This explains the other place

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:21:58 +0100, "wafflycat"

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Article in New Scientist today. Seems those of us who exercise are likely to
have better brains in old age than the terminally unfit (well, that is
putting it in a small nutshell).

So that would make those of us who fit/are considering fitting
motors to bikes to help with hills, half brain dead? ;-)
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Wafflycat said:

Article in New Scientist today. Seems those of us who exercise are likely to
have better brains in old age than the terminally unfit (well, that is
putting it in a small nutshell).

Is that people who excercise are brainier, or people who are brainier
excercise?

buzz_ig said:

Wafflycat said:

Article in New Scientist today. Seems those of us who exercise are likely to
have better brains in old age than the terminally unfit (well, that is
putting it in a small nutshell).

Is that people who excercise are brainier, or people who are brainier
excercise?

Aliens only suck the brains out of couch potatoes.

R.

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Wafflycat said:

Article in New Scientist today. Seems those of us who exercise are likely
to
have better brains in old age than the terminally unfit (well, that is
putting it in a small nutshell).

Is that people who excercise are brainier, or people who are brainier
excercise?

In some of the research looked at, old sedentary mice begin to grow new
neurons and perform better on cognitive tests, so that would suggest it's
the exercise causing the brain development.

Cheers, helen s

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Article in New Scientist today. Seems those of us who exercise are likely
to have better brains in old age than the terminally unfit (well, that is
putting it in a small nutshell).

Habitual exercisers suffer less brain-tissue loss when they grow old than
less active people and elderly who are physically fit do better on
cognitive tests than those who are not physically fit.

I think my brain cell survival by biking is balanced by those killed off
by the beer!

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At 18:21:58 on 22/09/2005, wafflycat delighted uk.rec.cycling by announcing:

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I like the final quote of the article, from a psychologist who studies the
effect of the built environment on physical activity "The irony is that we
rely more and more on cars, use more labour-saving devices, and continue to
build sprawling communities that prevent people from walking even to local
shopping areas."

Eh? Do they build spiked pits, or stick snipers on the rooftops? HOw are
people 'prevented' from walking?

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At 18:21:58 on 22/09/2005, wafflycat delighted uk.rec.cycling by
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I like the final quote of the article, from a psychologist who studies
the
effect of the built environment on physical activity "The irony is that
we
rely more and more on cars, use more labour-saving devices, and continue
to
build sprawling communities that prevent people from walking even to
local
shopping areas."

Eh? Do they build spiked pits, or stick snipers on the rooftops? HOw are
people 'prevented' from walking?

Would you be happier if it was phrased 'that discourage people from
walking'?

Of course in the US it tends towards the 'prevent' - eg in some places
you'll get stopped by plod for walking, and often there's no suitable
pedestrian route.

cheers,
clive

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Of course in the US it tends towards the 'prevent' - eg in some places
you'll get stopped by plod for walking, and often there's no suitable
pedestrian route.

cheers,
clive

Back in my uni days, one of my tutors used to frequently tell us of his
holiday in the States where he went for a walk one day and was stopped by
police, as it was not the done thing to be walking and they thought he was a
criminal... he ended up at the local police station...

Cheers, helen s

At 20:15:58 on 23/09/2005, Clive George delighted uk.rec.cycling by
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At 18:21:58 on 22/09/2005, wafflycat delighted uk.rec.cycling by
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I like the final quote of the article, from a psychologist who studies
the effect of the built environment on physical activity "The irony is
that we rely more and more on cars, use more labour-saving devices,
and continue to build sprawling communities that prevent people from
walking even to local shopping areas."

Eh? Do they build spiked pits, or stick snipers on the rooftops? HOw are
people 'prevented' from walking?

Would you be happier if it was phrased 'that discourage people from
walking'?

No. Unless they line the streets with obstacles and rabid dogs?

If they mean to say 'encourage people to laze around' then they should just
say that. Of course, that would attach the responsibility to those poor
innocent members of the public who are being forced off their legs.

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At 18:21:58 on 22/09/2005, wafflycat delighted uk.rec.cycling by
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> I like the final quote of the article, from a psychologist who
> studies
> the effect of the built environment on physical activity "The irony
> is
> that we rely more and more on cars, use more labour-saving devices,
> and continue to build sprawling communities that prevent people from
> walking even to local shopping areas."

Eh? Do they build spiked pits, or stick snipers on the rooftops? HOw
are
people 'prevented' from walking?

Would you be happier if it was phrased 'that discourage people from
walking'?

No. Unless they line the streets with obstacles and rabid dogs?

Well, they are lining the streets with obstacles - they're those metal
objects zooming around. Kill a sight more people than rabid dogs too.

More seriously, the layouts referred to will have roads in the way - these
definitely form obstacles to pedestrians.
They will also make the environment(*) a less pleasant place - noisy, dirty,
percieved as unsafe.

I'm surprised you claim this isn't discouraging people from walking.

clive

(*) in the local sense.

Clive George said:

Of course in the US it tends towards the 'prevent' - eg in some places

Or the "sandwich shops" in the USA (there is/was a nice one in
Buffalo, NY) that sell 2' long subs filled with 2 layers of prime
steak and a few green bits for about 3 dollars that fill you up for a
day or so. And, if you eat a whole one it is very difficult to do
anything, let alone walk for a quite while afterwards. With "lunchtime
snacks" like that, it does explain the American physiology. Mine is
down to beer ;-)

I was only there for a fortnight, almost a decade ago now, but I
really do miss the American subs :-( Well, that and going to the
Airport Radisson with Canadian colleagues and insisting that the
American waiter provide vinegar to put on our "fries"/chips - for some
reason they hated that, so we kept on doing it ;-)

Seriously though, the "sprawling communities" was probably the
relevant bit - simply that everything (outside of major cities) is
AFAICT more spread out (greater land mass, lower population density,
etc.) with greater distances between home/work, home/shops, etc.
making it less practical to walk.

In UK towns/villages there tends to be a local, but over-priced,
"local shop"[1]. But, from the little I saw whilst over there, it was
not uncommon for such "local amenities" to be missing because
"everyone has a car and can drive to the nearest town".

[1] Although, those are under threat, or gone, in many places now.
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