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  1. I adore those great big Fordhook lima beans. Mom made them (when she
    finally discovered frozen veggies heheh) for us as teens. I'm mad for them
    and have been from the first time I tried one.

    My parents moved away 20 years ago. I was chatting with Mom the other day
    and she asked what I made for dinner. I told her about the pork steaks
    which were accompanied by a good serving of those Fordhook limas. She said,
    "Oh, I don't like those." But, but, Mom! You bought them all the time, and
    you ate them! She replied, "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh.
    What was it, a State Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that
    about her.

    I can't figure out why she didn't just make a small helping of something she
    *does* like for herself. We were teens; we would have understood some
    things you just don't care for. And no, it wasn't because she couldn't
    afford to buy an extra veggie to serve to herself. She and Dad love beets
    and knowing we didn't care for them she'd steam some broccoli (for example)
    when they wanted beets, just so we'd have a veggie we liked. But she didn't
    do that for herself; go figure.

    Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you simply never
    knew about?

    Jill

  2. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I adore those great big Fordhook lima beans. Mom made them (when she
    finally discovered frozen veggies heheh) for us as teens. I'm mad for


    them

    Quoted message said:

    and have been from the first time I tried one.

    My parents moved away 20 years ago. I was chatting with Mom the other day
    and she asked what I made for dinner. I told her about the pork steaks
    which were accompanied by a good serving of those Fordhook limas. She


    said,

    Quoted message said:

    "Oh, I don't like those." But, but, Mom! You bought them all the time,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    you ate them! She replied, "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh.
    What was it, a State Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that
    about her.

    I can't figure out why she didn't just make a small helping of something


    she

    Quoted message said:

    *does* like for herself. We were teens; we would have understood some
    things you just don't care for. And no, it wasn't because she couldn't
    afford to buy an extra veggie to serve to herself. She and Dad love beets
    and knowing we didn't care for them she'd steam some broccoli (for


    example)

    Quoted message said:

    when they wanted beets, just so we'd have a veggie we liked. But she


    didn't

    Quoted message said:

    do that for herself; go figure.

    Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you simply


    never

    Quoted message said:

    knew about?

    Jill

    Not sure if this qualifies, but my mother loves walnuts. When she was
    pregnant with me that was her biggest craving. Now I am a 'nut' freak - any
    and all nuts - with the exception of walnuts. I cannot stand them and can
    taste them immediately if they're in baking or cooking. Weird........

    Elaine

  3. jmcquown said:

    My parents moved away 20 years ago. I was chatting with Mom the other day
    and she asked what I made for dinner. I told her about the pork steaks
    which were accompanied by a good serving of those Fordhook limas. She said,
    "Oh, I don't like those." But, but, Mom! You bought them all the time, and
    you ate them! She replied, "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh.
    What was it, a State Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that
    about her.

    I can't figure out why she didn't just make a small helping of something she
    *does* like for herself. We were teens; we would have understood some
    things you just don't care for. And no, it wasn't because she couldn't
    afford to buy an extra veggie to serve to herself. She and Dad love beets
    and knowing we didn't care for them she'd steam some broccoli (for example)
    when they wanted beets, just so we'd have a veggie we liked. But she didn't
    do that for herself; go figure.


    I'm wondering why she bought them in the first place? Did
    she make them for your father? I can't imagine teenagers
    coming home and demanding lima beans for dinner, especially
    if they've never tasted them.

    Personally, I don't like big limas - but the small ones are
    okay and I really do like succotash.

    Quoted message said:

    Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you simply never
    knew about?

    No.

    sf

  4. sf said:
    jmcquown said:

    Fordhook limas. She said, "Oh, I don't like those." But, but,
    Mom! You bought them all the time, and you ate them! She replied,
    "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh. What was it, a State
    Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that about her.


    I'm wondering why she bought them in the first place? Did
    she make them for your father?

    I don't think he'd ever had that particular type before she brought them
    home that first time. I'd have to ask her, but she probably simply spotted
    this new thing in stock at the [military] commissary and decided to give
    them a try.

    I can't imagine teenagers

    Quoted message said:

    coming home and demanding lima beans for dinner, especially
    if they've never tasted them.

    We'd tasted the baby limas from cans. With those I was like, oh, okay.
    They weren't great but I'd never come home and request them. Then she
    started discovering frozen veggies (this was in the 1970's) and, and least
    to me, I found them much better than before! Mom wasn't big on using fresh
    veggies as a side dish (except perhaps baked potatoes).

    Quoted message said:

    Personally, I don't like big limas - but the small ones are
    okay and I really do like succotash.


    I don't recall her ever buying frozen baby limas, but I know they were
    available. <shrug>

    Jill

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you
    simply never knew about?

    No.

    sf

  5. On Sat 08 Jan 2005 01:51:14p, jmcquown tittered and giggled, and giggled
    and tittered, and finally blurted out...

    Quoted message said:
    sf said:
    jmcquown said:

    Fordhook limas. She said, "Oh, I don't like those." But, but,
    Mom! You bought them all the time, and you ate them! She replied,
    "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh. What was it, a State
    Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that about her.


    I'm wondering why she bought them in the first place? Did she make
    them for your father?

    I don't think he'd ever had that particular type before she brought them
    home that first time. I'd have to ask her, but she probably simply
    spotted this new thing in stock at the [military] commissary and decided
    to give them a try.

    I can't imagine teenagers

    Quoted message said:

    coming home and demanding lima beans for dinner, especially if they've
    never tasted them.

    We'd tasted the baby limas from cans. With those I was like, oh, okay.
    They weren't great but I'd never come home and request them. Then she
    started discovering frozen veggies (this was in the 1970's) and, and
    least to me, I found them much better than before! Mom wasn't big on
    using fresh veggies as a side dish (except perhaps baked potatoes).

    Quoted message said:

    Personally, I don't like big limas - but the small ones are
    okay and I really do like succotash.


    I don't recall her ever buying frozen baby limas, but I know they were
    available. <shrug>

    Jill

    I like the way forkhook's "pop" in the mouth when you bite into them.

    Wayne

  6. Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Sat 08 Jan 2005 01:51:14p, jmcquown tittered and giggled, and
    giggled and tittered, and finally blurted out...

    Quoted message said:
    sf said:

    On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:51:27 -0600, "jmcquown"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Fordhook limas. She said, "Oh, I don't like those." But, but,
    > Mom! You bought them all the time, and you ate them!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm wondering why she bought them in the first place? Did she make
    them for your father?

    I don't think he'd ever had that particular type before she brought
    them home that first time.

    Quoted message said:

    Personally, I don't like big limas - but the small ones are
    okay and I really do like succotash.


    I don't recall her ever buying frozen baby limas, but I know they
    were available. <shrug>

    Jill

    I like the way forkhook's "pop" in the mouth when you bite into them.

    Wayne

    Wayne, that's exactly what I love about Fordhooks! They are more... I think
    "substantial" is the word I'm looking for. 🙂

    Jill

  7. On Sat 08 Jan 2005 02:18:30p, jmcquown tittered and giggled, and giggled
    and tittered, and finally blurted out...

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Sat 08 Jan 2005 01:51:14p, jmcquown tittered and giggled, and
    giggled and tittered, and finally blurted out...

    Quoted message said:

    sf wrote:
    > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:51:27 -0600, "jmcquown"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> Fordhook limas. She said, "Oh, I don't like those." But, but,
    >> Mom! You bought them all the time, and you ate them!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I'm wondering why she bought them in the first place? Did she make
    > them for your father?

    I don't think he'd ever had that particular type before she brought
    them home that first time.
    > Personally, I don't like big limas - but the small ones are
    > okay and I really do like succotash.
    >
    I don't recall her ever buying frozen baby limas, but I know they
    were available. <shrug>

    Jill

    I like the way forkhook's "pop" in the mouth when you bite into them.

    Wayne

    Wayne, that's exactly what I love about Fordhooks! They are more... I
    think "substantial" is the word I'm looking for. 🙂

    Jill

    Yes, that's a good word for them, Jill. I like either fresh or frozen baby
    limas when I make succotash, but to eat on their own I really prefer the
    fordhooks. Mom always served homemade chili sauce on the side, and I'd
    usually put a teaspoon or two on top of the fordhooks. Now, mostly I just
    eat them buttered and sometimes add a bit of savory.

    Wayne

  8. jmcquown said:

    "Oh, I don't like those." But, but, Mom! You bought them all the
    time, and you ate them! She replied, "I know, but I didn't like them
    at all."

    Many parents are guilty of doing this. We can not expect our children
    to eat foods that we do not eat. When you are a parent, you put the food
    on your plate and you eat it, or you hide it under your mashed potatoes
    when the kids are not looking.

    My mother did this and so did I. I wanted my children to try everything,
    I did not want my own likes/dislikes to prejudice them.

    Becca

  9. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I adore those great big Fordhook lima beans. Mom made them (when she
    finally discovered frozen veggies heheh) for us as teens. I'm mad for


    them

    Quoted message said:

    and have been from the first time I tried one.

    My parents moved away 20 years ago. I was chatting with Mom the other day
    and she asked what I made for dinner. I told her about the pork steaks
    which were accompanied by a good serving of those Fordhook limas. She


    said,

    Quoted message said:

    "Oh, I don't like those." But, but, Mom! You bought them all the time,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    you ate them! She replied, "I know, but I didn't like them at all." Huh.
    What was it, a State Secret? Took all these years for me to learn that
    about her.

    I can't figure out why she didn't just make a small helping of something


    she

    Quoted message said:

    *does* like for herself. We were teens; we would have understood some
    things you just don't care for. And no, it wasn't because she couldn't
    afford to buy an extra veggie to serve to herself. She and Dad love beets
    and knowing we didn't care for them she'd steam some broccoli (for


    example)

    Quoted message said:

    when they wanted beets, just so we'd have a veggie we liked. But she


    didn't

    Quoted message said:

    do that for herself; go figure.

    Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you simply


    never

    Quoted message said:

    knew about?

    Jill

    Hey Jill, how's things? 🙂
    I don't know if this is the same thing, but it's similar enough...
    When I was a kid, my dad would occasionally (say, once a week) bring my mom
    home this candy that was a mint marshmallow interior covered in chocolate. I
    always thought she liked them. Apparently so did Dad. Well, we were in a
    store some months ago, and I saw the candy there. "Look Mom, your favorite
    candy is here!" Laughing, she told me she "always hated those little
    things"! I asked why Dad was always bringing them home for her, and she said
    she didn't know how he got the idea that she liked them, but once he did, he
    bought them for the next ten years. She always gave them to one of us kids
    or to my Dad to eat! lol

    kimberly

  10. jmcquown said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:


    I like the way forkhook's "pop" in the mouth when you bite into them.

    Wayne

    Wayne, that's exactly what I love about Fordhooks! They are more... I think
    "substantial" is the word I'm looking for. 🙂

    Jill

    For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
    starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.

    Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.

    gloria p

  11. jmcquown said:

    Wayne Boatwright wrote:

    Wayne, that's exactly what I love about Fordhooks! They are more... I think
    "substantial" is the word I'm looking for. 🙂


    That's an interesting difference. I always associate
    "mealy" with the big limas.

    sf

  12. Puester said:

    For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
    starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.

    Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.


    have you ever had them freshpicked? Like another animal all together.
    Velvety green taste with a nutty afterglow.
    blacksalt

  13. On Sat 08 Jan 2005 09:56:41p, kalanamak tittered and giggled, and giggled and
    tittered, and finally blurted out...

    Quoted message said:
    Puester said:

    For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
    starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.

    Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.


    have you ever had them freshpicked? Like another animal all together.
    Velvety green taste with a nutty afterglow.
    blacksalt

    Nice description!

    Wayna

  14. jmcquown said:


    Have you uncovered things about your parents eating habits you
    simply never
    knew about?

    Jill

    A long time ago my Mom told me they were so poor during the depression
    that they sometimes ate onion and catsup sandwiches - sometimes only
    catsup - and "were grateful we had them". We were poor growing up, but
    never *that* poor. My Mom's gone now, but I honestly don't think there
    is anything I don't know about her eating habits. I stole a bunch of
    her recipes when we went through her stuff, after she passed. She
    never did write out some of her "famous" recipes, and I'm still trying
    to approximate them, three years later. Can't call her up anymore to
    say "Hey - how do I do so-and-so?" :*(

    -L.

  15. blacksalt wrote (1/8/2005) as follows about lima beans:

    Quoted message said:

    have you ever had them freshpicked? Like another animal all
    together. Velvety green taste with a nutty afterglow.

    Have to agree. I remember the first time I had fresh limas.
    Great stuff.

  16. Puester said:
    jmcquown said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:


    I like the way forkhook's "pop" in the mouth when you bite into
    them.

    Wayne

    Wayne, that's exactly what I love about Fordhooks! They are more...
    I think "substantial" is the word I'm looking for. 🙂

    Jill

    For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
    starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.

    Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.

    gloria p

    I'm with you on the liver! I'll take your helping of limas 🙂

    Jill

  17. Puester said:


    For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
    starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.

    Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.

    You bang on about the lima beans. They have no redeeming qualities. I am not so
    sure about the liver. My mother, who used to cook all meat until it was completely
    cooked, served some nasty liver to me a few times. For me, it is the texture, not
    the taste. I have heard from liver lovers that if properly cooked it is pretty
    tasty. I will take their word for that. No liver and bacon or onion for me thanks,
    but I have had it served to me a few times (no options for other real food) cooked
    and served with a gravy, and it was quite good. In fact, I had seconds. I love
    liverwurst and liver pate, but still am not a fan of fried liver.

  18. kalanamak said:
    Puester said:

    For another point of view: lima beans are nasty little
    starch pillows wrapped in an icky plastic-like coating.

    Limas and liver are on my avoid-at-all-costs list.

    have you ever had them freshpicked? Like another animal all together.
    Velvety green taste with a nutty afterglow.
    blacksalt

    I believe you but I've never lived where they are grown,
    either commercially or by hobby gardeners.

    gloria p

  19. "Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You bang on about the lima beans. They have no redeeming qualities. I am
    not so
    sure about the liver. My mother, who used to cook all meat until it was
    completely
    cooked, served some nasty liver to me a few times. For me, it is the
    texture, not
    the taste. I have heard from liver lovers that if properly cooked it is
    pretty
    tasty. I will take their word for that. No liver and bacon or onion for me
    thanks,

    Gawd, I could smell it coming out of the vents when it was on the menu at
    the
    corporate complex where I worked. Good morning to me (gag).

    nancy

  20. I find they taste worst when they're badly cooked. For frozen,
    that means cooked without water and not long enough.
    If you follow package directions on the frozen ones, they
    taste better.

    I like them, so I can't say if the change is enough to change
    from bad to good.

    Greg Zywicki

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