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  1. Dunno if anyone remembers but last year I took a ~200 km loop to the town
    of Bolton, Ont and related the experience here. Nothing special about the
    town or the trip except that I spent a few teen years there 20 plus years
    ago. Returning after 2 decades was definitely a zen thing - symbolically
    travelling back in time.

    This summer I am pondering a much larger foray, spiritually speaking. I am
    considering to take the train to Halifax NS, travelling the South Shore to
    the town of my birth [well not technically born there - that took place two
    towns over in the nearest hospital] I figure that the trip will be nothing
    huge, ~600 km or so. But as a journey of something like 25 years in time - a
    symbolic circumnavigation to the beginning.

    When you think of the path your life takes to get you where you are now...
    then look back to your beginning. Where your childhood was played out, where
    what is _you_ was formed.... where your parents rest.

    Ya, anyone can take trains plane or autos to visit your past but making the
    journey [at least the last part] simply by virtue of your own power, legs
    powering the bike, your body the only machine, make the journey a
    psychological pilgrimage.

    To see what has changed, what hasn't, who left my small town, who stayed.
    remember playing in that tree, in that brook, the place you first kissed a
    girl.... the stretch of street where you first solo-ed without training
    wheels.... the place where you learned to swim...

    Or maybe I'm just being overly melodramatic.

    Anyone else consider cycling as the search for... the zen?

    .... the tao?

    .... epiphany?

    .... self-discovery?

    --
    'the place I come from
    is with me all the time' -meredith brooks

  2. Mon, 07 Jun 2004 04:46:26 GMT,
    <[email hidden]>,

    loki said:

    Anyone else consider cycling as the search for... the zen?

    ... the tao?

    ... epiphany?

    ... self-discovery?

    No. You'll get there anyway in your own time.
    It's not a goal, it's a process. Just ride and there you are.
    --
    zk

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    loki said:

    Or maybe I'm just being overly melodramatic.

    Anyone else consider cycling as the search for... the zen?

    ... the tao?

    ... epiphany?

    ... self-discovery?

    You might be interested in reading 'Coming Together - A 10,000
    Mile Bicycle Journey', by Brock Tully.

    cheers,
    Tom

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  4. Zoot Katz wrote: (clip) It's not a goal, it's a process. Just ride
    and there you are.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Thank you. That line is going to increase my enjoyment of riding
    greatly, by changing my attitude ever so slightly.

  5. Quoted message said:

    You might be interested in reading 'Coming Together - A 10,000
    Mile Bicycle Journey', by Brock Tully.

    Or you might try reading "Trying to Go Home Again" in the book TALES FROM THE
    ID...by yours truly.

    James S. Prine
    http://hometown.aol.com/jsprine/

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (James S. Prine) said:
    Quoted message said:

    You might be interested in reading 'Coming Together - A 10,000
    Mile Bicycle Journey', by Brock Tully.

    Or you might try reading "Trying to Go Home Again" in the book TALES FROM THE
    ID...by yours truly.

    James S. Prine
    http://hometown.aol.com/jsprine/

    I'll look for it. Thanks. Already the title has suddenly
    reminded of a long-forgotten (by me) Stevie Winwood song :-)

    cheers,
    Tom

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  7. Quoted message said:

    I am considering to take the train to Halifax NS

    I have taken the train [VIA] to Halifax from Vancouver, in 1992. It was
    a good ride, and an excellent way to see the country. I've also taken a
    couple of extended bike tours out of Halifax [round-trips to Prince
    Edward Island, and to New Brunswick]. Good touring there.

  8. Zoot Katz said:

    No. You'll get there anyway in your own time. It's not a goal, it's a
    process. Just ride and there you are.
    --
    zk

    Nice expression

    --

  9. "loki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Returning after 2 decades was definitely a zen thing - symbolically
    travelling back in time.

    I'm not so sure it was a "zen" thing. Typically in Zen one finds
    enlightenment while engaged in the ordinary: slicing carrots, taking a bath,
    sweeping the floor. This trip sounds like it was outside of your ordinary
    routine. Perhaps what made it Zen was the realization of impermanence. When
    you return to a place you haven't been to in twenty years, it changes; or if
    it hasn't visibly changed, you realize that it is you who has changed.

    Quoted message said:

    Or maybe I'm just being overly melodramatic.

    No, I don't think so. By going back to places, you can reconcile them, put
    them in their proper perspective, see them through your adult, and not your
    kid eyes.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone else consider cycling as the search for... the zen?

    ... the tao?

    ... epiphany?

    ... self-discovery?

    Sometimes cycling just provides a space. Yesterday I spent most of the day
    on a business trip, rising at 5:00 AM, going to the airport, flying to a
    city just too far to drive to, having meetings, and then flying back. At
    5:30 PM I was supposed to be at a workshop to discuss pedestrian and bicycle
    facilities for a stretch of roadway near my home that I knew would be very
    contentious. I had just enough time to pull in to the driveway, strip off my
    suit and silk blouse, put on a t and bike shorts, and hit the road to get to
    the meeting. I could have driven straight there, but riding the bike gave me
    an interval of separation between being on that trip, and being in that
    workshop. When the workshop was over, the ride home made another interval,
    this one between the workshop and being at home.

    I couldn't drop all the monkey chatter in the brain that the workshop
    produced -- I was still chewing on all the things I should have said, my
    desire to slap various people in the face, and so on. But it was still
    better processed than if I had just driven home.

    Perhaps by cycling to the places of your past, you are also creating the
    interior space to process your memories of these place, and the feelings
    both the memories and the sight of these places today generate.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    Please replace earthlink for mouse-potato and .net for .com
    Home of the meditative cyclist:
    http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm
    See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

  10. "Zoot Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Mon, 07 Jun 2004 04:46:26 GMT,
    <[email hidden]>,

    loki said:

    Anyone else consider cycling as the search for... the zen?

    ... the tao?

    ... epiphany?

    ... self-discovery?

    No. You'll get there anyway in your own time.
    It's not a goal, it's a process.

    Can it not be both?

  11. "LioNiNoiL_a t_Ne t s c a pE_D 0 T_Ne T" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:93txc.2271$K45.1990@fed1read02...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am considering to take the train to Halifax NS

    I have taken the train [VIA] to Halifax from Vancouver, in 1992. It was
    a good ride, and an excellent way to see the country. I've also taken a
    couple of extended bike tours out of Halifax [round-trips to Prince
    Edward Island, and to New Brunswick]. Good touring there.

    Ya, my provisional itinerary is to get off the train at Truro. That is at
    the tip Bay of Fundy where the highest recorded tides ever occurred [16.27
    meters (53.38 feet)]. Average tides are in the neighbourhood of 12 meters
    (~42 feet) Think of it; a tidal ebb an flow equal to a 4 or 5 story
    building.

    Any ways I figure I'll ride along the Fundy coast for 2-3 days before
    turning to cross the body of Nova Scotia. From there I'll take in the south
    shore between Halifax and Lunenburg - the specific part of NS I'm from.

    I'm figuring 50 km a day will be a reasonable pace allowing for stops and
    side trips and soaking up local flavour. Hey, maybe I'll even locate my long
    lost East cost accent.

    --
    'I'm a man.
    But I can change.
    If I have to. -Red Green's
    I guess.' The Man's Prayer

  12. "Claire Petersky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:MqExc.72023$Ly.37774@attbi_s01...

    Quoted message said:

    "loki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Returning after 2 decades was definitely a zen thing - symbolically
    travelling back in time.

    I'm not so sure it was a "zen" thing. Typically in Zen one finds
    enlightenment while engaged in the ordinary: slicing carrots, taking a


    bath,

    Quoted message said:

    sweeping the floor. This trip sounds like it was outside of your ordinary
    routine. Perhaps what made it Zen was the realization of impermanence.


    When

    Quoted message said:

    you return to a place you haven't been to in twenty years, it changes; or


    if

    Quoted message said:

    it hasn't visibly changed, you realize that it is you who has changed.

    Or all of the above.

    Ya.

    There are two parts I guess. One is the cycling part which is a time for
    reflection regardless of the where's, when's or how longs. I ponder what
    Pinky and the Brain ponders whether it be a 100 km challenge or a 7 km
    commute/utility ride Though the Saturday Night Live 'Deep Thoughts'
    reflections come on stronger for long trips.

    The other part is the nostalgia thang. It seems to happen a lot more
    lately. More probably because I'm but a year and coupla months from being
    *arrrrgghhh* 40 years old.
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps by cycling to the places of your past, you are also creating the
    interior space to process your memories of these place, and the feelings
    both the memories and the sight of these places today generate.

    Maybe coming to terms with where one is at, where one came from, where one
    is going. Coming to terms with past choices. You know some form of temporary
    insanity known as midlife crisis.

    🙂

    --
    'Keep on riding north and west
    Then circle south and east
    Show me beauty
    but there is no peace.' -rush

  13. loki said:

    Perhaps what made it Zen was the realization of impermanence.
    When

    Quoted message said:

    you return to a place you haven't been to in twenty years, it changes; or


    if

    Quoted message said:

    it hasn't visibly changed, you realize that it is you who has changed.

    Or all of the above.

    Ya.

    There are two parts I guess. One is the cycling part which is a time for
    reflection regardless of the where's, when's or how longs. I ponder what
    Pinky and the Brain ponders whether it be a 100 km challenge or a 7 km
    commute/utility ride Though the Saturday Night Live 'Deep Thoughts'
    reflections come on stronger for long trips.

    The other part is the nostalgia thang. It seems to happen a lot more
    lately. More probably because I'm but a year and coupla months from being
    *arrrrgghhh* 40 years old.
    [...]

    It's a pretty cool idea, IMO. One thing that'll stand out is that the place
    is often a lot smaller (and dirtier) than you remember. 'Course, I grew up
    in Munhall, Pa (a suburb of Pittsburgh - just across the river from the
    Steel Mill). Think red dust over everything each morning...heh.

    Still, it's something worth experiencing, esp. if you're lookin' good and
    some of your childhood friends are still living in the 'hood, haha.

    (One guy, who was the 'Brain' in grade school (I mean -really, really-
    smart), it turned out he never went to college, even though he was an only
    child and had rich 'rents. Wow. Talk about a rush and a disappointment all
    at once. My lifestyle and accomplishments, modest that they are, were
    unbelieveable to him. Anyway, I digress...)

    Let us know how it turns out; do a blog or something!

    -Badger

  14. "loki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    ... the tao?

    ... epiphany?

    ... self-discovery?

    --

    mid-life crisis?

  15. John Allen said:

    mid-life crisis?

    sssshhhhhhh...
    --
    david reuteler
    [email hidden]

  16. << Anyone else consider cycling as the search for... the zen? >

    Nice idea. However, it can prove expensive.

    You can never pedal the same bike twice. :-)

    Todd Strong

  17. "Todd Strong" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    << Anyone else consider cycling as the search for... the zen? >

    Nice idea. However, it can prove expensive.

    You can never pedal the same bike twice. :-)


    That's not Zen. That's having a Platonic relationship with your bike.

  18. "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Let us know how it turns out; do a blog or something!

    I was wondering about that - recording for posterity. Computers have ruined
    me for writing. Buying a notebook pc for the purpose seems bit much even if
    I didn't mind lugging it.

    Mebbe I'll have to reaquaint myself with my penmanship.

    --
    'the place I come from
    is with me all the time' -meredith brooks

  19. loki said:


    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Let us know how it turns out; do a blog or something!

    I was wondering about that - recording for posterity. Computers have ruined
    me for writing. Buying a notebook pc for the purpose seems bit much even if
    I didn't mind lugging it.

    Mebbe I'll have to reaquaint myself with my penmanship.

    Hmm, I-net cafes or public libraries you could use at night, or call it in
    to a friend, or record it on a pocket recorder and transcribe later. Lots
    of options, but yeah, writing at night by the campfire seems nice, too.

    -B

  20. loki said:

    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Let us know how it turns out; do a blog or something!

    I was wondering about that - recording for posterity. Computers have ruined
    me for writing. Buying a notebook pc for the purpose seems bit much even if
    I didn't mind lugging it.

    I've used a PDA with an external keyboard. Smaller, lighter and all
    solid-state so it's less likely to be damaged.

    --

    -John ([email hidden])

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