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  1. isn't doping. All professional sports have doping issues.

    The problem is how the UCI handles it. It leads to everyone talking
    about doping instead of racing.

    Read this:

    From:
    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/21/sports/bike.php

    Cycling: What if they held a bike race and nobody came?
    By Samuel Abt

    PUTEAUX, France: Not that anybody noticed, but the 57th Grand Prix of
    Puteaux was run as scheduled.

    That's an exaggeration about nobody noticing: A dozen spectators
    showed up at the town hall for the start of the bicycle race Thursday
    evening in Puteaux, just west of Paris. Perhaps two dozen more
    congregated at the finish line in the Rue Anatole France and along the
    main route on the Rue Jean Jaures.

    In sum, maybe 50 people, mainly elderly, watched.

    Even a few years ago, the race for amateur riders from the Paris
    region attracted a throng of fans. That's over.

    One reason is that there's so much else to do these days besides watch
    a bicycle race. Posters advertised the opening of a two-day food court
    near the town hall, the staging of a "white night" of entertainment on
    an island in the Seine and the closing of riverside quais to traffic
    on Sunday to unleash Rollerbladers.

    There were no posters for the Grand Prix of Puteaux, let alone the
    banner that used to hang over the street near the bridge into town.

    "It's not such a popular sport any more," said Vincent Malbeaux, 18,
    the upper limit for a junior rider. He represented the ACBB team from
    Boulogne Billancourt, long an incubator for professional teams.

    "We still have races but not many people watch," he continued as he
    waited with some 90 other riders for the start.

    The problem? "Doping. All people talk about our sport is doping."

    That will only get worse following the ruling Thursday by arbitrators
    in the United States that Floyd Landis was guilty of doping when he
    finished first in the Tour de France last year. Landis, a 31-year-old
    American, has the right to appeal the 2-1 decision to the Court of
    Arbitration for Sport in Switzerland. Its decision will be final. If
    he loses an appeal or fails to file one in 30 days, Landis will be
    stripped of his title - the first winner of the 104-year-old Tour de
    France to be disqualified for doping.

    <snip><end>

  2. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    isn't doping. All professional sports have doping issues.

    The problem is how the UCI handles it. It leads to everyone talking
    about doping instead of racing.

    snip...

    They hardly even discuss doping in the French forums, it's the least
    favorite topic. They have no obsession with doping scandals like Americans.
    It's an American obsession. Their culture observes cycling first, and doping
    more or less as back page news. These obsessions have made stars out of
    people like [censored] Pound where he can command high pay to speak at speaking
    engagements. That ought not to be, the real stars should be the ones who
    cross the finish line. Doping in cycling should have it's own newsgroup in
    America apart from rbr, there is certainly no lack of users who would post
    to it.

    GBMT

  3. Quoted message said:

    They hardly even discuss doping in the French forums, it's the least
    favorite topic. They have no obsession with doping scandals like
    Americans.
    It's an American obsession. Their culture observes cycling first, and
    doping
    more or less as back page news.

    Ah. I see. The english-language version of L'Equipe must dramatically
    outsell the French version then.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

    "GoneBeforeMyTime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    isn't doping. All professional sports have doping issues.

    The problem is how the UCI handles it. It leads to everyone talking
    about doping instead of racing.

    snip...

    They hardly even discuss doping in the French forums, it's the least
    favorite topic. They have no obsession with doping scandals like
    Americans.
    It's an American obsession. Their culture observes cycling first, and
    doping
    more or less as back page news. These obsessions have made stars out of
    people like [censored] Pound where he can command high pay to speak at speaking
    engagements. That ought not to be, the real stars should be the ones who
    cross the finish line. Doping in cycling should have it's own newsgroup in
    America apart from rbr, there is certainly no lack of users who would post
    to it.

    GBMT

  4. On Sep 21, 5:59 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    They hardly even discuss doping in the French forums, it's the least
    favorite topic. They have no obsession with doping scandals like
    Americans.
    It's an American obsession. Their culture observes cycling first, and
    doping
    more or less as back page news.

    Ah. I see. The english-language version of L'Equipe must dramatically
    outsell the French version then.

    Ehctually.... AFICT, l'Equipe devotes far more attention to football
    and F1 racing than it does to cycling...

  5. "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    They hardly even discuss doping in the French forums, it's the least
    favorite topic. They have no obsession with doping scandals like
    Americans.
    It's an American obsession. Their culture observes cycling first, and
    doping
    more or less as back page news.

    Ah. I see. The english-language version of L'Equipe must dramatically
    outsell the French version then.

    Not the paper, the french forums, but the Italian forums can't get enough of
    doping scandals either like the Americans.

    GBMT

  6. benn.trovato said:

    Ehctually.... AFICT, l'Equipe devotes far more attention to football
    and F1 racing than it does to cycling...

    Do they attempt to expose doping in football ?

    Does anyone spying on Ferrari get a fine ?

  7. Donald Munro said:
    benn.trovato said:

    Ehctually.... AFICT, l'Equipe devotes far more attention to football
    and F1 racing than it does to cycling...

    Do they attempt to expose doping in football ?


    http://www.lequipe.fr/sdx/lqr/search?p=&fr=cb-lequipe&target=on&q=football+dopage&_charset_=UTF-8&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
    227 articles on football doping.

  8. Quoted message said:

    On Sep 21, 5:59 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    They hardly even discuss doping in the French forums, it's the least
    favorite topic. They have no obsession with doping scandals like
    Americans.
    It's an American obsession. Their culture observes cycling first, and
    doping
    more or less as back page news.

    Ah. I see. The english-language version of L'Equipe must dramatically
    outsell the French version then.

    Ehctually.... AFICT, l'Equipe devotes far more attention to football
    and F1 racing than it does to cycling...

    Does cycling make the front page as often as doped cycling? Does metric football
    doping get leaked lab reports?

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