The "myths" in LA's carrer

"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well I've got two:

- "LA never tested positive' - not true, he tested positive in 1999,
but the tour organizers who realized the TdF would probably be dead
one year after the Festina scandal if the yellow jersey recovering
from cancer was caught, were only too happy to buy a backdated
prescirption

- "Ullrich didn't wait for me" - so how come Hamilton was seen waving
his little fists in the air, when he had been previously dropped by
Ullrich and got dropped again immediately aferwards. I think it's safe
to say that tomorrow Ullrich won't be waiting for Armstrong again,
whether he's clumsy and hits a spectator again or not.

who's next?

Does this guy realize what a grouchy old douchebag he's making himself
look like?

"Keith" <@4ax.com...

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Well I've got two:

- "LA never tested positive' - not true, he tested positive in 1999,
but the tour organizers who realized the TdF would probably be dead
one year after the ...

"Keith" -- are you one of those vigilant [censored] that
sees negative in everything?

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 01:52:01 GMT, "Ken Papai" <[email hidden]>

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"Keith" <@4ax.com...

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Well I've got two:

- "LA never tested positive' - not true, he tested positive in 1999,
but the tour organizers who realized the TdF would probably be dead
one year after the ...

"Keith" -- are you one of those vigilant [censored] that
sees negative in everything?

No, I'm just looking at facts, you?

Like the "fact" that he submitted a backdated prescription. You must be
stoned.

"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 01:52:01 GMT, "Ken Papai" <[email hidden]>

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"Keith" <@4ax.com...

Quoted message said:

Well I've got two:

- "LA never tested positive' - not true, he tested positive in 1999,
but the tour organizers who realized the TdF would probably be dead
one year after the ...

"Keith" -- are you one of those vigilant [censored] that
sees negative in everything?

No, I'm just looking at facts, you?

Keith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Well I've got two:

- "LA never tested positive' - not true, he tested positive in 1999,
but the tour organizers who realized the TdF would probably be dead
one year after the Festina scandal if the yellow jersey recovering
from cancer was caught, were only too happy to buy a backdated
prescirption

- "Ullrich didn't wait for me" - so how come Hamilton was seen waving
his little fists in the air, when he had been previously dropped by
Ullrich and got dropped again immediately aferwards. I think it's safe
to say that tomorrow Ullrich won't be waiting for Armstrong again,
whether he's clumsy and hits a spectator again or not.

who's next?

LA never tested positive! There were traces of a corticol steriod in
his blood. They were below the limit, and also backed up by a script
for his doctor for saddle sore cream and by the half used cream tube
in his room. It was a CORTICOL STERIOD not an ANABOLIC, any how
suggests that these two substances could be mistaken for each other as
an idiot (see Ms. O'reilly).

HE never said "Ullrich didn't wait for me". He said " I am not so sure
Ullrich waited". I would also point out that if you can't figure out
the difference between an opinion and a lie you are as big an idiot as
Ms. O'reilly. Whom has read doesn't know the difference between a
anabolic steriod and an corticol steriod, how long corticol steriods
persist in the blood and has read to many mystery novels (why the dark
parking lot, why not just drop them by his house? she was his massage
therabist it's not like they couldn't be seen togehter!).

People annoy the hell out of me. I think Chris Horner is on drugs,
That is why he couldn't cut it in Europe because with tighter drug
controls he could be as doped up, so he back the US where he doesn't
get tested as much. He also clearly was stronger than McCartney, adn
"threw" olympic trial because he knew he would fail the drug test!
there you go! I proved it. You heard it here first RBR poster PROVES
that Horner is on drugs!

You poeple disgust me.

Keith said:

Well I've got two:

- "LA never tested positive' - not true, he tested positive in 1999,
but the tour organizers who realized the TdF would probably be dead
one year after the Festina scandal if the yellow jersey recovering
from cancer was caught, were only too happy to buy a backdated
prescirption

- "Ullrich didn't wait for me" - so how come Hamilton was seen waving
his little fists in the air, when he had been previously dropped by
Ullrich and got dropped again immediately aferwards. I think it's safe
to say that tomorrow Ullrich won't be waiting for Armstrong again,
whether he's clumsy and hits a spectator again or not.

who's next?

What the hell are you talking about?

BTW, you're right - Ullrich didn't wait for Armstrong today. He didn't wait at
all and got his ass dropped immediately. Thanks for not waiting, Jan.

Who's next?

--
Kelly Beard

Keith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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I think it's safe to say that tomorrow Ullrich won't be waiting for
Armstrong again, whether he's clumsy and hits a spectator again or not.

who's next?

Thanks for the prediction. Prepared to explain today's stage? If your
boy doesn't get his legs back overnight and perform better tomorrow,
he'll be riding the rest of the Tour for Kloden.

(Steven) said:

You poeple disgust me.

Yesterday I couldn't even pronounce poeple and now I am one. OK, I'm
still not sure how to pronounce it.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Well I've got two:

- "LA never tested positive' - not true, he tested positive in 1999,
but the tour organizers who realized the TdF would probably be dead
one year after the Festina scandal if the yellow jersey recovering
from cancer was caught, were only too happy to buy a backdated
prescirption

Firstly, that's an outright lie. He tested negative the day before and
positive for minute amounts of a long term steroid which was prescribed by a
doctor and APPROVED by the Tour for saddle sores. So he did not test
positive for an illegal drug but for a legally prescibed medication.

Quoted message said:

- "Ullrich didn't wait for me" - so how come Hamilton was seen waving
his little fists in the air, when he had been previously dropped by
Ullrich and got dropped again immediately aferwards. I think it's safe
to say that tomorrow Ullrich won't be waiting for Armstrong again,
whether he's clumsy and hits a spectator again or not.

I think that Yanny will be having other worries tomorrow. Too bad that
trolls like you get shown up so easily.

Keith said:

- "LA never tested positive' - not true, he tested positive in 1999,
but the tour organizers who realized the TdF would probably be dead
one year after the Festina scandal if the yellow jersey recovering
from cancer was caught, were only too happy to buy a backdated
prescirption

Tested positive for what?

(Steven) said:

There were traces of a corticol steriod in
his blood. They were below the limit, and also backed up by a script
for his doctor for saddle sore cream and by the half used cream tube
in his room.

That answers my question. So it's a non issue to all but those who are
looking for anything with which to criticize Lance.

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Quoted message said:

Well I've got two:

- "LA never tested positive' - not true, he tested positive in 1999,
but the tour organizers who realized the TdF would probably be dead
one year after the Festina scandal if the yellow jersey recovering
from cancer was caught, were only too happy to buy a backdated
prescirption

Firstly, that's an outright lie. He tested negative the day before and
positive for minute amounts of a long term steroid which was prescribed by a
doctor and APPROVED by the Tour for saddle sores. So he did not test
positive for an illegal drug but for a legally prescibed medication.

When you're positive with "corticoides" it doen's say "saddle sores"
If it hadn't been for that backdated prescription he would have been
kicked out, now we know the whole story thanks to Emma. I guess you're
beyond lying at this point.

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Quoted message said:

- "Ullrich didn't wait for me" - so how come Hamilton was seen waving
his little fists in the air, when he had been previously dropped by
Ullrich and got dropped again immediately aferwards. I think it's safe
to say that tomorrow Ullrich won't be waiting for Armstrong again,
whether he's clumsy and hits a spectator again or not.

I think that Yanny will be having other worries tomorrow. Too bad that
trolls like you get shown up so easily.

Off topc, stick to the facts please.

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 02:35:32 GMT, Jack Hollis <[email hidden]>

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(Steven) said:

There were traces of a corticol steriod in
his blood. They were below the limit, and also backed up by a script
for his doctor for saddle sore cream and by the half used cream tube
in his room.

That answers my question. So it's a non issue to all but those who are
looking for anything with which to criticize Lance.

Not at all, that's the excuse they come up with at the time as well as
with a backdated prescription. Now we know from Emma that he had been
taking stuff on the Route du Sud and thought it would be gone by the
TdF, it wasn't.

"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Firstly, that's an outright lie. He tested negative the day before and
positive for minute amounts of a long term steroid which was prescribed

by a

Quoted message said:

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doctor and APPROVED by the Tour for saddle sores. So he did not test
positive for an illegal drug but for a legally prescibed medication.

When you're positive with "corticoides" it doen's say "saddle sores"
If it hadn't been for that backdated prescription he would have been
kicked out, now we know the whole story thanks to Emma. I guess you're
beyond lying at this point.

Don't give me that "backdated" [censored] because UCI and ASO clearly stated that
they had given their permission BEFORE he used it.

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I think that Yanny will be having other worries tomorrow. Too bad that
trolls like you get shown up so easily.

Off topc, stick to the facts please.

Yanny had more to worry about today than the stupid worries of people like
you.

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Don't give me that "backdated" [censored] because UCI and ASO clearly stated that
they had given their permission BEFORE he used it.

Where did they "clearly state" this? And how could they (why is the
UCI even involved ?!) have given their permission since there was no
official prescription for that "saddle sore"?

"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Don't give me that "backdated" [censored] because UCI and ASO clearly stated

that

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they had given their permission BEFORE he used it.

Where did they "clearly state" this? And how could they (why is the
UCI even involved ?!) have given their permission since there was no
official prescription for that "saddle sore"?

Because BEFORE the Tour the team doctors give the Tour a list of the
medicines that any of the riders use on a regular basis. In case you're
unaware of it saddle sores are a part of professional cycling and so the
steroid compound is a normal part of the medicine cabinet.

As for the UCI, (why do I get the idea that you are entirely clueless?) in
case you were unaware, they have to agree that any specific dope test is
positive. So THEY get a list of the medicines as well. Big SURPRISE!

Tom Kunich said:

"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

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Don't give me that "backdated" [censored] because UCI and ASO clearly stated

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

they had given their permission BEFORE he used it.

Where did they "clearly state" this? And how could they (why is the
UCI even involved ?!) have given their permission since there was no
official prescription for that "saddle sore"?

Because BEFORE the Tour the team doctors give the Tour a list of the
medicines that any of the riders use on a regular basis. In case you're
unaware of it saddle sores are a part of professional cycling and so the
steroid compound is a normal part of the medicine cabinet.

As for the UCI, (why do I get the idea that you are entirely clueless?) in
case you were unaware, they have to agree that any specific dope test is
positive. So THEY get a list of the medicines as well. Big SURPRISE!

Remember Beloki? His french team wouldn't let him race because his
asthma med was on the banned list in France, even though the UCI was
cool with him using it?