The latest absurd claim against LA.

there are only so many times lance can use the embittred former employee card.

it shows the pathetic lance fans with their clouded judgment

Emma O'Reilly,Stefan Swartz,Stefan Prentice,Greg Lemond,Mike Anderson etc...

all bitter? hahaha🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

So we have a guy that constantly tries to limit his upper body weight to enable better climbing performance taking a drug that will increase his upper body muscle mass? Phooey. If Armstrong is doping it is blood doping and HGH. I agree that this Anderson guy is lying. The others? Who knows?

mjolnir2k said:

So once again we have to listen to a embittered former "friend" of LA claim to have knowledge that LA was doping.

Most of these are downright absurd, but this one is just comical.

Here's the skinny, Mike Anderson, who is involved in a legal fight with Armstrong over alleged promises the cyclist made to help Anderson start a bike shop, made the claim about a banned substance in a brief filed in state district court.

Here's the "evidence":
Anderson, who says he had a key to Armstrong's apartment in Girona, Spain, alleges he was cleaning the bathroom in ``early 2004'' when he found a white box labeled ``like any other prescription drug'' but that did not have a doctor's prescription attached. Written on the box was the trademark name ``Androstenine, or something very close to this,'' Anderson said.

``He went to the computer, looked it up on the WADA or USADA Web site(s), and confirmed that what he had found was an androgen, a listed banned substance,'' Anderson's court brief states, referring to the World Anti-Doping Agency and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

So, let me get this straight. He's a supposed friend of LA, yet he just happened to be sneaking around LA's house and magically came upon a bottle of "Androstenine, or something very close to this". At which point he immediately goes and looks it up on the computer. Wow, sounds convincing...

but wait it gets better...

Anderson said he was fired in November 2004 after asking for, and getting, a $500-a-month raise. He said Armstrong's representatives offered him a severance package totaling $7,000.

Armstrong and his personal service company, Luke David LLC, sued Anderson about a month later, claiming Anderson demanded Armstrong pay him $500,000, give him a signed Tour de France jersey and future endorsements to help him set up his own bike shop.

So, this guy is fired and is [censored] that LA won't give him $500,000 and endorse his bike shop...jeez, what's a guy to do..

wait I know...cry DOPER!

Once again yet another SAD extortion attempt from someone who coudn't earn an honest buck, so he tries to do what other slime like him try to do...threaten, sue and attempt to smear the charecter of the person they have a vendetta against.

This is so transparent it's almost insulting. Fortunately anyone who has a brain in their head can see right through this garbage.

These claims will always continue as long as there are slimeballs looking to cash in on someone else's good fortune. How pathetic.

Look at the source and recognize the motives..adds up to yet another false claim.

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You haven;t listed a link for this story : so I don't have the details or knowledge to assess the veracity of the case that you allege above.

But I do take issue with this :

"Once again yet another SAD extortion attempt from someone who coudn't earn an honest buck,"

Can you tell us who else has tried to extort money from LA ?

If I recall extortion is a criminal act and is subject to the criminal law : if other
extortion attempts have been made against LA, why hasn't he informed the police ?

Can i ask a simple question?

Why did lance sue the SCA(Witheld his bonus) when all they asked from him was his full medical history?

what has he got to hide

alot imo

babylou said:

So we have a guy that constantly tries to limit his upper body weight to enable better climbing performance taking a drug that will increase his upper body muscle mass? Phooey. If Armstrong is doping it is blood doping and HGH. I agree that this Anderson guy is lying. The others? Who knows?

idiotic reply,steroids are used in cycling not for building muscle but to aid recovery

where you are from says everything

mjolnir2k said:

So once again we have to listen to a embittered former "friend" of LA claim to have knowledge that LA was doping.

Most of these are downright absurd, but this one is just comical.

Here's the skinny, Mike Anderson, who is involved in a legal fight with Armstrong over alleged promises the cyclist made to help Anderson start a bike shop, made the claim about a banned substance in a brief filed in state district court.

Here's the "evidence":
Anderson, who says he had a key to Armstrong's apartment in Girona, Spain, alleges he was cleaning the bathroom in ``early 2004'' when he found a white box labeled ``like any other prescription drug'' but that did not have a doctor's prescription attached. Written on the box was the trademark name ``Androstenine, or something very close to this,'' Anderson said.

``He went to the computer, looked it up on the WADA or USADA Web site(s), and confirmed that what he had found was an androgen, a listed banned substance,'' Anderson's court brief states, referring to the World Anti-Doping Agency and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

So, let me get this straight. He's a supposed friend of LA, yet he just happened to be sneaking around LA's house and magically came upon a bottle of "Androstenine, or something very close to this". At which point he immediately goes and looks it up on the computer. Wow, sounds convincing...

but wait it gets better...

Anderson said he was fired in November 2004 after asking for, and getting, a $500-a-month raise. He said Armstrong's representatives offered him a severance package totaling $7,000.

Armstrong and his personal service company, Luke David LLC, sued Anderson about a month later, claiming Anderson demanded Armstrong pay him $500,000, give him a signed Tour de France jersey and future endorsements to help him set up his own bike shop.

So, this guy is fired and is [censored] that LA won't give him $500,000 and endorse his bike shop...jeez, what's a guy to do..

wait I know...cry DOPER!

Once again yet another SAD extortion attempt from someone who coudn't earn an honest buck, so he tries to do what other slime like him try to do...threaten, sue and attempt to smear the charecter of the person they have a vendetta against.

This is so transparent it's almost insulting. Fortunately anyone who has a brain in their head can see right through this garbage.

These claims will always continue as long as there are slimeballs looking to cash in on someone else's good fortune. How pathetic.

Look at the source and recognize the motives..adds up to yet another false claim.

.

you clearly have no clue of this case and are just another la fan with his head in the sand

Mike anderson and his wife allison worked for armstrong as helpers
mike helping with the bikes,oddjobs and allison cleaning his house

they didn't just stumble upon this stuff

he was cleaning the bathroom at the time he found it

the guy wants the 500.000 cos lance reneged on their contact which included helping anderson set up his own bike shop at a cost of 500,000

Patrick1983 said:

you clearly have no clue of this case and are just another la fan with his head in the sand

Mike anderson and his wife allison worked for armstrong as helpers
mike helping with the bikes,oddjobs and allison cleaning his house

they didn't just stumble upon this stuff

he was cleaning the bathroom at the time he found it

the guy wants the 500.000 cos lance reneged on their contact which included helping anderson set up his own bike shop at a cost of 500,000

This is really substantial charges 6 mos and nothing.....hmmmm sounds like a much ado about nothing.

Doug

Or yet more confirmation that someone is on illegal drugs that help him so much---that he rides as if he is on a motorcycle while the others are beginners on tricycles. (The fraud is most apparent)

It ain't about a work ethic.

Fraud, lying, science, drug trafficing, reseach, Ferrari and lots of toxic doping.

And besides, if mojonir13 does not believes it--you know it must be true. A zealous truth!!!

djrocker257 said:

This is really substantial charges 6 mos and nothing.....hmmmm sounds like a much ado about nothing.

Doug

And doping claims are coming in from Dr. Gerard Guillaume of Francaise des Jeux---home to AIS alums Brad McGee and Baden Cooke. The good doctor claims that there are currently two TDF being run. His boys are not on whatever the top team is. (Discovery?)

He had no proof other than common sense and the fact that the speeds are punishing.

Even admitted anemia doper Didier Rous (1998 Festina doper) and in this years race says that a time comes when I rider says: "Right, that's enough."

Wow, even the cheaters are calling attention to the better cheaters!!!!

They ought to know. Now you do too!

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Patrick1983 said:

you clearly have no clue of this case and are just another la fan with his head in the sand

Mike anderson and his wife allison worked for armstrong as helpers
mike helping with the bikes,oddjobs and allison cleaning his house

they didn't just stumble upon this stuff

he was cleaning the bathroom at the time he found it

the guy wants the 500.000 cos lance reneged on their contact which included helping anderson set up his own bike shop at a cost of 500,000

Obviously you haven't done any research on this case or you would have seen the email that Anderson took as a contract, which was nothing even close. But don't let facts stand in your way.

So the fact that LA was tested not once, but twice, (and found to be perfectly legally) in the opening days of the tour is of no consequence?...

The facts never influenced you--burning house.

Emma O'Reilly had no such memo of understanding, nor he she in an employment dispute or a lost business deal for Trek Bicycles.

Still she is being sued by Lance & Luke David, LLC for much the same reasons----talking too much!

You do not allow doping to cloud your judgment, eh?

Even the racers & doctor think Lance is on drugs.

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House said:

Obviously you haven't done any research on this case or you would have seen the email that Anderson took as a contract, which was nothing even close. But don't let facts stand in your way.

None--except to fuel the naive PR cloned customers for Nike, Comcast & Subaru.

Test him 60 minutes prio to a critical time trial. Check for vasodilators, stimulants and corticosteroids. And next time---have aWADA observer present!!!!

That's a positive result.

stormer94 said:

So the fact that LA was tested not once, but twice, (and found to be perfectly legally) in the opening days of the tour is of no consequence?...

Flyer said:

The facts never influenced you--burning house.

Emma O'Reilly had no such memo of understanding, nor he she in an employment dispute or a lost business deal for Trek Bicycles.

Still she is being sued by Lance & Luke David, LLC for much the same reasons----talking too much!

You do not allow doping to cloud your judgment, eh?

Even the racers & doctor think Lance is on drugs.

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Defending another poster or just another name you post under? Only you can go from specifics of one case and try to equate it to another. Of course you then have to throw in a case that contradicts everything you have been saying about Aussies.

One question:

Why are you still avoiding accepting the challenges I have laid at your feet?????

Other dopers:

Paula Pezzo, Filip Meirhaeghe, Tammy Thomas, Dave Brulandts, Christophe Brandt, Janet Puiggros Miranda, Jerome Chiotti.

Dario Frigo NEVER failed a drug test!!!! he was busted twice from Police searches of his hotel room (2001 Giro) or car (2005 TDF).

Dopers fear police and housekeepers, not testers!

House said:

Defending another poster or just another name you post under? Only you can go from specifics of one case and try to equate it to another. Of course you then have to throw in a case that contradicts everything you have been saying about Aussies.

One question:

Why are you still avoiding accepting the challenges I have laid at your feet?????

Flyer said:

None--except to fuel the naive PR cloned customers for Nike, Comcast & Subaru.

Test him 60 minutes prio to a critical time trial. Check for vasodilators, stimulants and corticosteroids. And next time---have aWADA observer present!!!!

That's a positive result.

So, LA has won no stages this year, trains and peaks ONLY for the TOUR, other riders can hang with him or give him a run, Basso, Ulrich, Rassmussen, (insert your favorite name here),

Innocent until proven guilty, evidently does not apply to cycling.

I suppose Georg Totschnig must be the king of all dopers, he came from NOWHERE to win stage 14...

Here we are people on a random forum, yet we know way more than the people that test these people for drugs every day.

Genetics, great suffering, great willpower, NAH, Dopers the whole lot... 🙄

The 'least qualified person re doping' is a low paid tester.

They have NO TESTS for most drugs. Why are they even present except for public relations?

Growth Hormones, insulin, interlukins, most EPO, blood transfusions, testosterone, all reseacrh drugs, all designer drugs

No tests, no positives---ever!

Why do you depend on the blind for compliance?

This forum has pointed out that hosekeepers and police are the only true drug finders.

stormer94 said:

So, LA has won no stages this year, trains and peaks ONLY for the TOUR, other riders can hang with him or give him a run, Basso, Ulrich, Rassmussen, (insert your favorite name here),

Innocent until proven guilty, evidently does not apply to cycling.

I suppose Georg Totschnig must be the king of all dopers, he came from NOWHERE to win stage 14...

Here we are people on a random forum, yet we know way more than the people that test these people for drugs every day.

Genetics, great suffering, great willpower, NAH, Dopers the whole lot... 🙄

Flyer said:

The 'least qualified person re doping' is a low paid tester.

They have NO TESTS for most drugs. Why are they even present except for public relations?

Growth Hormones, insulin, interlukins, most EPO, blood transfusions, testosterone, all reseacrh drugs, all designer drugs

No tests, no positives---ever!

Why do you depend on the blind for compliance?

This forum has pointed out that hosekeepers and police are the only true drug finders.

Have there been riders tossed for drugs and doping this year? Yes. Seems to me that they are more than PR at that point.

If you feel they are doing a lousy job, go to whatever college offers a course in catching Tour "dopers" and offer up your services to the TDF next year.

The creme always rises to the top. The creme that doesn't make it never blames themselves.

This years tour, any suprises? Not really, except Rasmussen, obviously a doper...
🙄

Oh, and I mentioned it before, Georg Totschnig, obviously a doper, should not have won a stage... 🙄

Also,

This is my last post in the thread, I almost let myself get caught up in somebody else's delusion. 😉