the UCI seat set-back rule and Landis

Quoted message said:

Should there be an exception to the UCI seat set-back rule for riders
who, due to medical/morphological reasons, are handicapped by its
application? Discuss.

Andy Coggan

AFAIK, there are allowances for the ridiculously small riders. At a
domestic UCI race, female riders who failed the setback rule were
subjected to a knee over pedal check on the bike. I'm not sure if this
second test happens at the Pro Tour level or not. I think it would be
impossible for tiny people to meet the rules with any production bike
unless they adopted an unrideable position.

However, I thought it was Landis' bar position that was under question,
not his seat set-back???

yeahyeah said:

Quoted message said:

Should there be an exception to the UCI seat set-back rule for riders
who, due to medical/morphological reasons, are handicapped by its
application? Discuss.

Andy Coggan

AFAIK, there are allowances for the ridiculously small riders. At a
domestic UCI race, female riders who failed the setback rule were
subjected to a knee over pedal check on the bike. I'm not sure if this
second test happens at the Pro Tour level or not. I think it would be
impossible for tiny people to meet the rules with any production bike
unless they adopted an unrideable position.

However, I thought it was Landis' bar position that was under question,
not his seat set-back???

You'd think a rider like Johan VanSummeren at 6'5-1/2" would be allowed
to have his aero bars go a bit further forward than the rest of the
gang.

Joseph

Curtis L. Russell said:

Quoted message said:

Should there be an exception to the UCI seat set-back rule for riders
who, due to medical/morphological reasons, are handicapped by its
application? Discuss.

I thought the UCI had authorized the 'break and stretch' method to
adjust riders to a legal UCI bike frame, since this goes back to at
least the Inquisition. If there is anything that the UCI and [censored]
Pound agree with, its the Inquisition. Not that DP has anything to do
with authorizing equipment. Yet.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Agreed. Procrustean methods are best.

-RJ

Quoted message said:

Should there be an exception to the UCI seat set-back rule for riders
who, due to medical/morphological reasons, are handicapped by its
application? Discuss.

I thought the UCI had authorized the 'break and stretch' method to
adjust riders to a legal UCI bike frame, since this goes back to at
least the Inquisition. If there is anything that the UCI and [censored]
Pound agree with, its the Inquisition. Not that DP has anything to do
with authorizing equipment. Yet.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Quoted message said:

Should there be an exception to the UCI seat set-back rule for riders
who, due to medical/morphological reasons, are handicapped by its
application? Discuss.

Andy Coggan

http://www.electrabike.com/04/images/06bikes/streamride/large/s06_25.jpg

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Should there be an exception to the UCI seat set-back rule for riders
who, due to medical/morphological reasons, are handicapped by its
application? Discuss.

Andy Coggan

http://www.electrabike.com/04/images/06bikes/streamride/large/s06_25.jpg

Straight up -- I love that bike.

--
Snippy

[email hidden] schreef:

Quoted message said:

Should there be an exception to the UCI seat set-back rule for riders
who, due to medical/morphological reasons, are handicapped by its
application? Discuss.

No. They should move on to lightweight rowing, basketball for under 5ft6
or some other handicapped sport where they may still excel at a fake
elite level.

--
E. Dronkert

yeahyeah said:

Quoted message said:

Should there be an exception to the UCI seat set-back rule for riders
who, due to medical/morphological reasons, are handicapped by its
application? Discuss.

Andy Coggan

AFAIK, there are allowances for the ridiculously small riders. At a
domestic UCI race, female riders who failed the setback rule were
subjected to a knee over pedal check on the bike. I'm not sure if this
second test happens at the Pro Tour level or not. I think it would be
impossible for tiny people to meet the rules with any production bike
unless they adopted an unrideable position.

However, I thought it was Landis' bar position that was under question,
not his seat set-back???

I was referring to the fact that, even if he avails himself of the
"anatomical exception" (as did the women you mention), he still can't
get his saddle far enough forward to avoid having to sit on the very
tip of it. So, the question is, should there be an exception (or an
exception to the exception) for riders like Landis?

Andy Coggan

Quoted message said:

I was referring to the fact that, even if he avails himself of the
"anatomical exception" (as did the women you mention), he still can't
get his saddle far enough forward to avoid having to sit on the very
tip of it.

he's not required to sit right on the tip of it.

Dan Connelly said:

Quoted message said:

Should there be an exception to the UCI seat set-back rule for riders
who, due to medical/morphological reasons, are handicapped by its
application? Discuss.

Andy Coggan

http://www.electrabike.com/04/images/06bikes/streamride/large/s06_25.jpg

That bike looks like a triathlon bike compared to this one:

http://www.nirve.com/cruisers.asp?cat=chopper&cid=580.04

Joseph