work?

    Should do, but personally I prefer (and suggest) the non-SPD Time ATAC
    family. The cleats will go in the same shoes as SPuD cleats so that's
    not a worry. While at the CTCS AGM on Saturday someone looking over the
    8 Freight noticed my ATACs and said he used them too as he found them
    altogether better than SPuDs: they're simpler, no faffing about with
    tension adjustment, a cleaner design and less susceptible to rattling
    cleats as they get worn, you can get in to them at any point along the
    bar, rather than a single spot and they have proper lateral float too
    (SPuDs only have rotational float, which ATACs still do at least as well).

    Cost a little more, but IMHO a better product.

    If you want a pedal you can use in Other Shoes they now do a version
    with an extended platform, but it still has a mech on both sides.

    Pete.
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  20. Steph Peters said:

    Single sided mean you have to fiddle around finding which side of the
    pedal you have and doing that annoying flip, whether using your SPDs
    or not. I find this *very* annoying. Especially if you are cycling
    on something less smooth than roads - there's never a flat easy bit
    to coast on while doing the flip.

    It's actually trivially easy if you have the technique, and you do not
    have to coast. Firstly, if your cleated foot finds the flat side of the
    pedal it is not an emergency. You can cycle quite happily like this for
    as long as you need to - you're just not clipped in. When you're ready
    to change sides you don't have to flip or fiddle at all. Simply take
    your foot off the pedal at the bottom of the stroke and put it back on
    at the top. Do not bother looking down or trying to feel for the clip.
    The pedal will be the right way round. Click in and ride away.
    --
    Dave...

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