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Wayne Boatwright said:

"It's a fairly general knowledge that USA have their own standards for
everything, they have their own sports, their own measuring system with
inch, feet, miles, their own standards for using torture, for using
violence to solve problems, their own kind of "democracy" (plutocratic
corporativism), their own standards for gender roles and religion,
their own standards for doing international politics (sabotage UN and
rule the world alone), their own system for time, the AM/PM system,
etc.

Fortunately they are only 6% of the world's population and can simply be
ignored."

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FWIW, if your a non-USian and feel this way, you can surely go to hell!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________

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Popie-In-The-Bowl

I Dunno. It's pretty accurate. It's "terrorism" if somebody else does
it, but it's "protecting freedom" if we do it. We are the hypocrites
and laughingstocks of the world, and it's embarassing. I just hope
people in other parts of the world realize that not all Americans are
Sheeple.

-L.

Wayne Boatwright said:

"It's a fairly general knowledge that USA have their own standards for
everything, they have their own sports, their own measuring system with
inch, feet, miles, their own standards for using torture, for using
violence to solve problems, their own kind of "democracy" (plutocratic
corporativism), their own standards for gender roles and religion,
their own standards for doing international politics (sabotage UN and
rule the world alone), their own system for time, the AM/PM system,
etc.

Fortunately they are only 6% of the world's population and can simply be
ignored."

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FWIW, if your a non-USian and feel this way, you can surely go to hell!

Well, Wayne. It's pretty accurate except for the last line. The US did
commit to the SIM (metric) measurement back in the early 70s and then backed
out because of corporate whining, and your liquid measures do vary from the
old Imperial system. Your government does have a long history of backing
various tyrannical governments while espousing rhetoric about democracy. The
invasion of Iraq did subvert the UN, and look at the mess it created there.
Rather than just suggesting that anyone who agrees with the comment can go
to hell, you might have tried to present an intelligent argument about how
the comment was inaccurate.

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
| "It's a fairly general knowledge that USA have their own standards for
| everything, they have their own sports, their own measuring system with
| inch, feet, miles, their own standards for using torture, for using
| violence to solve problems, their own kind of "democracy" (plutocratic
| corporativism), their own standards for gender roles and religion,
| their own standards for doing international politics (sabotage UN and
| rule the world alone), their own system for time, the AM/PM system,
| etc.
|
| Fortunately they are only 6% of the world's population and can simply be
| ignored."
|
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
| FWIW, if your a non-USian and feel this way, you can surely go to hell!
|
I usually leave these things alone, but... Is there a logical reason for
bringing this into this newsgroup? OR.... did you get up on the wrong side
of the bed? have a fight with someone and need a place to vent? perhaps
you just feel like stirring the pot? If the first.. go back to bed and get
up again.. if the next.. vent to the person you are angry with.. if the
last.. go make spaghetti sauce.

Debbie

On Wed 12 Oct 2005 03:20:15a, -L. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

"It's a fairly general knowledge that USA have their own standards for
everything, they have their own sports, their own measuring system with
inch, feet, miles, their own standards for using torture, for using
violence to solve problems, their own kind of "democracy" (plutocratic
corporativism), their own standards for gender roles and religion, their
own standards for doing international politics (sabotage UN and rule the
world alone), their own system for time, the AM/PM system, etc.

Fortunately they are only 6% of the world's population and can simply be
ignored."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

FWIW, if your a non-USian and feel this way, you can surely go to hell!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿* _____________________________

http://tinypic.com/dzijap.jpg

Popie-In-The-Bowl

I Dunno. It's pretty accurate. It's "terrorism" if somebody else does
it, but it's "protecting freedom" if we do it. We are the hypocrites
and laughingstocks of the world, and it's embarassing. I just hope
people in other parts of the world realize that not all Americans are
Sheeple.

-L.

Yes, it is pretty accurate. What pisses me off is the same people with
this attitude are only too happy to have us fight their wars, eat our food,
take whatever support we offer, and then have the never to ask for more.

How is it that they don't ignore us when they come running with their hands
out?

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________

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Meet Mr. Bailey

On Wed 12 Oct 2005 03:42:08a, Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

"It's a fairly general knowledge that USA have their own standards for
everything, they have their own sports, their own measuring system with
inch, feet, miles, their own standards for using torture, for using
violence to solve problems, their own kind of "democracy" (plutocratic
corporativism), their own standards for gender roles and religion,
their own standards for doing international politics (sabotage UN and
rule the world alone), their own system for time, the AM/PM system,
etc.

Fortunately they are only 6% of the world's population and can simply
be ignored."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

FWIW, if your a non-USian and feel this way, you can surely go to hell!

Well, Wayne. It's pretty accurate except for the last line. The US did
commit to the SIM (metric) measurement back in the early 70s and then
backed out because of corporate whining, and your liquid measures do
vary from the old Imperial system. Your government does have a long
history of backing various tyrannical governments while espousing
rhetoric about democracy. The invasion of Iraq did subvert the UN, and
look at the mess it created there. Rather than just suggesting that
anyone who agrees with the comment can go to hell, you might have tried
to present an intelligent argument about how the comment was inaccurate.

I won't deny that it's pretty accurate. What galls me is the same people
running to us with their hands out the minute anything goes wrong where
they live. Makes me think of "bite the hand that feeds them". Yes, they
can go to hell.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________

http://tinypic.com/eikz78.jpg

Meet Mr. Bailey

On Wed 12 Oct 2005 04:09:47a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
| "It's a fairly general knowledge that USA have their own standards for
| everything, they have their own sports, their own measuring system with
| inch, feet, miles, their own standards for using torture, for using
| violence to solve problems, their own kind of "democracy" (plutocratic
| corporativism), their own standards for gender roles and religion,
| their own standards for doing international politics (sabotage UN and
| rule the world alone), their own system for time, the AM/PM system,
| etc.
|
| Fortunately they are only 6% of the world's population and can simply
| be ignored."
|
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
| FWIW, if your a non-USian and feel this way, you can surely go to hell!
|
I usually leave these things alone, but... Is there a logical reason for
bringing this into this newsgroup? OR.... did you get up on the wrong
side of the bed? have a fight with someone and need a place to vent?
perhaps you just feel like stirring the pot? If the first.. go back to
bed and get up again.. if the next.. vent to the person you are angry
with.. if the last.. go make spaghetti sauce.

Debbie

Take your pick. :-) What really gets to me is the very same people running
to us for help when they need it. We're good enough to fight their
battles, heal their wounds, and feed them, but otherwise we're only good
enough for their criticism. If we're to be ignored, then let them help
themselves and stew in their own juices. I wouldn't walk a step to pull
someone with that attitude out of a ditch.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________

http://tinypic.com/eikz78.jpg

Meet Mr. Bailey

Wayne Boatwright said:

Quoted message said:

Well, Wayne. It's pretty accurate except for the last line. The US did
commit to the SIM (metric) measurement back in the early 70s and then
backed out because of corporate whining, and your liquid measures do
vary from the old Imperial system. Your government does have a long
history of backing various tyrannical governments while espousing
rhetoric about democracy. The invasion of Iraq did subvert the UN, and
look at the mess it created there. Rather than just suggesting that
anyone who agrees with the comment can go to hell, you might have tried
to present an intelligent argument about how the comment was inaccurate.

I won't deny that it's pretty accurate. What galls me is the same people
running to us with their hands out the minute anything goes wrong where
they live. Makes me think of "bite the hand that feeds them". Yes, they
can go to hell.

That galls you. The US is a major economic power with a lot of people and a lot
of money. Yet, per capita contribution to aid is a fraction of what people and
governments of some of the other industrialized countries give. You should do
a little research to find out how much others are giving compared to the US. I
am not saying that you need to be embarrassed about it, because a lot of aid
money, IMO, just goes down the drain or to corrupt officials.

As for fighting wars.... WW I you entered late. It was almost over by the time
American soldiers arrived and they weren't all that effective. They helped to
tip the balance in favour of the Allies. In WW II, you were late again. The
war had been going on for more than 2 years before the US got involved.
Vietnam? Why you ever got involved in that was a major puzzle. Not learning
from that mistake, you went into Iraq, and getting rid of the WMDs proved to be
a much easier task than you had thought, since there turned out not to be any.
Nobody asked you to go. Not many wanted you to go. You dislodged an evil
dictator there, only to cause utter chaos in the country. Meanwhile, your
government cozzies up with the House of Saud, one of the most repressive
governments in the world.

The US has a long history of wanting to call the shots and then reneging on its
commitments. The sad fact is that nobody seems to be able to count on your
help or your promises. You only do what you want to do, and that is more often
than not dictated by corporate lobbying.

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
| On Wed 12 Oct 2005 04:09:47a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking:
|
| >
| > "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| > news:[email hidden]...
| >| "It's a fairly general knowledge that USA have their own standards for
| >| everything, they have their own sports, their own measuring system with
| >| inch, feet, miles, their own standards for using torture, for using
| >| violence to solve problems, their own kind of "democracy" (plutocratic
| >| corporativism), their own standards for gender roles and religion,
| >| their own standards for doing international politics (sabotage UN and
| >| rule the world alone), their own system for time, the AM/PM system,
| >| etc.
| >|
| >| Fortunately they are only 6% of the world's population and can simply
| >| be ignored."
| >|
|

Quoted message said:

| ------------------------------------------------------------------------

| >|
| >| FWIW, if your a non-USian and feel this way, you can surely go to hell!
| >|
| > I usually leave these things alone, but... Is there a logical reason for
| > bringing this into this newsgroup? OR.... did you get up on the wrong
| > side of the bed? have a fight with someone and need a place to vent?
| > perhaps you just feel like stirring the pot? If the first.. go back to
| > bed and get up again.. if the next.. vent to the person you are angry
| > with.. if the last.. go make spaghetti sauce.
| >
| > Debbie
|
| Take your pick. :-) What really gets to me is the very same people
running
| to us for help when they need it. We're good enough to fight their
| battles, heal their wounds, and feed them, but otherwise we're only good
| enough for their criticism. If we're to be ignored, then let them help
| themselves and stew in their own juices. I wouldn't walk a step to pull
| someone with that attitude out of a ditch.
|
It is human nature. Just look around the neighbourhood or your family. The
difference is that it is on a national level so looks bigger. Everyone is
guilty.. even the good ol' USA. How many times have people from other
countries heard that no-one ever helps the US? Meanwhile they have sent
assistance over and over again.. and other times offers have been refused.
The US is just bigger and louder.. as Pierre Eliot Trudeau once said.. it is
like sleeping next to a giant.. when they roll over you notice.

Debbie

Debbie

Debbie said:

It is human nature. Just look around the neighbourhood or your family. The
difference is that it is on a national level so looks bigger. Everyone is
guilty.. even the good ol' USA. How many times have people from other
countries heard that no-one ever helps the US? Meanwhile they have sent
assistance over and over again.. and other times offers have been refused.
The US is just bigger and louder.. as Pierre Eliot Trudeau once said.. it is
like sleeping next to a giant.. when they roll over you notice.

Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how
friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected
by every twitch and grunt..

* March 25, 1969, Addressing the Press Club in Washington, D.C.

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Wed 12 Oct 2005 04:09:47a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"It's a fairly general knowledge that USA have their own standards
for everything, they have their own sports, their own measuring
system with inch, feet, miles, their own standards for using
torture, for using violence to solve problems, their own kind of
"democracy" (plutocratic corporativism), their own standards for
gender roles and religion,
their own standards for doing international politics (sabotage UN
and rule the world alone), their own system for time, the AM/PM
system,
etc.

Fortunately they are only 6% of the world's population and can
simply
be ignored."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

FWIW, if your a non-USian and feel this way, you can surely go to
hell!

I usually leave these things alone, but... Is there a logical reason
for bringing this into this newsgroup? OR.... did you get up on
the wrong side of the bed? have a fight with someone and need a
place to vent? perhaps you just feel like stirring the pot? If the
first.. go back to bed and get up again.. if the next.. vent to the
person you are angry with.. if the last.. go make spaghetti sauce.

Debbie

Take your pick. :-) What really gets to me is the very same people
running to us for help when they need it. We're good enough to fight
their battles, heal their wounds, and feed them, but otherwise we're
only good enough for their criticism. If we're to be ignored, then
let them help themselves and stew in their own juices. I wouldn't
walk a step to pull someone with that attitude out of a ditch.

I would suggest that you go and ask the survivors of the contra war in
Nicaragua what they think about the 'help' the USA contributed.
Further I suggest you go through the same exercise with the survivors of the
civil war in El Savalvador.
There are others but no need to post an extensive list.
Your position that the USA is all sweetness and light and *any* criticism
comes from ungrateful [censored] just doesn't stand up.
Amazingly, with the exception of a handful of zealots who think they have
eternity on their side, most of the world's citizens do not hate Americans.
Their attitude toward the American administration is an entirely different
matter.

Sincerely.
Ken.

Default User said:

Wonderful. Crybaby Wayne has apparently become jealous of the attention
Jimmy Tango is getting with his trolls, and wants to do one of his own.

Perfect.

Yeah, that was my take on it, too. No other reason to make such a post
in the first place. -aem

On Wed 12 Oct 2005 08:43:07a, Dean G. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

(directed at the original poster, not you Wayne...)

Quoted message said:

"It's a fairly general knowledge that USA have their own standards for
everything,

Yes we do ! The US is the greatest supplier of humanitarian aid around
the world. We have our own standards, and in many cases they are BETTER
standards.

Indeed, it is better to have your own standard than to mindlessly
adhere to someone else's standard.

Quoted message said:

they have their own sports,

How culturally bankrupt a nation must be NOT to have their own sports !

Quoted message said:

their own measuring system with inch, feet, miles,

I can deal with metric just fine. I guess intellectually challanged
people should stick to only one system for simplicity's sake.

Quoted message said:

their own standards for using torture,

A standard morally better than the vast majority of the world, although
it admittedly could use some improvement.

Quoted message said:

for using
violence to solve problems,

If you don't have a standard for using violence to solve problems, then
you are a fool. Contrary to what some may say, there are times when
violence does solve problems. If your standard is to never use
violence, that is fine, but that is a standard none the less.

Quoted message said:

their own kind of "democracy" (plutocratic corporativism),

Was it Churchill that once said that democracy was the worst kind of
government, except for all other kinds of government ?

Quoted message said:

their own standards for gender roles and religion,

Actually we allow a far greater range for both of the above than the
overwhelming vast majority of nations on this planet. Trying going to
Saudi Arabia and trying to be a gay christian ! Would they execute you
twice ? Such people are far safer in the US, as are pagans, bisexuals,
zoroastarians, hindus, transexuals, taoists, and many other people. Oh
yes, and by the way, we do allow women to work, vote, and drive. I am
in no way repentent about this.

Quoted message said:

their own standards for doing international politics (sabotage UN and
rule the world alone),

If by sabataging the UN you mean a tiny 6% of the world paying 22% of
their budget, then I agree. If by sabotage you mean providing 50% of
the funding when the organization began, then I agree.

Quoted message said:

their own system for time, the AM/PM system, etc.

Yes, ever since the Swiss started making watches, their watches have
always had 24 hour dials. No, wait....

Quoted message said:

Fortunately they are only 6% of the world's population and can simply be
ignored."

Yes, why don't you do that so your tiny intellect isn't challenged by
reality. The very fact that some bitter fool wrote this only shows that
they were unable to ignore the USA.

Dean G.

Very well said, Dean. Thank you.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

In article <[email hidden]>,

Wayne Boatwright said:

Yes, it is pretty accurate. What pisses me off is the same people with
this attitude are only too happy to have us fight their wars, eat our food,
take whatever support we offer, and then have the never to ask for more.

How is it that they don't ignore us when they come running with their hands
out?

And that most of Western Pacifism is only possible because they know
that the US will come and save the day if the excrement hits the fan.

Regards,
Ranee

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Dean G. said:

If by sabataging the UN you mean a tiny 6% of the world paying 22% of
their budget, then I agree. If by sabotage you mean providing 50% of
the funding when the organization began, then I agree.

I think hostility toward the UN would be cooled a bit if the votes
there were weighted so that they were comensurate with the contribution
given by that nation.

Regards,
Ranee

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Wayne Boatwright said:

"It's a fairly general knowledge that USA have their own standards for
everything, they have their own sports, their own measuring system with
inch, feet, miles, their own standards for using torture, for using
violence to solve problems, their own kind of "democracy" (plutocratic
corporativism), their own standards for gender roles and religion,
their own standards for doing international politics (sabotage UN and
rule the world alone), their own system for time, the AM/PM system,
etc.

Fortunately they are only 6% of the world's population and can simply be
ignored."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

FWIW, if your a non-USian and feel this way, you can surely go to hell!

defensive much?

--

saerah

"It's not a gimmick, it's an incentive."- asterbark, afca

aware of the manifold possibilities of the future

"I think there's a clause in the Shaman's and Jujumen's Local #57 Union
contract that they have to have reciprocity for each other's shop rules."
-König Prüß

On Wed 12 Oct 2005 11:12:50a, Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

I should have expected this reaction from most of you. I also expect
that any argument presented in defense of the US would similarly be
laughed at, ignored, or criticized.

That comment about how all non USians who believe it can surely go to
hell sounded more like the statement of a simpleton than a defence of
the US. On the contrary, it is self-righteous statements like that that
give rise to the article you quoted.

Quoted message said:

I didn't post the original quote to argue over, only to express my
reaction. Since I have already done that, I have nothing more to say on
the matter.

So, finding your comment absolutely indefensible, it is time to duck and
run?

I have neither a need to defend my comment nor to duck and run. I have an
opinion to which I am entitled and which I stated. I did not and do not
intend to argue any point.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Dean G. said:

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

their own measuring system with
inch, feet, miles,

I can deal with metric just fine. I guess intellectually challanged
people should stick to only one system for simplicity's sake.

I would think that having a standard for measurements would be a good thing.

--

saerah

"It's not a gimmick, it's an incentive."- asterbark, afca

aware of the manifold possibilities of the future

"I think there's a clause in the Shaman's and Jujumen's Local #57 Union
contract that they have to have reciprocity for each other's shop rules."
-König Prüß

Wayne Boatwright said:

Quoted message said:

So, finding your comment absolutely indefensible, it is time to duck and
run?

I have neither a need to defend my comment nor to duck and run. I have an
opinion to which I am entitled and which I stated. I did not and do not
intend to argue any point.

Everyone is entitled to their own stupid opinions, and some will be damned if
they are going to let the facts interfere.

sarah bennett said:

Dean G. said:

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

their own measuring system with
inch, feet, miles,

I can deal with metric just fine. I guess intellectually challanged
people should stick to only one system for simplicity's sake.

I would think that having a standard for measurements would be a good
thing.

I like the metric system for it's simple base 10 math.

Now if we could please have a world vote on which side of the street to
drive on? 😉

--
Andy
http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h