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  1. This is from an article entitled Talking Back to Breggin, written by Prof.
    Russell Barkley. It addresses the claims of the know nothings about the FDA,
    DEA etc. and the orchestrated rise in MPH production. As some may know,
    Barkely is one of the leading authorities in ADHD diagnosis and treatment.

    http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/NegativeBR/breggin.html

    Special note to Jan Drew: This is a reprint of the original article so read
    it for your education, and you do need one.

    The book's biases and unbalanced scholarsl-lip are evident from the very
    first page of Chapter 1. Here the author quotes that 'The U.S. Drug
    Enforcement Administration ... has warned about a record six-fold increase
    in Ritalin production between 1990 and 1995.' And that "The International
    Narcotics Control Board. . . deplores that 'l 0 to 12 percent' of all boys
    between ages 6 and 14 in the United States have been diagnosed as having ADD
    and are being treated with methylphenidate [Ritalin]." Withheld from the
    reader are the following facts that would have helped to put these
    statements in their proper perspective:

    Ritalin production does not directly equate with Ritalin prescribing, the
    latter being far lower than the former;
    this ridiculously large rise in Ritalin production was largely orchestrated
    by the DEA itself after having been soundly and rightly criticized in 1993
    for allowing a shortfall of this medication to occur in the US. This
    deprived some children in some parts of the country from being able to
    obtain their medication for several months until the DEA corrected its
    mistake. Subsequently, the DEA dramatically raised production quotas so this
    would not happen again;
    it was the DEA that had informed the International Narcotics Control Board
    about the supposedly dramatic rise in Ritalin use in the U.S., and was
    thanked by the Narcotics Control Board for this assistance at its press
    conference, even though the figures cited by the Board were wrong; and
    this press conference was arranged at a time when CHADD, leading scientists,
    the American Academy of Child Neurology, and others had petitioned the
    government (starting with the DEA) to declassify Ritalin out of the category
    of addictive drugs and into a more appropriate category with other
    nonaddictive psychiatric medications -- a petition the DEA did not wish to
    approve.

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Marko Proberto said:

    This is from an article entitled Talking Back to Breggin, written by Prof.
    Russell Barkley. It addresses the claims of the know nothings about the FDA,
    DEA etc. and the orchestrated rise in MPH production. As some may know,
    Barkely is one of the leading authorities in ADHD diagnosis and treatment.

    http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/NegativeBR/breggin.html

    Special note to Jan Drew: This is a reprint of the original article so read
    it for your education, and you do need one.

    Someone's scanner (?) isn't working very well; I've taken it upon
    myself to fix the few weirdnesses in the transcription.

    Quoted message said:

    The book's biases and unbalanced scholarship are evident from the
    very first page of Chapter 1. Here the author quotes that 'The
    U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration ... has warned about a record
    six-fold increase in Ritalin production between 1990 and 1995.' And
    that "The International Narcotics Control Board. . . deplores that
    '10 to 12 percent' of all boys between ages 6 and 14 in the United
    States have been diagnosed as having ADD and are being treated with
    methylphenidate [Ritalin]." Withheld from the reader are the
    following facts that would have helped to put these statements in
    their proper perspective:

    Ritalin production does not directly equate with Ritalin prescribing,
    the latter being far lower than the former; this ridiculously large
    rise in Ritalin production was largely orchestrated by the DEA itself
    after having been soundly and rightly criticized in 1993 for allowing
    a shortfall of this medication to occur in the US. This deprived
    some children in some parts of the country from being able to obtain
    their medication for several months until the DEA corrected its
    mistake. Subsequently, the DEA dramatically raised production quotas
    so this would not happen again; it was the DEA that had informed the
    International Narcotics Control Board about the supposedly dramatic
    rise in Ritalin use in the U.S., and was thanked by the Narcotics
    Control Board for this assistance at its press conference, even
    though the figures cited by the Board were wrong; and this press
    conference was arranged at a time when CHADD, leading scientists, the
    American Academy of Child Neurology, and others had petitioned the
    government (starting with the DEA) to declassify Ritalin out of the
    category of addictive drugs and into a more appropriate category with
    other nonaddictive psychiatric medications -- a petition the DEA did
    not wish to approve.

    Thanks for posting this. It probably won't do any good; Jan and her
    ilk will continue to post their distortions, but the rest of us can
    appreciate the corrections.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The rise in prodcution
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 9/23/2003 6:27 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Marko Proberto said:

    This is from an article entitled Talking Back to Breggin, written by Prof.
    Russell Barkley. It addresses the claims of the know nothings about the FDA,
    DEA etc. and the orchestrated rise in MPH production. As some may know,
    Barkely is one of the leading authorities in ADHD diagnosis and treatment.

    http://www.quack

    The vry worst place on the web for the truth.

    Quack Quack Quack.

  4. (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The rise in prodcution
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 9/23/2003 6:27 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Marko Proberto said:

    This is from an article entitled Talking Back to Breggin, written by Prof.
    Russell Barkley. It addresses the claims of the know nothings about the FDA,
    DEA etc. and the orchestrated rise in MPH production. As some may know,
    Barkely is one of the leading authorities in ADHD diagnosis and treatment.

    http://www.quack

    The vry worst place on the web for the truth.

    Quack Quack Quack.

    So if Dr Barrett reproduced the Gospel According to Saint John on his
    web site it would make the book bad?

    Here's a link for Jan - http://www.amazon.com

    Don't you just hate that lying review on the web site I just cited.
    Why am I so unkind to Jaques Derrida? It must have been me who wrote
    the review - I linked to it (indirectly).

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  5. Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Don't you just hate that lying review on the web site I just cited.
    Why am I so unkind to Jaques Derrida? It must have been me who wrote
    the review - I linked to it (indirectly).

    Resentment at his utter unintelligibility?

  6. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The rise in prodcution
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 9/23/2003 9:49 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The rise in prodcution
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 9/23/2003 6:27 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Marko Proberto <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >This is from an article entitled Talking Back to Breggin, written by Prof.
    >Russell Barkley. It addresses the claims of the know nothings about the


    FDA,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >DEA etc. and the orchestrated rise in MPH production. As some may know,
    >Barkely is one of the leading authorities in ADHD diagnosis and treatment.
    >
    >http://www.quack

    The vry worst place on the web for the truth.

    Quack Quack Quack.

    So if Dr Barrett reproduced the Gospel According to Saint John on his
    web site it would make the book bad?

    Here's a link for Jan - http://www.amazon.com

    Don't you just hate that lying review on the web site I just cited.
    Why am I so unkind to Jaques Derrida? It must have been me who wrote
    the review - I linked to it (indirectly).

    Poor Peter, still trying desperately to get past the hyperlinks on HIS website,
    put them by HIMSELF with his very own fingers, evidently NOT knowing what the
    hyperlink said.

    Digging deeper.

    Jan

    don't give a damn if Peter lied to you, this newsgroup, his mother, or the
    pope.

    Rich Shewmaker Ka Ching

  7. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The rise in prodcution
    From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
    Date: 9/23/2003 11:26 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Don't you just hate that lying review on the web site I just cited.
    Why am I so unkind to Jaques Derrida? It must have been me who wrote
    the review - I linked to it (indirectly).

    Resentment at his utter unintelligibility?

    Nope, Peter's resentment that he got caught AGAIN.

    Jan

    don't give a damn if Peter lied to you, this newsgroup, his mother, or the
    pope.

    Rich Shewmaker Ka Ching

  8. Marko Proberto said:

    this ridiculously large rise in Ritalin production was largely orchestrated
    by the DEA itself

    Interesting..

  9. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Marko Proberto said:

    This is from an article entitled Talking Back to Breggin, written by


    Prof.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Russell Barkley. It addresses the claims of the know nothings about the


    FDA,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    DEA etc. and the orchestrated rise in MPH production. As some may know,
    Barkely is one of the leading authorities in ADHD diagnosis and


    treatment.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/NegativeBR/breggin.html

    Special note to Jan Drew: This is a reprint of the original article so


    read

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it for your education, and you do need one.

    Someone's scanner (?) isn't working very well; I've taken it upon
    myself to fix the few weirdnesses in the transcription.

    Quoted message said:

    The book's biases and unbalanced scholarship are evident from the
    very first page of Chapter 1. Here the author quotes that 'The
    U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration ... has warned about a record
    six-fold increase in Ritalin production between 1990 and 1995.' And
    that "The International Narcotics Control Board. . . deplores that
    '10 to 12 percent' of all boys between ages 6 and 14 in the United
    States have been diagnosed as having ADD and are being treated with
    methylphenidate [Ritalin]." Withheld from the reader are the
    following facts that would have helped to put these statements in
    their proper perspective:

    Ritalin production does not directly equate with Ritalin prescribing,
    the latter being far lower than the former; this ridiculously large
    rise in Ritalin production was largely orchestrated by the DEA itself
    after having been soundly and rightly criticized in 1993 for allowing
    a shortfall of this medication to occur in the US. This deprived
    some children in some parts of the country from being able to obtain
    their medication for several months until the DEA corrected its
    mistake. Subsequently, the DEA dramatically raised production quotas
    so this would not happen again; it was the DEA that had informed the
    International Narcotics Control Board about the supposedly dramatic
    rise in Ritalin use in the U.S., and was thanked by the Narcotics
    Control Board for this assistance at its press conference, even
    though the figures cited by the Board were wrong; and this press
    conference was arranged at a time when CHADD, leading scientists, the
    American Academy of Child Neurology, and others had petitioned the
    government (starting with the DEA) to declassify Ritalin out of the
    category of addictive drugs and into a more appropriate category with
    other nonaddictive psychiatric medications -- a petition the DEA did
    not wish to approve.

    Thanks for posting this. It probably won't do any good; Jan and her
    ilk will continue to post their distortions, but the rest of us can
    appreciate the corrections.

    It also dispels the lie that it was CHADD only that petitioned for a change
    in schedule. Many o fthe liars do not know how difficult it is to get the
    doctors to write a monthly script for a medication. Some people have
    prescription plans, and cannot use a local pharmacy, and need to mail away a
    script every month. It is just one more burden on parents who are dealing
    with the family consuming problem of ADHD.

  10. "jake" <nospamhere@all> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Marko Proberto said:

    this ridiculously large rise in Ritalin production was largely


    orchestrated

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    by the DEA itself

    Interesting..

    I thought so, too. Then, I asked myself why? I looked and could not find a
    good reason, but, using my keen powers of idle conjecture, I concluded that
    the DEA is a political being, looking to maintain its turf, and this is but
    one more way for them to do so.

  11. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The rise in prodcution
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 9/23/2003 6:27 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Marko Proberto said:

    This is from an article entitled Talking Back to Breggin, written by


    Prof.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Russell Barkley. It addresses the claims of the know nothings about the


    FDA,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    DEA etc. and the orchestrated rise in MPH production. As some may know,
    Barkely is one of the leading authorities in ADHD diagnosis and


    treatment.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    http://www.quack

    The vry worst place on the web for the truth.

    It is a reprint from other sources you cowardly nitwit. Dr. Barley is a well
    respected expert in ADHD research, diagnosis and treatment. The site merely
    publishes his article.

    Note that Mercola paid barrett and not vice versa.

  12. Marcurio Probertio said:


    "jake" <nospamhere@all> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Marko Proberto said:

    this ridiculously large rise in Ritalin production was largely


    orchestrated

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    by the DEA itself

    Interesting..

    I thought so, too. Then, I asked myself why? I looked and could not find a
    good reason, but, using my keen powers of idle conjecture, I concluded that
    the DEA is a political being, looking to maintain its turf, and this is but
    one more way for them to do so.

    Stan Cohen taught me that "It doesnt matter what the question is..the
    answer is power."

    Quoted message said:


  13. Marcurio Probertio said:

    "jake" <nospamhere@all> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Marko Proberto said:

    this ridiculously large rise in Ritalin production was largely


    orchestrated

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    by the DEA itself

    Interesting..

    I thought so, too. Then, I asked myself why? I looked and could not find a
    good reason, but, using my keen powers of idle conjecture, I concluded that
    the DEA is a political being, looking to maintain its turf, and this is but
    one more way for them to do so.

    WHAT??? DEA *political?*

    I suppose next thing you'll tell us is that DEA is a division of the Department
    of Justice--law enforcement guys.

    (Huh? They *are* under DoJ? Oh.)

    Never mind.

    Joe Parsons

  14. Joe Parsons said:


    Marcurio Probertio said:

    "jake" <nospamhere@all> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:41:56 GMT, "Marko Proberto"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >this ridiculously large rise in Ritalin production was largely


    orchestrated

    Quoted message said:

    >by the DEA itself

    Interesting..

    I thought so, too. Then, I asked myself why? I looked and could not find a
    good reason, but, using my keen powers of idle conjecture, I concluded that
    the DEA is a political being, looking to maintain its turf, and this is but
    one more way for them to do so.

    WHAT??? DEA *political?*

    I suppose next thing you'll tell us is that DEA is a division of the Department
    of Justice--law enforcement guys.

    (Huh? They *are* under DoJ? Oh.)

    Never mind.

    But surely the DEA follows in the proud professional tradition
    established by its predecessor, the BNDD.

    Oh.

    Never mind.^2

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