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  1. The thought occurred to me that if they make ski boots and foot beds that
    are thermoformable, why don't they do the same with bike seats. Forgive me
    if they DO make such a thing- haven't done the research. I realize we're
    talking about some delicate parts of the anatomy... Pat

  2. patrick mitchel said:

    The thought occurred to me that if they make ski boots and foot beds that
    are thermoformable, why don't they do the same with bike seats. Forgive me
    if they DO make such a thing- haven't done the research. I realize we're
    talking about some delicate parts of the anatomy... Pat

    I rode a formable seat for a while. It was a Wave Flow or something
    like that. The pad was a past-like gel. Pearl Izumi had a seat with
    something like it, but mine was the Waveflow brand.

    The seat adopted the shape of my body: all the liquid gel flowed out
    from where I was sitting (near the front) and bulged up in a giant
    blister (near the back).

    After a few miles I was essentially sitting on the hard plastic base,
    with no gel. Plus it was embarrassing to reveal the shape my body
    produced to anyone looking at my bike when I wasn't on it.

    I got rid of that seat pretty quickly!

  3. patrick mitchel said:

    The thought occurred to me that if they make ski boots and foot beds


    that

    Quoted message said:

    are thermoformable, why don't they do the same with bike seats.


    Forgive me

    Quoted message said:

    if they DO make such a thing- haven't done the research. I realize


    we're

    Quoted message said:

    talking about some delicate parts of the anatomy... Pat

    Adaptive bike saddles,hhhmmmmmmmm
    I think you are look for Brooks saddles, they adapt to your sit
    bones. Brook saddles are available in different widths to accomodate
    your sit bones and shapes good for upright, rando and racing style
    seat//bar relationships. Using the miracle material "leather"(tm)
    a material that warmth and sweat molds to your sit bones.

    Remember in the bike universe everything has been invented at least
    three times.

    Scott G.
    Dept of Technological Antiquites

  4. Brooks and Ideal leather saddles do that, form to your anatomy.

    - -

    "May you have the wind at your back.
    And a really low gear for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner
    http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

  5. On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:21:38 -0500, [email hidden] (Chris

    Zacho 'The Wheelman') said:

    Brooks and Ideal leather saddles do that, form to your anatomy.

    But only to an extent; the gel-pad type of thing that was mentioned
    has more of the nature of modelling clay, and will show where the
    seams in the clothing had been. Assuming that the clothing's
    compliant enough, they can be much more revealing than that. (This
    idea was also tried for office chairs, resulting in one instance in
    which a guy was a little annoyed to note that the outline of a certain
    rolled tubular latex product which had been in his back pocket had
    been faithfully reproduced in the chair's cushion. The company
    changed the design to use a less flexible fabric several times before
    they finally gave up on the concept.)
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  6. Werehatrack said:

    On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:21:38 -0500, [email hidden] (Chris

    Zacho 'The Wheelman') said:

    Brooks and Ideal leather saddles do that, form to your anatomy.

    But only to an extent; the gel-pad type of thing that was mentioned
    has more of the nature of modelling clay, and will show where the
    seams in the clothing had been. Assuming that the clothing's
    compliant enough, they can be much more revealing than that. (This
    idea was also tried for office chairs, resulting in one instance in
    which a guy was a little annoyed to note that the outline of a certain
    rolled tubular latex product which had been in his back pocket had
    been faithfully reproduced in the chair's cushion. The company
    changed the design to use a less flexible fabric several times before
    they finally gave up on the concept.)

    Dear Werehatrack,

    But why Santa, why?

    Why would an office worker carry a rolled-up latex bicycle
    inner-tube in his back pocket? Don't they leak faster than
    butyl?

    Cindy Lou Who

  7. RE/

    Quoted message said:

    rando

    Halfway between upright and racing?
    --
    PeteCresswell

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    patrick mitchel said:

    The thought occurred to me that if they make ski boots and foot beds that
    are thermoformable, why don't they do the same with bike seats. Forgive me
    if they DO make such a thing- haven't done the research. I realize we're
    talking about some delicate parts of the anatomy... Pat

    _ Moldable cork seats? I've often wondered why there isn't
    a sub-culture of "seat fitters" like there is with skiing.
    Every ski town has one guy that everybody goes to get
    pain free boots. I guess if saddles cost $399, people would
    put more effort into making the one they have work rather
    than just trying different ones until find something they
    like. Or maybe this all gets lumped into 'bike-fitting',
    since there are so many more places for chronic pain on
    a bike.

    _ I think the big reason is that you actually move around
    on the bike seat more than you realize and a good seat needs
    to allow some back/forth movement and some flex. Cork/plastic
    molds are great for fixing the foot in one spot and one relative
    angle to the rest of the shoe/boot. They don't hold up to flexing
    very well and I suspect a bike seat that didn't flex at all would
    be quite painful.

    _ Booker C. Bense

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  9. $399?! I want to find out where you buy your ski boots! I havent'
    paid that little in years (since I was able to pro form stuff,
    actually). It's kinda funny that I ran across this thread today...I
    was thinking almost the same thing while sitting at the podiatrist's
    office waiting to be told that a good boot fitter should be able to
    help me more than he could with my ski boot pain.

    *smarting over the $600 'sale price' of his Technica Icon Alu Hot
    Forms...which still hurt like a sumnabitch*

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