the perfect food

Gabe said:

Well
what I was wondering is -- is there a food out there that comes close
to perfection nutritionally wise, something that you could take out in
the woods and live on for a few months without problems?

Not a food, but hundreds of foods, since diversity is protective
and our proto-human ancestors and early man likely had access
to several hundred different types of wild plant foods, along with
modest quantities of animal foods, mostly invertebrates in the
earlier days. Mostly or all raw. Cooking tends to destroy the
protective phytochemicals of plant foods, and recent studies have
found that while raw vegetables are most protective for certain
types of cancers, cooked vegetables can yield a null effect.

But, if you seek the single cultivated plant food that has the
highest nutrient density (considering only vitamin and mineral
DRIS) the winner is Swiss chard. Not that you should eat it in
abundance, though, because it is also high in oxalic acid, which
will inhibit absorption of some of the minerals.

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Also, are
potatoes good or bad?

Regular potatoes are not as protective as non-starchy vegetables
or even other starchy vegetables such as the sweet potato or
winter squash. Some nutritionists think that regular potatoes
should be excluded from the recommended 5-7 servings of
fruits/vegetables per day.

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I thought they were healthy

You could do far worse. You could also do better.

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but this low carb
thing has really confused me.

It's an oversimplification. You shouldn't limit non-starchy
vegetables, eat as much as you can, different ones, preferrably
raw. For starchy vegetables, which are not as protective as
non-starchy ones but provide a more concentrated source of
calories, try to choose the more colorful ones. Some can be
eaten raw if shredded or grated. All diets, regardless of
macronutrient ratios, appear to be healthiest when the soluble
fiber fraction is high to very high, but this usually also means
a moderate to high total carbohydrate fraction. Depending on
how one defines high.

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I'm pretty much broke all the time and I try to get enough protein and
carbs thru veggies and grains (and meat every once and a while). Well
what I was wondering is -- is there a food out there that comes close
to perfection nutritionally wise, something that you could take out in
the woods and live on for a few months without problems? Also, are
potatoes good or bad? I thought they were healthy but this low carb
thing has really confused me.
Thanks

Gabe Elias

Some chinese believe you can exist solely on a diet of rice and chinese
broccolli.

Flax is not a compete "food" but according to my paper
http://geocities.com/andrewvecsey/omega3.html
it is vital for optimal health.
regards
andrew vecsey
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I'm pretty much broke all the time and I try to get enough protein and
carbs thru veggies and grains (and meat every once and a while). Well
what I was wondering is -- is there a food out there that comes close
to perfection nutritionally wise, something that you could take out in
the woods and live on for a few months without problems? Also, are
potatoes good or bad? I thought they were healthy but this low carb
thing has really confused me.
Thanks

Gabe Elias

Some chinese believe you can exist solely on a diet of rice and chinese
broccolli.

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I'm pretty much broke all the time and I try to get enough protein and
carbs thru veggies and grains (and meat every once and a while). Well
what I was wondering is -- is there a food out there that comes close
to perfection nutritionally wise, something that you could take out in
the woods and live on for a few months without problems? Also, are
potatoes good or bad? I thought they were healthy but this low carb
thing has really confused me.
Thanks

Gabe Elias

Some chinese believe you can exist solely on a diet of rice and chinese
broccolli.

And some due to living on local diet deficient in iodine are not
the bright bulbs in the night of life.

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I would agree that Flax is a perfect food.

I would also add almonds and hot oatmeal to the list.

I grow up on eating whole potatoes. Whole potatoes was the third
vegetable in my house. And, our entire family was skinny.

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I'm pretty much broke all the time and I try to get enough protein and
carbs thru veggies and grains (and meat every once and a while). Well
what I was wondering is -- is there a food out there that comes close
to perfection nutritionally wise, something that you could take out in
the woods and live on for a few months without problems? Also, are
potatoes good or bad? I thought they were healthy but this low carb
thing has really confused me.
Thanks

Gabe Elias

Some chinese believe you can exist solely on a diet of rice and chinese
broccolli.

The Canadian Coureurs de Bois, who opened up the vast Canadian
interior by canoe, ate pemmican and it sustained them for months on
end. It is a mixture of dried pounded buffalo meat and fat (or beef)
with dried pounded berries.

http://collections.ic.gc.ca/notukeu/pemmican_e.htm

TC

According to the glycemic concept, potatoes should be avoided if you
want to lose weight
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I would agree that Flax is a perfect food.

I would also add almonds and hot oatmeal to the list.

I grow up on eating whole potatoes. Whole potatoes was the third
vegetable in my house. And, our entire family was skinny.

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According to the glycemic concept, potatoes should be avoided if you
want to lose weight

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I grow up on eating whole potatoes. Whole potatoes was the third
vegetable in my house. And, our entire family was skinny.

That is why I wrote about growing up on potatoes.

I grew up skinny. And, I'm still skinny.

But, notice how I specified "whole" potatoes?
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Hi Gabe.
For survival I would suggest that meats and fish would give you
everything your body needs to survive. And to reuse the minerals I
would drink my own urine.

But to be health long term, meat is too powerfull for our health. It is
like a fire you need for survival. The best fastest and easiest is
kindling, but on a long term, it is better to use branches.
I wrote a paper listing some of the sources of foods from the USDA 15
foods data base which are the richest sources for each each of the
essential nutrients that our body has to get from food. Most of the
food sources are plants that grow world wide and which have been used
for centuries.

Meats and fish on top of this food pyramid are the most complete
sources as they are the most concentrated. Because of this they contain
too much of the types of fats that are harmfull in too large amounts
because they make us too fat to remain healthy.

Eggs and milk, are one level lower and being produced by meat bearing
animals are very complete and more healthy. Butter and cheese are
concentrates of milk.

Seeds are in the middle of the pyramid and feed the animals that
produce the meats. They produce less of the harmfull fats and more of
the necessary essential ones.

Vegetables and fruit are one level lower and one level healthier.

Herbs and spices (leaves) that produce the vegetables and fruits are on
the bottom of this pyrimid. Different plants offer different nutrients
so it is important to have a wide variety for completeness.

For long term survival and health I would base my nutrition on mainly
plants and their fruits and seeds. I would try to find birds and their
eggs to eat. It would be nice to have a goat, not to eat, but to keep
for milk and cheese. I would learn and occasionally go fishing and
hunting. And I would drink my own urine.
use as wide variety of foods available as possible and would try to
The more varied
You can read this paper at
http://www.geocities.com/andrewvecsey/optimalhealth.html
regards
andrew vecsey

Gabe said:

I'm pretty much broke all the time and I try to get enough protein

and

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carbs thru veggies and grains (and meat every once and a while). Well
what I was wondering is -- is there a food out there that comes close
to perfection nutritionally wise, something that you could take out

in

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the woods and live on for a few months without problems? Also, are
potatoes good or bad? I thought they were healthy but this low carb
thing has really confused me.
Thanks

Gabe Elias