They're fighting back!

Bob M said:

Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries are
fighting back, against accusations these industries are causing obesity:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

I like this quote:

"'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon is
only 15 calories."

Ok, this isn't right:

"Helping launch that campaign will be a paid appearance by former
Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Swann, who also serves as chairman of
the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports. His council role
was noted in the trade group's initial notice about today's news
conference, according to the Web site Corporatecrimereporter.com. That
reference was a mistake and was dropped in subsequent notices, said the
trade group's spokeswoman Jackie Clark, who added that Swann is appearing
on his own behalf and is not representing the president's council."

Lynn Swan should be immediately fired from his position on the Council.
He can't get into bed with the vending machine industry while at the same
time promote physical fitness.

--
Bob in CT

Bob M said:

Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries are
fighting back, against accusations these industries are causing obesity:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

I like this quote:

"'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon is only
15 calories."

Calories, schmalories. Refined sugar is one of the worst (and quickest
acting) things for your teeth. The key word "in moderation", but the
sugar and snack food industries don't SERVE sugar "in moderation". Not to
mention, that their business depends on people NOT exercising moderation.
Refined sugar is in every one of the products mentioned, even the "more
frequently" ones ...
green sticker on a granola bar.... what a laugh.

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:59:21 -0500, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Bob M wrote:
:: On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:04:47 -0500, Bob M <[email hidden]>
:: wrote:
::
::: Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries are
::: fighting back, against accusations these industries are causing
::: obesity:
:::
::: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/
:::
::: I like this quote:
:::
::: "'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon
::: is only 15 calories."
:::
::
:: Ok, this isn't right:
::
:: "Helping launch that campaign will be a paid appearance by former
:: Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Swann, who also serves as chairman
:: of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports. His
:: council role was noted in the trade group's initial notice about
:: today's news conference, according to the Web site
:: Corporatecrimereporter.com. That reference was a mistake and was
:: dropped in subsequent notices, said the trade group's spokeswoman
:: Jackie Clark, who added that Swann is appearing on his own behalf
:: and is not representing the president's council."
::
:: Lynn Swan should be immediately fired from his position on the
:: Council. He can't get into bed with the vending machine industry
:: while at the same time promote physical fitness.

If the vending machine industry would make some effort to clean up its
act,
then it might be a good thing. However, I don't see how they could ever
get around the use of TFAs...

I just can't see the vending machine industry cleaning up its act, but
we'll see. (And you've noted the TFA link.) One of my downfalls was
working a ridiculous amount, having nothing to eat, and going to a vending
machine. I did that for a few months, and it showed.

--
Bob in CT

Bob M wrote:
:: On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:04:47 -0500, Bob M <[email hidden]>
:: wrote:
::
::: Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries are
::: fighting back, against accusations these industries are causing
::: obesity:
:::
::: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/
:::
::: I like this quote:
:::
::: "'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon
::: is only 15 calories."
:::
::
:: Ok, this isn't right:
::
:: "Helping launch that campaign will be a paid appearance by former
:: Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Swann, who also serves as chairman
:: of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports. His
:: council role was noted in the trade group's initial notice about
:: today's news conference, according to the Web site
:: Corporatecrimereporter.com. That reference was a mistake and was
:: dropped in subsequent notices, said the trade group's spokeswoman
:: Jackie Clark, who added that Swann is appearing on his own behalf
:: and is not representing the president's council."
::
:: Lynn Swan should be immediately fired from his position on the
:: Council. He can't get into bed with the vending machine industry
:: while at the same time promote physical fitness.

If the vending machine industry would make some effort to clean up its act,
then it might be a good thing. However, I don't see how they could ever
get around the use of TFAs...

Bob M wrote:
:: On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:59:21 -0500, Roger Zoul
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Bob M wrote:
::::: On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:04:47 -0500, Bob M
::::: <[email hidden]> wrote:
:::::
:::::: Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries
:::::: are fighting back, against accusations these industries are
:::::: causing obesity:
::::::
:::::: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/
::::::
:::::: I like this quote:
::::::
:::::: "'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a
:::::: teaspoon is only 15 calories."
::::::
:::::
::::: Ok, this isn't right:
:::::
::::: "Helping launch that campaign will be a paid appearance by former
::::: Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Swann, who also serves as
::::: chairman of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and
::::: Sports. His council role was noted in the trade group's initial
::::: notice about today's news conference, according to the Web site
::::: Corporatecrimereporter.com. That reference was a mistake and was
::::: dropped in subsequent notices, said the trade group's spokeswoman
::::: Jackie Clark, who added that Swann is appearing on his own behalf
::::: and is not representing the president's council."
:::::
::::: Lynn Swan should be immediately fired from his position on the
::::: Council. He can't get into bed with the vending machine industry
::::: while at the same time promote physical fitness.
:::
::: If the vending machine industry would make some effort to clean up
::: its act,
::: then it might be a good thing. However, I don't see how they
::: could ever get around the use of TFAs...
:::
:::
::
:: I just can't see the vending machine industry cleaning up its act,
:: but we'll see. (And you've noted the TFA link.) One of my
:: downfalls was working a ridiculous amount, having nothing to eat,
:: and going to a vending machine. I did that for a few months, and it
:: showed.

A few months? I did that for years! And boy did it show.

Ignoramus30333 said:

I object to the use of expression "refined sugar". I personally would
rather use "sugar" or "table sugar".

This expression somehow implies that there is some better "unrefined
sugar". Under the guise of this implication, the sugar industry sells
"brown sugar", which is the same sugar with molasses added.

I am sorry you object to it. What would be a better term, in your
opinion, to use to express the same about the different types of refined
sugar?

Brown sugar is refined sugar too, but it's not table sugar. Corn
syrup is a refined sugar too.

Rather than listing all the sugars there are, it's far easier for me to
just say "refined sugar", of which the MANY various sub-types can be found
in processed food.

YMMV

A sugar ho.

In news:[email hidden],
Bob M <[email hidden]> stated
| Ok, this isn't right:
|
| "Helping launch that campaign will be a paid appearance by former
| Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Swann, who also serves as chairman
| of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports. His
| council role was noted in the trade group's initial notice about
| today's news conference, according to the Web site
| Corporatecrimereporter.com. That reference was a mistake and was
| dropped in subsequent notices, said the trade group's spokeswoman
| Jackie Clark, who added that Swann is appearing on his own behalf and
| is not representing the president's council."
|
| Lynn Swan should be immediately fired from his position on the
| Council. He can't get into bed with the vending machine industry
| while at the same time promote physical fitness.

A sugar ho.

In news:[email hidden],
Bob M <[email hidden]> stated
| Ok, this isn't right:
|
| "Helping launch that campaign will be a paid appearance by former
| Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Swann, who also serves as chairman
| of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports. His
| council role was noted in the trade group's initial notice about
| today's news conference, according to the Web site
| Corporatecrimereporter.com. That reference was a mistake and was
| dropped in subsequent notices, said the trade group's spokeswoman
| Jackie Clark, who added that Swann is appearing on his own behalf and
| is not representing the president's council."
|
| Lynn Swan should be immediately fired from his position on the
| Council. He can't get into bed with the vending machine industry
| while at the same time promote physical fitness.

Crafting Mom said:

What would be a better term, in your
opinion, to use to express the same about the different types of refined
sugar?

[censored], crapola and [censored].

MU said:

Crafting Mom said:

What would be a better term, in your
opinion, to use to express the same about the different types of refined
sugar?

[censored], crapola and [censored].

And that's putting it nicely 😉

FOB wrote:
:: A sugar ho.
::

Sugarho.

:: In news:[email hidden],
:: Bob M <[email hidden]> stated
::: Ok, this isn't right:
:::
::: "Helping launch that campaign will be a paid appearance by former
::: Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Swann, who also serves as chairman
::: of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports. His
::: council role was noted in the trade group's initial notice about
::: today's news conference, according to the Web site
::: Corporatecrimereporter.com. That reference was a mistake and was
::: dropped in subsequent notices, said the trade group's spokeswoman
::: Jackie Clark, who added that Swann is appearing on his own behalf
::: and is not representing the president's council."
:::
::: Lynn Swan should be immediately fired from his position on the
::: Council. He can't get into bed with the vending machine industry
::: while at the same time promote physical fitness.

Bob M said:

Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries are
fighting back, against accusations these industries are causing obesity:

Quoted message said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

Quoted message said:

I like this quote:

Quoted message said:

"'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon is only
15 calories."

Even scarier:
"A red sticker on a candy bar, for example, would mean it should be chosen
rarely, while a green sticker on a granola bar would mean it's more
nutritious and can be selected more frequently."

Ever looked at the sugar content in a 'healthy' granola bar? Or a
'healthy' fruit yogurt?

We fought a constant battle with our school board over vending machines.
The bottom line was that no one really cared about the kids, they just
cared about the lucrative cut the school district gets, especially for
those 'exclusive' pop machine contracts. When our boys went on to
college, it was the same thing all over again, same exclusive Coke or
Pepsi contracts bringing money in to the schools.

Dan
325/191/190
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

Roger Zoul said:

Bob M wrote:

....

Quoted message said:

:: I just can't see the vending machine industry cleaning up its act,
:: but we'll see. (And you've noted the TFA link.) One of my
:: downfalls was working a ridiculous amount, having nothing to eat,
:: and going to a vending machine. I did that for a few months, and it
:: showed.

Quoted message said:

A few months? I did that for years! And boy did it show.

That, and drive-thru windows, were my downfall. And Krispy Kremes.

I found that in order to eat better, I had to live better. I live more
slowly now that I used to. I make time to take time to eat better.

Dan
325/191/190
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

If y'all were willing to pay more taxes for your children's education, they
wouldn't have to resort to such tactics.

;-)

--
Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
birth?

"Daniel Hoffmeister" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Bob M said:

Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries are
fighting back, against accusations these industries are causing obesity:

Quoted message said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

Quoted message said:

I like this quote:

Quoted message said:

"'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon is
only
15 calories."

Even scarier:
"A red sticker on a candy bar, for example, would mean it should be chosen
rarely, while a green sticker on a granola bar would mean it's more
nutritious and can be selected more frequently."

Ever looked at the sugar content in a 'healthy' granola bar? Or a
'healthy' fruit yogurt?

We fought a constant battle with our school board over vending machines.
The bottom line was that no one really cared about the kids, they just
cared about the lucrative cut the school district gets, especially for
those 'exclusive' pop machine contracts. When our boys went on to
college, it was the same thing all over again, same exclusive Coke or
Pepsi contracts bringing money in to the schools.

Dan
325/191/190
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:
|| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote:
||| Bob M wrote:
|| ...
||||| I just can't see the vending machine industry cleaning up its act,
||||| but we'll see. (And you've noted the TFA link.) One of my
||||| downfalls was working a ridiculous amount, having nothing to eat,
||||| and going to a vending machine. I did that for a few months, and
||||| it showed.
||
||| A few months? I did that for years! And boy did it show.
||
|| That, and drive-thru windows, were my downfall. And Krispy Kremes.
||

Let's not even mention donuts......it pains me to think of my old habits....

I often think that if I had been married with family, that things would have
gone differently for me. I would always eat this terrible stuff when I was
alone....when no one was present to watch me inhale a dozen KKs...while
driving from the donut shop to home...

|| I found that in order to eat better, I had to live better. I live
|| more slowly now that I used to. I make time to take time to eat
|| better.

Yes, brother!

In article <[email hidden]>,

Daniel Hoffmeister said:

Bob M said:

Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries are
fighting back, against accusations these industries are causing obesity:

Quoted message said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

Quoted message said:

I like this quote:

Quoted message said:

"'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon is only
15 calories."

Even scarier:
"A red sticker on a candy bar, for example, would mean it should be chosen
rarely, while a green sticker on a granola bar would mean it's more
nutritious and can be selected more frequently."

Ever looked at the sugar content in a 'healthy' granola bar?

Transfats AND HFC!!

Quoted message said:

Or a
'healthy' fruit yogurt?

We fought a constant battle with our school board over vending machines.
The bottom line was that no one really cared about the kids, they just
cared about the lucrative cut the school district gets, especially for
those 'exclusive' pop machine contracts. When our boys went on to
college, it was the same thing all over again, same exclusive Coke or
Pepsi contracts bringing money in to the schools.

Dan
325/191/190
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

If they weren't taxed so heavily, they could send their kids to private
school. ;o)

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

If y'all were willing to pay more taxes for your children's education, they
wouldn't have to resort to such tactics.

;-)

--
Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
birth?

"Daniel Hoffmeister" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Bob M said:

Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries are
fighting back, against accusations these industries are causing obesity:

Quoted message said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

Quoted message said:

I like this quote:

Quoted message said:

"'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon is
only
15 calories."

Even scarier:
"A red sticker on a candy bar, for example, would mean it should be chosen
rarely, while a green sticker on a granola bar would mean it's more
nutritious and can be selected more frequently."

Ever looked at the sugar content in a 'healthy' granola bar? Or a
'healthy' fruit yogurt?

We fought a constant battle with our school board over vending machines.
The bottom line was that no one really cared about the kids, they just
cared about the lucrative cut the school district gets, especially for
those 'exclusive' pop machine contracts. When our boys went on to
college, it was the same thing all over again, same exclusive Coke or
Pepsi contracts bringing money in to the schools.

Dan
325/191/190
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Yeah! Let's go to an all private school system, so all the poor people can
remain serfs. Or has that been tried already?

--
Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
birth?

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If they weren't taxed so heavily, they could send their kids to private
school. ;o)

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

If y'all were willing to pay more taxes for your children's education,
they
wouldn't have to resort to such tactics.

;-)

--
Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
birth?

"Daniel Hoffmeister" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Bob M <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries are
> fighting back, against accusations these industries are causing
> obesity:

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

> I like this quote:

> "'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon is
> only
> 15 calories."

Even scarier:
"A red sticker on a candy bar, for example, would mean it should be
chosen
rarely, while a green sticker on a granola bar would mean it's more
nutritious and can be selected more frequently."

Ever looked at the sugar content in a 'healthy' granola bar? Or a
'healthy' fruit yogurt?

We fought a constant battle with our school board over vending
machines.
The bottom line was that no one really cared about the kids, they just
cared about the lucrative cut the school district gets, especially for
those 'exclusive' pop machine contracts. When our boys went on to
college, it was the same thing all over again, same exclusive Coke or
Pepsi contracts bringing money in to the schools.

Dan
325/191/190
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If y'all were willing to pay more taxes for your children's education,

they

Quoted message said:

wouldn't have to resort to such tactics.

;-)

People in general seem to get upset if the increase in direct costs go
up. They don't have a problem with marketing gimmicks which provide quick
false economic returns. It's a classic "You can pay me now, or you can pay
me later". But it may not be in a monetary fashion that the future payments
are made in.
"Let's sell chocolate bars and pop in the hallways, so we can teach
children about healthy eating in the classroom."
I'm sure no board member actually feels this way, but that does appear to
be the message that is set by their actions.

Quoted message said:

--
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birth?

"Daniel Hoffmeister" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Bob M said:

Here's an article about how the sugar and snack-food industries are
fighting back, against accusations these industries are causing

obesity:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6819475/

Quoted message said:

I like this quote:

Quoted message said:

"'In moderation, [sugar is] not evil,' she said, noting a teaspoon is
only
15 calories."

Even scarier:
"A red sticker on a candy bar, for example, would mean it should be

chosen

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

rarely, while a green sticker on a granola bar would mean it's more
nutritious and can be selected more frequently."

Ever looked at the sugar content in a 'healthy' granola bar? Or a
'healthy' fruit yogurt?

We fought a constant battle with our school board over vending machines.
The bottom line was that no one really cared about the kids, they just
cared about the lucrative cut the school district gets, especially for
those 'exclusive' pop machine contracts. When our boys went on to
college, it was the same thing all over again, same exclusive Coke or
Pepsi contracts bringing money in to the schools.

Dan
325/191/190
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes