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  1. Usually, in preparation for Emmanuelmas dinner, I am harried and
    exhausted. Things are not times properly and so everything gets
    rushed and I run out of space. This year, it all got done, we sat
    down and ate and everything went fine.

    For one thing, I put it to my wife that if she wanted to make any
    baking stuff for dessert, she had to get it done on the 24th. She
    did. She made brownies. We had a frozen apple pie and baked it on
    the morning of, before I needed the oven for the turkey stuff.

    This year, as in recent times, I resorted to stuffed turkey breasts
    from a local butcher. I cooked two in succession, about 3 hours
    total time, and the breasts were done by 2PM. I went upstairs,
    watched a bit of tv, then came back down at 4:30 to start on the veg.
    I put yams wrapped in tin foil to bake in the oven, water to boil for
    potatoes, made the cranberry sauce with my special secret ingredient,
    then braised the brussel sprouts using thick slab organic bacon.
    Everything was ready on time. The turkey was served at room
    temperature which seemed to please everyone.

    The people there were my son, my wife, her son, her daughter, her
    granddaughter, and her daughter's boyfriend, and my ex-wife
    (daughter's mother). It was the best supper yet.

    --

    "Et nunc reges intelligite erudmini, qui judicatis terram."

    "Rancor is an outpouring of a feeling of inferiority."

    Jose Ortega Y Gasset

  2. Michel Boucher said:

    Usually, in preparation for Emmanuelmas dinner, I am harried and
    exhausted. Things are not times properly and so everything gets
    rushed and I run out of space. This year, it all got done, we sat
    down and ate and everything went fine.

    For one thing, I put it to my wife that if she wanted to make any
    baking stuff for dessert, she had to get it done on the 24th. She
    did. She made brownies. We had a frozen apple pie and baked it on
    the morning of, before I needed the oven for the turkey stuff.

    This year, as in recent times, I resorted to stuffed turkey breasts
    from a local butcher. I cooked two in succession, about 3 hours
    total time, and the breasts were done by 2PM. I went upstairs,
    watched a bit of tv, then came back down at 4:30 to start on the veg.
    I put yams wrapped in tin foil to bake in the oven, water to boil for
    potatoes, made the cranberry sauce with my special secret ingredient,
    then braised the brussel sprouts using thick slab organic bacon.
    Everything was ready on time. The turkey was served at room
    temperature which seemed to please everyone.

    The people there were my son, my wife, her son, her daughter, her
    granddaughter, and her daughter's boyfriend, and my ex-wife
    (daughter's mother). It was the best supper yet.

    Your wife AND your ex-wife... [don't ask]... why did you divorce her?
    Why didn't you Mormonize...?

  3. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    snip

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    The people there were my son, my wife, her son, her daughter, her
    granddaughter, and her daughter's boyfriend, and my ex-wife
    (daughter's mother). It was the best supper yet.

    Your wife AND your ex-wife... [don't ask]... why did you divorce her?
    Why didn't you Mormonize...?


    My husband and ex-husband, his wife and ex-wife, his in-laws, my in-laws,
    all their children. . .the children have never during their growing up years
    had to choose among relatives for holiday/festive celebrations. It is all
    done together in family support. At first some friends that were invited to
    celebrations were a bit bemused but quickly adapted. Life's too short for
    anything else.
    Janet

  4. On Mon 26 Dec 2005 12:53:11p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Michel
    Boucher?

    Quoted message said:

    Usually, in preparation for Emmanuelmas dinner, I am harried and
    exhausted. Things are not times properly and so everything gets
    rushed and I run out of space. This year, it all got done, we sat
    down and ate and everything went fine.

    For one thing, I put it to my wife that if she wanted to make any
    baking stuff for dessert, she had to get it done on the 24th. She
    did. She made brownies. We had a frozen apple pie and baked it on
    the morning of, before I needed the oven for the turkey stuff.

    This year, as in recent times, I resorted to stuffed turkey breasts
    from a local butcher. I cooked two in succession, about 3 hours
    total time, and the breasts were done by 2PM. I went upstairs,
    watched a bit of tv, then came back down at 4:30 to start on the veg.
    I put yams wrapped in tin foil to bake in the oven, water to boil for
    potatoes, made the cranberry sauce with my special secret ingredient,
    then braised the brussel sprouts using thick slab organic bacon.
    Everything was ready on time. The turkey was served at room
    temperature which seemed to please everyone.

    The people there were my son, my wife, her son, her daughter, her
    granddaughter, and her daughter's boyfriend, and my ex-wife
    (daughter's mother). It was the best supper yet.

    It sounds delicious and unhurried. The best kind!

    Psst! What's the secret ingredient? I love new ways with cranberries.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    __________________________________________________________________
    And if we enter a room full of manure, may we believe in the pony.

  5. Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Psst! What's the secret ingredient? I love new ways with
    cranberries.

    A generous amount of finely chopped fresh ginger, and I do not
    oversweeten the cranberries so that they remain somewhat [censored] in the
    mouth. This year I used three 8 oz packages, with 2/3 cup of fructose
    (you would need a cup of sugar to get the same sweetness), two largish
    tablespoons of finely chopped ginger and two tablespoons of lemon
    juice. Cook the cranberries only to the point where they almost all
    bursting. Serve warm.

    --

    "Et nunc reges intelligite erudmini, qui judicatis terram."

    "Rancor is an outpouring of a feeling of inferiority."

    Jose Ortega Y Gasset

  6. "Janet Bostwick" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    snip

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    The people there were my son, my wife, her son, her daughter,
    her granddaughter, and her daughter's boyfriend, and my ex-wife
    (daughter's mother). It was the best supper yet.

    Your wife AND your ex-wife... [don't ask]... why did you divorce
    her? Why didn't you Mormonize...?


    My husband and ex-husband, his wife and ex-wife, his in-laws, my
    in-laws, all their children. . .the children have never during
    their growing up years had to choose among relatives for
    holiday/festive celebrations. It is all done together in family
    support. At first some friends that were invited to celebrations
    were a bit bemused but quickly adapted. Life's too short for
    anything else. Janet

    Normally, my ex would have been in Vancouver with my daughter but she
    was hospitalized earlier this month and as she has no family here, we
    asked her if she would join us.

    Trust Sheldingdong to see something sleazy in being nice.

    --

    "Et nunc reges intelligite erudmini, qui judicatis terram."

    "Rancor is an outpouring of a feeling of inferiority."

    Jose Ortega Y Gasset

  7. On Mon 26 Dec 2005 05:18:09p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Michel
    Boucher?

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Psst! What's the secret ingredient? I love new ways with
    cranberries.

    A generous amount of finely chopped fresh ginger, and I do not
    oversweeten the cranberries so that they remain somewhat [censored] in the
    mouth. This year I used three 8 oz packages, with 2/3 cup of fructose
    (you would need a cup of sugar to get the same sweetness), two largish
    tablespoons of finely chopped ginger and two tablespoons of lemon
    juice. Cook the cranberries only to the point where they almost all
    bursting. Serve warm.

    Thanks, Michel. That sounds delicious! Saved for my next batch of cranberry
    sauce.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    __________________________________________________________________
    And if we enter a room full of manure, may we believe in the pony.

  8. "Janet Bostwick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My husband and ex-husband, his wife and ex-wife, his in-laws, my
    in-laws, all their children. . .the children have never during their
    growing up years had to choose among relatives for holiday/festive
    celebrations. It is all done together in family support. At first
    some friends that were invited to celebrations were a bit bemused but
    quickly adapted. Life's too short for anything else.
    Janet

    Janet I am so impressed. You are all a blessing to your children and I
    admire you tremendously!

    O

  9. The Boucher-Bostwick Thanksgiving...

    http://leech.dk/bubblegum.php/2-ton-orgy.jpeg

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Michel Boucher said:

    "Janet Bostwick" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    snip

    Quoted message said:

    >
    > The people there were my son, my wife, her son, her daughter,
    > her granddaughter, and her daughter's boyfriend, and my ex-wife
    > (daughter's mother). It was the best supper yet.

    Your wife AND your ex-wife... [don't ask]... why did you divorce
    her? Why didn't you Mormonize...?


    My husband and ex-husband, his wife and ex-wife, his in-laws, my
    in-laws, all their children. . .the children have never during
    their growing up years had to choose among relatives for
    holiday/festive celebrations. It is all done together in family
    support. At first some friends that were invited to celebrations
    were a bit bemused but quickly adapted. Life's too short for
    anything else. Janet

    Normally, my ex would have been in Vancouver with my daughter but she
    was hospitalized earlier this month and as she has no family here, we
    asked her if she would join us.

    Trust Sheldingdong to see something sleazy in being nice.

    Of course, we tend to see ourselves in situations. Something tells me
    that Sheldon doesn't have a good relationship with his ex, that he still
    has the hots for her and that she dumped him.

    It is unfortunate, but even after two people fell in love, got married
    and shared a life, the process of the marriage breaking up and the ugly
    facts of divorce sometimes turns that love into hate. We've all seen
    it, over and over. Other couples have problems with the breakup, but it
    doesn't turn into hate. A few couples come to a mutual agreement to
    breakup, work everything out to their satisfaction, and remain friendly,
    just not in a marriage relationship.

    The former minister of our church took it one step further. His ex was
    one of his best friends. He and his second wife went up every summmer
    and spent a week with her, her husband and their children. They stayed
    at the ex's house.

    I don't know how it is for Michel and Janet, but spending a holiday meal
    with your ex, especially when you share children in common, seems
    unexceptional.

    --
    Dan Abel
    [email hidden]
    Petaluma, California, USA

  11. I have so much respect for people who can do that. Personally, I can't
    stand my daughter's dad and wouldn't welcome him as a houseguest, but
    my BF's mom is best friends with his dad's new wife. She divorced his
    dad 23 years ago; he married another woman who was her best friend at
    the time; divorced her 2 year later, and married wife #3. Now he,
    ex-wie#1, and ex-wife #3 spend all their holiday together; the 2 women
    go shopping on weekends, they are all good friends. She says, "I could
    never be married to that man, I feel sorry for Christine (current
    wife)! So nice that I don't have to be the one to go home with him."
    But they remain cordial; it's a different relationship. It's nice to
    see. A little strange, but very nice.

  12. Dan Abel <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Normally, my ex would have been in Vancouver with my daughter but
    she was hospitalized earlier this month and as she has no family
    here, we asked her if she would join us.

    Trust Sheldingdong to see something sleazy in being nice.

    Of course, we tend to see ourselves in situations. Something
    tells me that Sheldon doesn't have a good relationship with his
    ex, that he still has the hots for her and that she dumped him.

    We have been separated for more than 24 years. Anyone who carries a
    grudge that long when there was no violence or abuse has got to have an
    emotional screw or two loose.

    --

    "Et nunc reges intelligite erudmini, qui judicatis terram."

    "Rancor is an outpouring of a feeling of inferiority."

    Jose Ortega Y Gasset

  13. Michel Boucher said:

    Usually, in preparation for Emmanuelmas dinner, I am harried and
    exhausted. Things are not times properly and so everything gets
    rushed and I run out of space. This year, it all got done, we sat
    down and ate and everything went fine.

    Our Christmas dinner turned out great. The only problem was my wife's
    last minute hissy fit, which served to reinforce my rule about not
    allowing her into the kitchen when I am cooking. She does a wonderful
    job of salads and table setting, and she is capable of making a meal for
    us, but she gets frazzled under the pressure of cooking for a crowd. That
    shouldn't be a problem if I look after the cooking.

    She picked up the turkey on Saturday afternoon. It was a 15 lb. bird.
    According to my cooking chart, it would take 5 1/4 hours at 325. I got
    up at 9 am and prepared the stuffing, crammed it into the bird so that it
    was all set to go into the oven at noon with the intention of being ready
    to come out at 5:15 and sit while I prepared the rest. My mother brought
    a casserole that needed 40 minutes at a higher heat. I had potatoes and
    turnip peeled, cut and sitting in pots of water ready to go. She had made
    a salad that needed to sit in the fridge for 4 hours and we had a bag of
    salad that just needed some sliced onion and tomato.

    At 5:00 I turned on the burners under the potatoes and the turnip. At
    5:15 I pulled the turkey out. It looked great. I pulled on a leg and it
    came apart. It was done. My son tasted a piece of turkey that fell off
    and pronounced it to be perfect. My wife was horrified. She thought I
    took it out an hour early and thought everything was off schedule. I was
    convinced everything was running smoothly, except her increasing anxiety.
    She was running around in circles and complaining that I had thrown off
    her timing. My son and I were wondering what schedule, since I was aiming
    for 6 pm dinner, and everything is going to be ready in time. There I was
    preparing gravy, mashing spuds, mashing turnip, casserole is cooking. My
    son opened up the bag off salad, added onion and tomato, dressed it, took
    it to the table. He took out the other salad, retrieved serving dishes.
    I put everything in the serving dishes and we took them out. My wife is
    still running around fretting. We sat down, waited for her to stop
    running around. I started curving the bird, which being perfectly cooked
    and having sat for 45 minutes is carving beautifully. The stuffing was
    good.

    Everything was good. The only problem we had had was the hassle of her
    frustration over nothing. But that is the reason that I do the cooking.
    I learned a long time ago about timing, allotting prep time, cooking
    time, a little time for contingencies. I am able to multi task enough to
    cope with a dinner for 10. She can't. It's not a problem, but I have to
    make sure that I keep her out of the kitchen. Her sister suggested that
    next year we send her out to the store for something a half hour before
    dinner :-)

  14. Dave Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    The only problem was my wife's
    last minute hissy fit, which served to reinforce my rule about not
    allowing her into the kitchen when I am cooking.

    Excellent rule. Although I tried unsuccessfully many times in the
    past, I succeeded this year by having her do the baking before 11AM.
    She had nothing to do in the kitchen after that so stayed out of my
    way. Usually she's hovering around the sink. Every time I need access
    she's standing in front hogging the space or leabing over to the stove
    as I'm trying to open the oven. Recipe (ObFood) for disaster if ever
    there was one. I think I still have the burn scars on my arm to prove
    it.

    Earlier today, she mentioned going back to doing a whole bird next
    year. I cringe at the thought of what that will entail.

    Right now we have 15 thick slices of cooked stuffed turkey breast meat
    in the freezer and some not frozen. For she-who-insists-on-having-
    leftovers, I think she's being disingenuous. For once I meet her needs
    in spades and she's unsatisfied...oy...

    Here are two photos of one of the stuffed breasts before I sliced it to
    freeze:

    http://alsandor.net/photos/turkey/picture_001.jpg

    http://alsandor.net/photos/turkey/picture_002.jpg

    --

    "Et nunc reges intelligite erudmini, qui judicatis terram."

    "Rancor is an outpouring of a feeling of inferiority."

    Jose Ortega Y Gasset

  15. On Wed 28 Dec 2005 11:27:39a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Michel
    Boucher?

    Quoted message said:

    Dave Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    The only problem was my wife's
    last minute hissy fit, which served to reinforce my rule about not
    allowing her into the kitchen when I am cooking.

    Excellent rule. Although I tried unsuccessfully many times in the
    past, I succeeded this year by having her do the baking before 11AM.
    She had nothing to do in the kitchen after that so stayed out of my
    way. Usually she's hovering around the sink. Every time I need access
    she's standing in front hogging the space or leabing over to the stove
    as I'm trying to open the oven. Recipe (ObFood) for disaster if ever
    there was one. I think I still have the burn scars on my arm to prove
    it.

    Earlier today, she mentioned going back to doing a whole bird next
    year. I cringe at the thought of what that will entail.

    Right now we have 15 thick slices of cooked stuffed turkey breast meat
    in the freezer and some not frozen. For she-who-insists-on-having-
    leftovers, I think she's being disingenuous. For once I meet her needs
    in spades and she's unsatisfied...oy...

    Here are two photos of one of the stuffed breasts before I sliced it to
    freeze:

    http://alsandor.net/photos/turkey/picture_001.jpg

    http://alsandor.net/photos/turkey/picture_002.jpg

    The turkey breast looks delicious, Michel!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    __________________________________________________________________
    And if we enter a room full of manure, may we believe in the pony.

  16. Michel Boucher said:

    Dave Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    The only problem was my wife's
    last minute hissy fit, which served to reinforce my rule about not
    allowing her into the kitchen when I am cooking.

    Excellent rule.

    I thought so. Everything had been left up to me. I had told people to come
    at 5 for 6 pm dinner. My mother is diabetic and has to eat at regular
    hours. Everything was under control. I don't know why she was in there
    ranting just at the point where I was really multi-tasking, making gravy,
    mashed potatoes and turnip. All she had to do was tell me which serving
    dishes she wanted (a decision I am not qualified to make) and open a bag of
    salad.

    It is a family trait with her. Her mother was the same, and her sister is
    too. She would have been that way if she was trying to do it herself, but I
    can't figure why she feels the need to worry about it when I am doing it.

    Quoted message said:

    lthough I tried unsuccessfully many times in the
    past, I succeeded this year by having her do the baking before 11AM.
    She had nothing to do in the kitchen after that so stayed out of my
    way. Usually she's hovering around the sink. Every time I need access
    she's standing in front hogging the space or leabing over to the stove
    as I'm trying to open the oven. Recipe (ObFood) for disaster if ever
    there was one. I think I still have the burn scars on my arm to prove
    it.

    The worst is when I am working around the hot stove and she sneaks over to
    put something in the garbage can under the sink. Instead of waiting until
    the way is clear, she ducks down and scoots in behind me. The last time she
    did that I was turning around to pour some hot water into the sink, didn't
    see her and almost fell over her. Then there is the compulsion to sit or
    work at the end of the kitchen table in front of fridge door instead of one
    of the chairs on the side or the other end of the table.

    Quoted message said:

    Earlier today, she mentioned going back to doing a whole bird next
    year. I cringe at the thought of what that will entail.

    Whole birds are not a problem. Make up a stuffing, cram it in. Stick it in
    the oven and use the chart from the Laura Secord cookbook. It has never let
    me down.

    Quoted message said:

    Right now we have 15 thick slices of cooked stuffed turkey breast meat
    in the freezer and some not frozen. For she-who-insists-on-having-
    leftovers, I think she's being disingenuous. For once I meet her needs
    in spades and she's unsatisfied...oy...

    I am having reheated Turkey Divan (Divine?) ... leftover leftovers. I
    don't want to see another turkey until next Christmas.

    Quoted message said:

    Here are two photos of one of the stuffed breasts before I sliced it to
    freeze:

    http://alsandor.net/photos/turkey/picture_001.jpg

    http://alsandor.net/photos/turkey/picture_002.jpg

    Looks great.
    I wouldn't dare show a picture of a bird that I had carved. The first few
    slices came off nicely, but by the time everyone had been served the thing
    looked like a flock of vultures had attacked it.

  17. "Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Michel Boucher said:

    Dave Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    The only problem was my wife's
    last minute hissy fit, which served to reinforce my rule about not
    allowing her into the kitchen when I am cooking.

    Excellent rule.

    I thought so. Everything had been left up to me. I had told people to
    come
    at 5 for 6 pm dinner. My mother is diabetic and has to eat at regular
    hours. Everything was under control. I don't know why she was in
    there
    ranting just at the point where I was really multi-tasking, making
    gravy,
    mashed potatoes and turnip. All she had to do was tell me which
    serving
    dishes she wanted (a decision I am not qualified to make) and open a
    bag of
    salad.

    It is a family trait with her. Her mother was the same, and her sister
    is
    too. She would have been that way if she was trying to do it herself,
    but I
    can't figure why she feels the need to worry about it when I am doing
    it.

    Quoted message said:

    lthough I tried unsuccessfully many times in the
    past, I succeeded this year by having her do the baking before 11AM.
    She had nothing to do in the kitchen after that so stayed out of my
    way. Usually she's hovering around the sink. Every time I need
    access
    she's standing in front hogging the space or leabing over to the
    stove
    as I'm trying to open the oven. Recipe (ObFood) for disaster if ever
    there was one. I think I still have the burn scars on my arm to
    prove
    it.

    The worst is when I am working around the hot stove and she sneaks
    over to
    put something in the garbage can under the sink. Instead of waiting
    until
    the way is clear, she ducks down and scoots in behind me. The last
    time she
    did that I was turning around to pour some hot water into the sink,
    didn't
    see her and almost fell over her. Then there is the compulsion to sit
    or
    work at the end of the kitchen table in front of fridge door instead
    of one
    of the chairs on the side or the other end of the table.

    Quoted message said:

    Earlier today, she mentioned going back to doing a whole bird next
    year. I cringe at the thought of what that will entail.

    Whole birds are not a problem. Make up a stuffing, cram it in. Stick
    it in
    the oven and use the chart from the Laura Secord cookbook. It has
    never let
    me down.

    Quoted message said:

    Right now we have 15 thick slices of cooked stuffed turkey breast
    meat
    in the freezer and some not frozen. For she-who-insists-on-having-
    leftovers, I think she's being disingenuous. For once I meet her
    needs
    in spades and she's unsatisfied...oy...

    I am having reheated Turkey Divan (Divine?) ... leftover leftovers. I
    don't want to see another turkey until next Christmas.

    Quoted message said:

    Here are two photos of one of the stuffed breasts before I sliced it
    to
    freeze:

    http://alsandor.net/photos/turkey/picture_001.jpg

    http://alsandor.net/photos/turkey/picture_002.jpg

    Looks great.
    I wouldn't dare show a picture of a bird that I had carved. The first
    few
    slices came off nicely, but by the time everyone had been served the
    thing
    looked like a flock of vultures had attacked it.

    You two ought to get your own tv show🙂)))

    Ophelia

  18. "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:eJOsf.58231$vl2.30808
    @fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:

    Quoted message said:

    You two ought to get your own tv show🙂)))

    Call it the [censored]' Kitchen?

    I'm in as long as Nigella Lawson is our only guest throughout the first
    season.

    --

    "Et nunc reges intelligite erudmini, qui judicatis terram."

    "Rancor is an outpouring of a feeling of inferiority."

    Jose Ortega Y Gasset

  19. "Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:eJOsf.58231$vl2.30808
    @fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:

    Quoted message said:

    You two ought to get your own tv show🙂)))

    Call it the [censored]' Kitchen?

    I'm in as long as Nigella Lawson is our only guest throughout the
    first
    season.

    hehe!!

  20. Wayne Boatwright said:

    Psst! What's the secret ingredient? I love new ways with cranberries.

    My mom makes the greatest Cranberry and Jalapeno chutney. It goes
    great with turkey. Cranberry and Habanero is another great combo.
    Sweet and spicy.

    Justen

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