The Reason For Methadone

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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IIRC, the Pot Belge contains heroin. Now all becomes clear. They should
let Brandt ride.

So you assume the presence of Methadone indicates addiction? Dude, don't
learn about important thing through the grape vine.

They should let hi ride, but I have said all along that the list of drugs is
far too long. Methadone and other pain meds should be allowed with a medical
certificate. The UCI should have a jury or panel of MDs to decide if a
certificate is legit when the application is made. There should also be an
appeals process if they deny the certificate.

One of the reasons that the doping rules are not respected is that they are
far far too stringent. There are a handful of drugs I bought OTC last month
that are all banned not to mention half the drugs I get via prescription.
This is absurd.

"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

IIRC, the Pot Belge contains heroin. Now all becomes clear. They

should

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Quoted message said:

let Brandt ride.

So you assume the presence of Methadone indicates addiction? Dude, don't
learn about important thing through the grape vine.

They should let hi ride, but I have said all along that the list of drugs

is

Quoted message said:

far too long. Methadone and other pain meds should be allowed with a

medical

Quoted message said:

certificate. The UCI should have a jury or panel of MDs to decide if a
certificate is legit when the application is made. There should also be an
appeals process if they deny the certificate.

One of the reasons that the doping rules are not respected is that they

are

Quoted message said:

far far too stringent. There are a handful of drugs I bought OTC last

month

Quoted message said:

that are all banned not to mention half the drugs I get via prescription.
This is absurd.

Dude, don't be humor impaired.

Chris said:

One of the reasons that the doping rules are not respected is that
they are far far too stringent. There are a handful of drugs I bought
OTC last month that are all banned not to mention half the drugs I
get via prescription. This is absurd.

So you will soon be banned I gather.
During the last month, not to mention couple of decades, I haven't bought
any drugs and I haven't had a banned drug prescribed to me since I was in
surgery 30 years ago.

--
Perre

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Chris said:

One of the reasons that the doping rules are not respected is that
they are far far too stringent. There are a handful of drugs I bought
OTC last month that are all banned not to mention half the drugs I
get via prescription. This is absurd.

So you will soon be banned I gather.
During the last month, not to mention couple of decades, I haven't bought
any drugs and I haven't had a banned drug prescribed to me since I was in
surgery 30 years ago.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

Methadone only legal use now to relieve the effects of heroin addiction.
It is not in any other medication.

Sounds like you support doping in bicycling?

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"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

IIRC, the Pot Belge contains heroin. Now all becomes clear. They

should

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

let Brandt ride.

So you assume the presence of Methadone indicates addiction? Dude, don't
learn about important thing through the grape vine.

They should let hi ride, but I have said all along that the list of drugs

is

Quoted message said:

far too long. Methadone and other pain meds should be allowed with a

medical

Quoted message said:

certificate. The UCI should have a jury or panel of MDs to decide if a
certificate is legit when the application is made. There should also be an
appeals process if they deny the certificate.

One of the reasons that the doping rules are not respected is that they

are

Quoted message said:

far far too stringent. There are a handful of drugs I bought OTC last

month

Quoted message said:

that are all banned not to mention half the drugs I get via prescription.
This is absurd.

Happy puppy said:

Methadone only legal use now to relieve the effects of heroin addiction.
It is not in any other medication.

This does not appear to be true. From the PDR:
Indications and usage:
"Methadone Hydrochloride is indicated fot relief of severe pain, for
detoxification treatment of narcotic addiction, and for temporary
maintenance treatment of narcotic addiction."

Steve

Happy puppy said:

Methadone only legal use now to relieve the effects of heroin
addiction. It is not in any other medication.

Sounds like you support doping in bicycling?

It is an ingredient in a couple of medecines, one of them being a cough
medecine.

"Happy puppy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Methadone only legal use now to relieve the effects of heroin addiction.
It is not in any other medication.

Wrong. Methadone is a long acting narcotic that can be given orally with
dependable absorbtion. It is used to substitute for heroin in treatment of
heroin additction but is is alos used in treatment of chronic painful
conditions.

Mike Murray MD

"Happy puppy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Methadone only legal use now to relieve the effects of heroin addiction.
It is not in any other medication.

Wrong. Methadone is a long acting narcotic that can be given orally with
dependable absorbtion. It is used to substitute for heroin in treatment of
heroin additction but is is alos used in treatment of chronic painful
conditions.

Mike Murray MD

Per Elmsäter said:

Chris said:

One of the reasons that the doping rules are not respected is that
they are far far too stringent. There are a handful of drugs I bought
OTC last month that are all banned not to mention half the drugs I
get via prescription. This is absurd.

So you will soon be banned I gather.

Hey, cut him some slack, he probably needs them to cope with half the
posts on rbr.

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During the last month, not to mention couple of decades, I haven't bought
any drugs and I haven't had a banned drug prescribed to me since I was in
surgery 30 years ago.

I avoid taking drugs as much as possible. I was on some [censored] called
Isoniazid (sp?) for 9 months because a TB test gave me a pink spot on my
arm, I kept cycling during the period, but it was super tough. Like
most prescriptions to target some bug it's a toxin, which is primarily
targeted at the bug, but also may harm other parts of the body, like the
liver, which meant taking B6 along with it.

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Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

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"Happy puppy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Methadone only legal use now to relieve the effects of heroin addiction.
It is not in any other medication.

Wrong. Methadone is a long acting narcotic that can be given orally with
dependable absorbtion. It is used to substitute for heroin in treatment

of

Quoted message said:

heroin additction but is is alos used in treatment of chronic painful
conditions.

It is safer than morphine if memory serves and although it is addictive
itself it takes a great deal more of it to produce addiction.

B. Lafferty said:

IIRC, the Pot Belge contains heroin. Now all becomes clear. They should
let Brandt ride.

Substituing methadone as a heroin substitute makes it Pot Belge Lite (TM).

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B. Lafferty said:

IIRC, the Pot Belge contains heroin. Now all becomes clear. They

should

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let Brandt ride.

Substituing methadone as a heroin substitute makes it Pot Belge Lite (TM).

Good retort!!

That is what he said, and it is not used elsewhere.

"Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Happy puppy said:

Methadone only legal use now to relieve the effects of heroin addiction.
It is not in any other medication.

This does not appear to be true. From the PDR:
Indications and usage:
"Methadone Hydrochloride is indicated fot relief of severe pain, for
detoxification treatment of narcotic addiction, and for temporary
maintenance treatment of narcotic addiction."

Steve

It was in cough medecine in before 1970, but taken out, and a less addictive
nartocic is used, codine.

It is used only for Heroin addiction now, because Methadone is so addictive
itself.

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Happy puppy said:

Methadone only legal use now to relieve the effects of heroin
addiction. It is not in any other medication.

Sounds like you support doping in bicycling?

It is an ingredient in a couple of medecines, one of them being a cough
medecine.

Methadone is used only as a "substitute for heroin in treatment of

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heroin addiction but is also used in treatment of chronic painful
conditions."

It is not used in any other meds anymore, too addictive, Gov changed this
long ago.
Even hospitals don't use or carry it, nor pharmacies.

Your boy got it from a addiction clinic somewhere, through someone.

"Mike Murray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Happy puppy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Methadone only legal use now to relieve the effects of heroin addiction.
It is not in any other medication.

Wrong. Methadone is a long acting narcotic that can be given orally with
dependable absorbtion. It is used to substitute for heroin in treatment

of

Quoted message said:

heroin additction but is is alos used in treatment of chronic painful
conditions.

Mike Murray MD

Anitya Arahat said:

That is what he said, and it is not used elsewhere.

No, he said it was only legal to "relieve the effects of heroin addiction."
My point is that it is also used (apparently legally) as an analgesic.

Steve

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Anitya Arahat said:

Methadone is used only as a "substitute for heroin in treatment of

Quoted message said:

heroin addiction but is also used in treatment of chronic painful
conditions."

It is not used in any other meds anymore, too addictive, Gov changed this
long ago.
Even hospitals don't use or carry it, nor pharmacies.

What "gov" is that?
In the U.S., it is a schedule II narcotic, which is legal to prescribe
as an analgesic. Those not legal except in approved investigational
work are schedule I.

Steve

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Your boy got it from a addiction clinic somewhere, through someone.

"Mike Murray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Happy puppy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Methadone only legal use now to relieve the effects of heroin addiction.
It is not in any other medication.

Wrong. Methadone is a long acting narcotic that can be given orally with
dependable absorbtion. It is used to substitute for heroin in treatment

of

Quoted message said:

heroin additction but is is alos used in treatment of chronic painful
conditions.

Mike Murray MD

Anitya Arahat said:

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Happy puppy said:

Methadone only legal use now to relieve the effects of heroin
addiction. It is not in any other medication.

Sounds like you support doping in bicycling?

It is an ingredient in a couple of medecines, one of them being a
cough medecine.

It was in cough medecine in before 1970, but taken out, and a less
addictive nartocic is used, codine.

It is used only for Heroin addiction now, because Methadone is so
addictive itself.

What govt are you talking about? According to the news on French TV last
night, it is used in 3 medicines, one of them being cough syrup. Maybe
they're just repeating his story, but that's why I wrote what I did.