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  1. THERE ARE NO INCURABLE DISEASES
    800herbdoc.comnhpbooks.html
    whale.toshulze.html
    Dr. Richard Schulze's 30-Day Intensive Cleansing and Detoxification Program At last, a serious Detox
    that's clinically proven, powerfully effective and life changing. This program is for anyone who
    has been told by their doctor that their disease is "incurable." This program is also for anyone
    looking to make a radical change in their health.

  2. Quoted message said:

    THERE ARE NO INCURABLE DISEASES

    Everyones' eventual and inevitable death cures them all. At least for the sufferer.

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  3. After 30 days of this stupid and useless program, you will swear you have no diseases so you don't
    have to do it again.

    The cleansing program is not based on any science (at least from after the 19th century) and there
    is no evidence that it works. It potentially dangerous (ruptured colon, electrolyte imbalances).

    Jeff

    PS, If I am incorrect, please provide the peer-reviewed articles that shows that cleansing works and
    please provide the names of the toxins cleared from the body.

  4. [email hidden] (john) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    THERE ARE NO INCURABLE DISEASES 800herbdoc.comnhpbooks.html
    whale.toshulze.html
    Dr. Richard Schulze's 30-Day Intensive Cleansing and Detoxification Program At last, a serious
    Detox that's clinically proven, powerfully effective and life changing. This program is for
    anyone who has been told by their doctor that their disease is "incurable." This program is
    also for anyone looking to make a radical change in their health.

    UK supplier: herbs hands healing 0845 345 3727

    You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on cleansing and have to run a
    monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out the truth

    "The simplicity of truth is annoying to man."---Goethe "80% of my patients were well just after
    doing my thorough bowel cleansing program."--Richard Shulze, ND., MH

  5. "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    (...)

    Quoted message said:

    You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on cleansing and have to run a
    monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out the truth

    If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it does. I have asked for
    information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

    For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which toxins. Yet, no one has been
    able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate that they exist in the blood or other organs and
    decrease after cleansing. Or show any studies that demonstrate that cleansing helps with anything.

    From what I can gather, cleansing is based on old theories about how the body works (that date to
    the days before people even understood what the liver does or even what the heart does). Based on
    modern medical studies, there is no reason to beleive that the toxins involved leave the colon or
    that the cleansing does anything healthy for the body.

    Jeff

    Quoted message said:

    "The simplicity of truth is annoying to man."---Goethe

    You mean like the turth that cleansing does not work?

    Quoted message said:

    "80% of my patients were well just after doing my thorough bowel cleansing program."--Richard
    Shulze, ND., MH

    But 100% were well before going through the cleansing program.

  6. "Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    (...)

    Quoted message said:

    You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on cleansing and have to run
    a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out the truth

    If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it does. I have asked for
    information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

    I can provide evidence that the current allopathic system is corrupt. Will that do?

    Quoted message said:

    For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which toxins. Yet, no one has been
    able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate that they exist in the blood or other organs and
    decrease after cleansing. Or show any studies that demonstrate that cleansing helps with anything.

    This is all based around the soil theory which originates from the mid 1800s, which was then
    subsequently suppressed in favour of the germ theory. The soil theory says that germs are nature's
    undertakers. Just like in a forest where dead plants break down and return to the soil, so as a
    system weakens through loss of vitality, the germs take over.

    "If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving that germs seek their natural
    habitat, diseased tissue - rather than being the cause of the diseased tissue."
    - Rudolph Virchow (1821-1902)

    "Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu   [the environment within] is everything."  
    -  Louis Pasteur (on his deathbed)

    "Many forms of diagnosis are dependent upon what germ life exists, and its existence in the body
    usually indicates a bad state of deterioration. Disease germs are nature's undertakers" -- Bernard
    Jenson, The Science and Practise of Iridology

    "Rife showed that by altering the environment and food supply, friendly bacteria such as colon
    bacillus, could be converted into the 'pathogenic' bacteria known as typhoid.  "Rife was able to
    observe that the viral agent associated with certain forms of cancer could in time be modified into
    harmless bacillus coli, and the process reversed. Rife stated that it was the unbalanced cell
    metabolism of the human body that in actuality produced the disease. He believed that if the human
    body was perfectly balanced, it was susceptible to no disease. "Virulence is an ecological problem
    -- that is, a problem of the state of internal cleanliness.

    Cellular Toxemia and 'Germs of Life'  by Saul Pressman "The so-called 'bad' bacteria and viruses
    that modern medicine fights with its huge arsenal of pharmaceutical drugs are in reality the germs
    of life. These germs of life live in symbiosis with the nutritive medium that constitutes our body,
    allowing it to be built up and later decomposed, to be metamorphosed and recreated. These germs are
    pleomorphic shapeshifters who are controlled by the medium in which they live.

    Quoted message said:

    From what I can gather, cleansing is based on old theories about how the body works (that date to
    the days before people even understood what the liver does or even what the heart does). Based on
    modern medical studies, there is no reason to beleive that the toxins involved leave the colon or
    that the cleansing does anything healthy for the body.

    The corrupted allopathic pharmaceutical cartel has done a good snow job on convincing the public
    about the "safety and efficacy" of its products.

    The truth about the Rockefeller drug empire The Drug Story -- by Hans Ruesch From David Icke's
    Medical Archive: davidicke.netdrugstory.html

    When the FDA, whose officials have to be acceptable to Rockefeller Center before they are appointed,
    has to put an independent operator out of business, it goes all out to execute those orders. But the
    orders do not come directly from Standard Oil or a drug house director. As Morris Bealle pointed
    out, the American Medical Association (AMA) is the front for the Drug Trust, and furnishes the quack
    doctors to testify that even when they know nothing of the product involved, it is their considered
    opinion that it has no therapeutic value.

    Carole austarmetro.com.ausoil.htm

  7. "Carole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    (...)

    Quoted message said:

    You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on cleansing and have to
    run a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out the truth

    If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it


    does.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have asked for information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

    I can provide evidence that the current allopathic system is corrupt. Will that do?

    No. We already have your views about the drug industry.

    How about real evidence that cleansing actually works?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which


    toxins.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yet, no one has been able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    they exist in the blood or other organs and decrease after cleansing. Or show any studies that
    demonstrate that cleansing helps with anything.


    (Useless, outdated quotes deleted)

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    From what I can gather, cleansing is based on old theories about how the body works (that date
    to the days before people even understood what the liver does or even what the heart does).
    Based on modern medical


    studies,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    there is no reason to beleive that the toxins involved leave the colon


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that the cleansing does anything healthy for the body.

    The corrupted allopathic pharmaceutical cartel has done a good snow job on convincing the public
    about the "safety and efficacy" of its products.

    You have been unsuccessful thus far in demonstrating the cleansing does anything, except increase
    the profits of people selling toilet paper.

    Jeff

    (...)

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Carole said:

    "Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    (...)

    Quoted message said:

    You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on cleansing and have to run
    a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out the truth

    If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it does. I have asked for
    information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

    I can provide evidence that the current allopathic system is corrupt. Will that do?

    No. If I have a theory and you have a theory, even if you can show mine is wrong, it doesn't mean
    yours is right. They could both be wrong.

    Quoted message said:

    This is all based around the soil theory which originates from the mid 1800s, which was then
    subsequently suppressed in favour of the germ theory. The soil theory says that germs are nature's
    undertakers. Just like in a forest where dead plants break down and return to the soil, so as a
    system weakens through loss of vitality, the germs take over.

    It was a cute theory at one time. There's absolutely no reason to believe it today.

    Quoted message said:

    "If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving that germs seek their natural
    habitat, diseased tissue - rather than being the cause of the diseased tissue."
    - Rudolph Virchow (1821-1902)

    "Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu   [the environment within] is everything."  
    -  Louis Pasteur (on his deathbed)

    I want to see a source for this quote. A decent biography of Pasteur will do, but until I see one, I
    will figure this "quotation" is as apocryphal as Mrs. O'Leary's cow starting the Chicago fire, or
    Darwin supposedly repudiating evolution on his deathbed (he didn't).

    Quoted message said:

    "Rife showed that by altering the environment and food supply, friendly bacteria such as colon
    bacillus, could be converted into the 'pathogenic' bacteria known as typhoid.

    Sure he did. And then he spun straw into gold.

    <remaining usual conspiracy nonsense snipped>

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
    correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
    shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  9. see below

    Carole said:

    "Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    (...)

    Quoted message said:

    You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on cleansing and have to
    run a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out the truth

    If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it does. I have asked for
    information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

    I can provide evidence that the current allopathic system is corrupt. Will that do?

    Quoted message said:

    For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which toxins. Yet, no one has
    been able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate that they exist in the blood or other
    organs and decrease after cleansing. Or show any studies that demonstrate that cleansing helps
    with anything.

    This is all based around the soil theory which originates from the mid 1800s, which was then
    subsequently suppressed in favour of the germ theory. The soil theory says that germs are nature's
    undertakers. Just like in a forest where dead plants break down and return to the soil, so as a
    system weakens through loss of vitality, the germs take over.

    "If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving that germs seek their natural
    habitat, diseased tissue - rather than being the cause of the diseased tissue."
    - Rudolph Virchow (1821-1902)

    "Bernard was right, the germ is nothing--the milieu   [the environment within] is
    everything."  
    -  Louis Pasteur (on his deathbed)

    "Many forms of diagnosis are dependent upon what germ life exists, and its existence in the body
    usually indicates a bad state of deterioration. Disease germs are nature's undertakers" -- Bernard
    Jenson, The Science and Practise of Iridology

    "Rife showed that by altering the environment and food supply, friendly bacteria such as colon
    bacillus, could be converted into the 'pathogenic' bacteria known as typhoid.  "Rife was able to
    observe that the viral agent associated with certain forms of cancer could in time be modified
    into harmless bacillus coli, and the process reversed. Rife stated that it was the unbalanced cell
    metabolism of the human body that in actuality produced the disease. He believed that if the human
    body was perfectly balanced, it was susceptible to no disease. "Virulence is an ecological problem
    -- that is, a problem of the state of internal cleanliness.

    Cellular Toxemia and 'Germs of Life'  by Saul Pressman "The so-called 'bad' bacteria and viruses
    that modern medicine fights with its huge arsenal of pharmaceutical drugs are in reality the germs
    of life. These germs of life live in symbiosis with the nutritive medium that constitutes our
    body, allowing it to be built up and later decomposed, to be metamorphosed and recreated. These
    germs are pleomorphic shapeshifters who are controlled by the medium in which they live.

    Quoted message said:

    From what I can gather, cleansing is based on old theories about how the body works (that date
    to the days before people even understood what the liver does or even what the heart does).
    Based on modern medical studies, there is no reason to beleive that the toxins involved leave
    the colon or that the cleansing does anything healthy for the body.

    The corrupted allopathic pharmaceutical cartel has done a good snow job on convincing the public
    about the "safety and efficacy" of its products.

    The truth about the Rockefeller drug empire The Drug Story -- by Hans Ruesch From David Icke's
    Medical Archive: davidicke.netdrugstory.html

    When the FDA, whose officials have to be acceptable to Rockefeller Center before they are
    appointed, has to put an independent operator out of business, it goes all out to execute those
    orders. But the orders do not come directly from Standard Oil or a drug house director. As Morris
    Bealle pointed out, the American Medical Association (AMA) is the front for the Drug Trust, and
    furnishes the quack doctors to testify that even when they know nothing of the product involved,
    it is their considered opinion that it has no therapeutic value.

    Carole austarmetro.com.ausoil.htm

    If the NAME" ockerfeller is involved...IGNORE IT! The way he made his fortune was selling CRUDE
    OIL to cure cancer...NO LIE...check it out!! B-0b1

  10. In said:

    "Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which toxins. Yet, no one has been
    able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate that they exist in the blood or other organs and
    decrease after cleansing. Or show any studies that demonstrate that cleansing helps with
    anything.

    That's a pretty straightforward request: name the "toxins."

    Quoted message said:

    This is all based around the soil theory which originates from the mid 1800s, which was then
    subsequently suppressed in favour of the germ theory. The soil theory says that germs are nature's
    undertakers. Just like in a forest where dead plants break down and return to the soil, so as a
    system weakens through loss of vitality, the germs take over.

    Well, yes, that's the "soil theory." Whether it's accurate or not is the question. That, and naming
    those "toxins."

    [Snip several purported quotes.]

    No toxins named.

    Any chance of just naming those "toxins" which are supposed to be removed by "cleansing?" That would
    be the first step in testing to see if they are actually removed by the procedures that are billed
    as doing so.

    --
    | "Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a | completely unintentional side
    | effect. " -- Linus Torvalds |
    +--------------- D. C. Sessions <[email hidden]> ----------+

  11. see below

    Jeff said:

    "Carole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    (...)

    > You can see why the allopaths shills like Jeff Putz like ignorance on cleansing and have to
    > run a monopoly to keep the mugs from finding out the truth

    If this treatment works so well, please provide real evidence that it


    does.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have asked for information and am willing to listen to real evidence.

    I can provide evidence that the current allopathic system is corrupt. Will that do?

    No. We already have your views about the drug industry.

    How about real evidence that cleansing actually works?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    For example, I have heard about "toxins." I would like to know which


    toxins.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yet, no one has been able to name the toxins involved or demonstrate


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    they exist in the blood or other organs and decrease after cleansing. Or show any studies that
    demonstrate that cleansing helps with anything.


    (Useless, outdated quotes deleted)

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    From what I can gather, cleansing is based on old theories about how the body works (that date
    to the days before people even understood what the liver does or even what the heart does).
    Based on modern medical


    studies,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    there is no reason to beleive that the toxins involved leave the colon


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that the cleansing does anything healthy for the body.

    The corrupted allopathic pharmaceutical cartel has done a good snow job on convincing the public
    about the "safety and efficacy" of its products.

    You have been unsuccessful thus far in demonstrating the cleansing does anything, except increase
    the profits of people selling toilet paper.

    Jeff

    It depends on YOUR definition of "CLEANSING" Perhaps your MIND

    Quoted message said:

    needs a good good sweeping to rid it of COBWEBS??? B-0b1

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