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I guess some people can't see the truth even it stares them straight in the
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http://www.tylerhamilton.com/guestbook94.html

Same people who think Bush has made their world safer and more secure. Oh,
what have I done...........

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I guess some people can't see the truth even it stares them straight in

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eye.

http://www.tylerhamilton.com/guestbook94.html

Same people who think Bush has made their world safer and more secure.

Oh,

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what have I done...........

OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is found
to be waist deep in [censored], then that's the last straw for me. I don't follow
the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly just
enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie. Now if someday these
babes are found to be knee deep in [censored] as well, I will yell Boo Hoo, but I
won't quite following the womens events. I still like the babes of cycling,
poetry in motion, all the climbers and sprinters, trackies and the like. The
women don't race for the big money so I guess there is less pressure to
cheat to get results. I would like to think most of the girls are clean. I
like the girls anyway, underdogs, second fiddle to the men.

I suppose someone is writing a book that will go underground...

(How to use drugs in cycling without getting caught)

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The
women don't race for the big money so I guess there is less pressure to
cheat to get results. I would like to think most of the girls are clean. I
like the girls anyway, underdogs, second fiddle to the men.

A woman might have more incentive to cheat. Every bit of prize money
received and every preme won is often needed just to keep racing at
all-a lot like a t3 male pro. Steroids are cheap and very effective for
women users. But I hope you're right.

-WG

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:09 -0700, "Sierraman" <[email hidden]>

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OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is found
to be waist deep in [censored], then that's the last straw for me. I don't follow
the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly just
enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie.

Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been alleged
to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following cycling
in the last year. Just curious, iow.

-B

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:23:34 -0400, Badger_South <[email hidden]>

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Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been alleged
to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following cycling
in the last year.

Perhaps you didn't follow cycling in the Olympics then. Google Calle
and medal.

JT

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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:09 -0700, "Sierraman" <[email hidden]>

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OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is

found

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to be waist deep in [censored], then that's the last straw for me. I don't

follow

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the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly

just

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enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie.

Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been

alleged

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to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following

cycling

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in the last year. Just curious, iow.

Amber Neben had a run in. Google her. Jeanson has been suspect.

You can check this...

http://cyclisme.dopage.free.fr/annuaire.htm#Femmes

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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:09 -0700, "Sierraman" <[email hidden]>

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OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is

found

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to be waist deep in [censored], then that's the last straw for me. I don't

follow

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the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly

just

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enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie.

Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been

alleged

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to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following

cycling

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in the last year. Just curious, iow.

-B

The poster child for women doping...Tammy Thomas was banned for life.

warren said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Sierraman

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women don't race for the big money so I guess there is less

pressure to

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cheat to get results. I would like to think most of the girls are

clean. I

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like the girls anyway, underdogs, second fiddle to the men.

A woman might have more incentive to cheat. Every bit of prize money
received and every preme won is often needed just to keep racing at
all-a lot like a t3 male pro. Steroids are cheap and very effective

for

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women users. But I hope you're right.

Goddamm, you're stupid.

Less money = more incentive to cheat? Moronic.

Would you risk your health and your reputation for $500?

How about for $500,000?

I never did dope, not for the $500 on the line at local Fattie races.
But for hundreds of thousands, I would have given it very serious
consideration.

K. Gringioni

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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:09 -0700, "Sierraman" <[email hidden]>

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OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is

found

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to be waist deep in [censored], then that's the last straw for me. I don't

follow

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the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly

just

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enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie.

Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been

alleged

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to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following

cycling

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in the last year. Just curious, iow.

-B

The poster child for women doping...Tammy Thomas was banned for life.

http://www.uci.ch/data_2001/track/worlds/pix/sf_podium.jpg

Hmm, looks like a guy in a wig. ;-)

-B

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Would you risk your health and your reputation for $500?

ROTFL

"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I never did dope, not for the $500 on the line at local Fattie races.
But for hundreds of thousands, I would have given it very serious
consideration.

Why am I not surprised?

Andy Coggan

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Goddamm, you're stupid.

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Less money = more incentive to cheat? Moronic.

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Would you risk your health and your reputation for $500?

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How about for $500,000?

I used to believe in the profit motive to doping as
outlined above. Tammy Thomas changed my mind. I now
believe there are non-monetary rewards that are
valued highly enough to cause people to do goofy
[censored] that is not justified by the financial returns
alone.

You can see examples of this at just about any local
race. If you go to Superweek you can see it in bulk.
Dave Fuentes is probably the best known example of
doping for profit at that level, and he'd be better
off financially if he just went out and got a job.

Bob Schwartz
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:09 -0700, "Sierraman" <[email hidden]>
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>OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
>doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is

found

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>to be waist deep in [censored], then that's the last straw for me. I don't

follow

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>the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly

just

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>enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie.

Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been

alleged

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to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following

cycling

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in the last year. Just curious, iow.

-B

The poster child for women doping...Tammy Thomas was banned for life.

http://www.uci.ch/data_2001/track/worlds/pix/sf_podium.jpg

Hmm, looks like a guy in a wig. ;-)

-B

Check out the edition of today's (24-Sep-04) letters to
Cyclingnews.com and tell me that most of the American public is snowed
under by Hamilton being purely innocent even though some of the
evidence, so far, suggests otherwise. People are crazy! An
American doping? NEVER! Sheep...

Tom

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and he'd be better
off financially if he just went out and got a job.

Work wouldn't be as fun, though. Prolonged adolescence, that's what
he's living for. Eternal frat boy.

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Check out the edition of today's (24-Sep-04) letters to
Cyclingnews.com and tell me that most of the American public is snowed
under by Hamilton being purely innocent even though some of the
evidence, so far, suggests otherwise. People are crazy! An
American doping? NEVER! Sheep...

Nothing wrong with waiting till all the evidence is seen. It does look
bad at the moment for Tyler. In America it is innocent until proven guilty
beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Alex

Andy Coggan said:

"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I never did dope, not for the $500 on the line at local Fattie

races.

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But for hundreds of thousands, I would have given it very serious
consideration.

Why am I not surprised?

Andy Coggan

Dumbass -

Just because you won't doesn't mean others won't. Considering how many
people pay for the privilege of dumping illegal drugs into their bodies
in the hopes of having a good time, you can be sure that even more
would be willing to do it when there's money to be made.
K. Gringioni
not as ego-centric as Cooglian

Bob Schwartz said:

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Goddamm, you're stupid.

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Less money = more incentive to cheat? Moronic.

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Would you risk your health and your reputation for $500?

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How about for $500,000?

I used to believe in the profit motive to doping as
outlined above. Tammy Thomas changed my mind. I now
believe there are non-monetary rewards that are
valued highly enough to cause people to do goofy
[censored] that is not justified by the financial returns
alone.

Dumbass -

You're missing the point. Warren was arguing that less money = more
incentive.

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warren wrote:

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Goddamm, you're stupid.

Less money = more incentive to cheat? Moronic.

Would you risk your health and your reputation for $500?

How about for $500,000?

I never did dope, not for the $500 on the line at local Fattie races.
But for hundreds of thousands, I would have given it very serious
consideration.

K. Gringioni

I couldn't agree more. Basically there are 5 cyclist in the US that
are allowed to dope based on Salaries. All other are [censored].*** By
the way what really hurts the average "pro" cyclist is that even if
they doped to the gills they probably wouldn't be make a real living
out of the sport do to lack of talent.

1. Lance
2. Tyler
3. George
4. Levi
5. Freddy
6. ***Special excemption
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7. Tom D. maybe next year

RVD
*** Special excemption. I am assuming that even most loser cyclist
could make a reasonable living doing something else, and would be
better off financially. If you tell me that cycling was your way out
off the mean streets of Santa Monica, Cal and it was either dope and
make $10k a year as a cyclist or a life of crime and stealing [censored] out
of my luxury auto when I park at night, you too can be on the list of
allowed dopers.

Just curious, how's the Santa Monica pier doing these days? That place used
to be pretty cool when I was a kid. Old guys playing chess, P.O.P. and of
course all the cool shops both on the pier and just slightly inland. I heard
Maria Shriver was shopping over there the other day. Isn't that Brat pack
country?

Wait you have to be able to make more in earnings than you spend to
make that. $2000 per year in EPO to win $200 is not great when you
consider that you have to spend you weekends with geeky cyclist. Now
$2k for recreational drugs to party with some hot chicks (not animated
kind like Jame likes) that is a good time. I mean ulitimately what is
the point of professional sports, but to make enough cash that you can
live the rock star lifestyle and party with hot chicks. Spending your
weekend in modesto, ca at the first NRC race of the year loaded up on
EPO, hanging with a bunch of dudes who have never seen a naked girl is
gayer than gay. You will not get laid that way. You are better off just
getting a job. TIP TO ALL WOULD BE PROS. Chicks don't think its cool
when you have to mooch money off them to pay your bills, or borrow
there car to go to your "pro" race. Now if you tell me you race because
you enjoy the healthy lifestyle, the competition, and seeing how far
you can push yourself then you probabably are in the right frame of
mind and drugs won't play a roll in your racing.

RVD