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  1. I'm planning on making some cherry cordials today, but I only have unsweetened chocolate. I will
    sweeten the chocolate with sugar, but this will thicken it considerably, so it will not be pourable
    even when fully melted. What can I use to thin it so that it will still harden for use as coating
    chocolate; shortening, butter, something else? I know it would be easier to buy semisweet chocolate,
    but I'm trying to use what I already have.

    -Adam

  2. "Adam Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm planning on making some cherry cordials today, but I only have unsweetened chocolate. I
    will sweeten the chocolate with sugar, but this will thicken it considerably, so it will not
    be pourable even when fully melted. What can I use to thin it so that it will still harden for
    use as coating chocolate; shortening, butter, something else? I know it would be easier to buy
    semisweet chocolate, but I'm trying to use what I already have.

    I would recommend using cocoa butter.

  3. at Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:46:00 GMT in <YoUMb.45410$xy6.115590@attbi_s02>,
    [email hidden] (Adam Schwartz) wrote :

    Quoted message said:

    I'm planning on making some cherry cordials today, but I only have unsweetened chocolate. I
    will sweeten the chocolate with sugar, but this will thicken it considerably, so it will not be
    pourable even when fully melted. What can I use to thin it so that it will still harden for use
    as coating chocolate; shortening, butter, something else? I know it would be easier to buy
    semisweet chocolate, but I'm trying to use what I already have.


    You're in for an elaborate procedure, because in order to get the chocolate and the sugar to
    integrate smoothly and without ruining the texture, you'll have to use candymaking technique. If you
    expect granulated sugar to dissolve in melted chocolate you're in for a BIG surprise (and panic)
    because it won't. Rather, you will need to dissolve the sugar in some water, bring to a vigorous
    boil, then cook to hard-crack temperature. Then you'll need to stir it into the melted chocolate -
    and this could just as easily create problems because without very careful stirring the sugar is
    likely to solidify as it hits the much cooler chocolate, resulting in unsweetened chocolate with
    lumps of sugar in it. At lesser cooking degrees, it'll mix in slightly more smoothly with the
    chocolate, but the overall result will be soft, more like fudge.

    Using powdered sugar won't work, either, first, because the grind still isn't fine enough for the
    result to be silky smooth, and second, because it contains cornstarch which will turn the whole
    thing into a sticky, lumpy mess.

    Bottom line: you don't realize how very much easier it will be for you to buy semisweet chocolate.
    What you're proposing to take on takes expertise and practice to get right, and isn't worth the
    effort even then. It's always tempting to use what you already have, but there are times when you
    need to recognize that you're trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. There are things for
    which it doesn't pay to substitute and chocolate is one of them. The unsweetened chocolate will keep
    for a while. Use it in some other application another time.

    --
    Alex Rast [email hidden] (remove d., .7, not, and .NOSPAM to reply)

  4. Not sure what cherry cordials are but if you want to thin chocloate that will still harden (anything
    you add wil take longer to harden) would be thick cream (just a little). I just use the unsweetend
    chocolate but if you need it sweeter can you add the sugar to something else?

    "Adam Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YoUMb.45410$xy6.115590@attbi_s02...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm planning on making some cherry cordials today, but I only have unsweetened chocolate. I
    will sweeten the chocolate with sugar, but this will thicken it considerably, so it will not
    be pourable even when fully melted. What can I use to thin it so that it will still harden for
    use as coating chocolate; shortening, butter, something else? I know it would be easier to buy
    semisweet chocolate, but I'm trying to use what I already have.

    -Adam

  5. Adam Schwartz said:

    I'm planning on making some cherry cordials today, but I only have unsweetened chocolate. I
    will sweeten the chocolate with sugar, but this will thicken it considerably, so it will not be
    pourable even when fully melted. What can I use to thin it so that it will still harden for use
    as coating chocolate; shortening, butter, something else? I know it would be easier to buy
    semisweet chocolate, but I'm trying to use what I already have.

    Do let us know how this turns out. I never use bitter/unsweetened/baking chocolate for anything but
    recipes that call for it specifically.

  6. "Adam Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm planning on making some cherry cordials today, but I only have unsweetened chocolate. I
    will sweeten the chocolate with sugar, but this will thicken it considerably, so it will not
    be pourable even when fully melted. What can I use to thin it so that it will still harden for
    use as coating chocolate; shortening, butter, something else? I know it would be easier to buy
    semisweet chocolate, but I'm trying to use what I already have.

    -Adam


    Well, I went ahead and tried to make the chocolates using unsweetened chocolate, butter and
    sugar, and it pretty much went exactly as Alex stated in his reply. The chocolate tasted good,
    and it cooled solid, but the sugar did not dissolve, so the final product was grainy and
    maleable. The chocolates could not be unmolded, because the sugar interfered with the chocolates
    cohesiveness. I'm still glad I tried it, because I learned how not to make chocolates.

    -Adam

  7. "Adam Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm planning on making some cherry cordials today, but I only have unsweetened chocolate. I
    will sweeten the chocolate with sugar, but this will thicken it considerably, so it will not
    be pourable even when fully melted. What can I use to thin it so that it will still harden for
    use as coating chocolate; shortening, butter, something else? I know it would be easier to buy
    semisweet chocolate, but I'm trying to use what I already have.

    -Adam

    Good golly, Adam! Run, do not walk, to your nearest chocolate source and buy the right chocolate for
    the job. I'm pretty darn sure you will be disappointed with the results if you attempt to make
    cherry cordials with unsweetened chocolate that you've added sugar to yourself. First, sugar doesn't
    dissolve in melted chocolate....in order to get the sugar to dissolve you'd have to raise the temp
    of the chocolate past what I would consider burning, or at the very least, scorching the chocolate.
    Second, if you melted the sugar first, the sugar would most likely crystallize- at least in part-
    when you add it back to the chocolate because of the difference in temperature. Third, unless you're
    going to conch the chocolate yourself, which is very time consuming, you won't likely be very happy
    with the gritty grainy results. Get a good couverture chocolate, and you don't need to thin it. When
    tempered it will be the right consistency for dipping. In my experience, the darker the chocolate,
    the thinner the chocolate when melted. If you ever do want to thin chocolate, use a small amount of
    cocoa butter. Too much, and your chocolate will not set up hard. Get the real thing, and save the
    unsweetened for a buttercream or a flourless chocolate cake or some brownies.

    kimberly

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