"SLAVE of THE STATE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Amit my reaction had nothing to do with fighting doping, as such. The
State has little, to no place inside humans, bodies, period. This
isn't even the State.
That is correct, it isn't the state: the riders are not coerced into
riding.
Playing pretend for a moment by assuming that professional cycling is
an open market free of the distortions of guvmint, whose rights have
been violated?
I mean, if participation in a particular open market is by consent,
then by what reasoning can a rider complain? They consented to the
rules.
Under (natural) rights doctrine, the only rights you can not waive
away by consent are inalienable rights. What inalienable right has
been consented away? If they don't want their whereabouts known, or
take dope tests, they simply do something other than race a bike. No
one is forcing them to race a bike.
(I'm talking actual (natural) rights, not goofy-ass euro-trash notions
of "rights," like a "right to work." The difference between actual
rights and powers is often exposed by the "duty-to-perform" test. If
the law/rule imposes a duty-to-perform (on others), then it is a
power, not a right. If the rule/law is a restraint on behavior,
rather than a duty-to-perform, then the rule/law _may_ be a protection
of (negative) actual rights. The "negative" comes from the fact that
it creates a rule of restraint, rather than duty-to-perform, which is
a "positive."😉
While I'm half in your camp I'm also half in Bill's. I think that if they
race bicycles that they ought to submit to any tests they want to make
BEFORE, DURING OR AFTER THE RACE at the race site. I do not believe that
they ought to be able to turn up on your doorstep and demand that you be
there and also that you submit to poking and prodding while you may be about
to go on a date etc.
What this means is that they have to develop REAL tests for finding drug use
and not the phony [censored] they're often using today such as measuring
testosterone/epitestosterone ratios and if they don't like that switching to
a variable standard of isotope testing.
It should be remembered that the standard not only changes from continent to
continent depending upon the DIET of the athlete but also from individual to
individual for the same reasons.
The fact is that Floyd's initial tests were over the UCI standard of 4:1
which was a phony standard designed to cause more testing. The medical
community recognizes up to 6:1 as being the high side of NORMAL for 99% of
the male population.
What is even more surprising is that Floyd's initial test was only 5.6:1 and
the second test on the same sample was 11:1. This demonstrated beyond a
shadow of a doubt that there was a contaminant, probably a bacteria, in the
sample that was consuming the testosterone. Moreover the ratios were NOT
caused by higher than normal testosterone but LOWER than normal
epitestosterone in the sample. Another sign of a contaminant.
The French lab that completed the isotope tests demonstrated a level of
incompetence not just in Floyd's tests but many other tests as well.
So this entire system of dope testing needs to be completely revamped from
top to bottom.