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  1. I'm an Older Person, at least as defined by the European Onion. As
    such, I tend to measure distances in miles, cos I always have done.
    Looking through some of the recent threads in this newsgroup I find
    mainly references to kilometres (assuming things like 10k don't refer
    to ten thousand miles). It's of no real matter to me as I don't race
    or time myself against other cyclists, but I do take some note of the
    distances I ride and the average speed and so on and am wondering if
    I'm even further behind the times than usual by sticking to miles,
    mph, etc.? Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in
    cycling in Britain?

    Beegee

  2. "beegee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm an Older Person, at least as defined by the European Onion. As
    such, I tend to measure distances in miles, cos I always have done.
    Looking through some of the recent threads in this newsgroup I find
    mainly references to kilometres (assuming things like 10k don't refer
    to ten thousand miles). It's of no real matter to me as I don't race
    or time myself against other cyclists, but I do take some note of the
    distances I ride and the average speed and so on and am wondering if
    I'm even further behind the times than usual by sticking to miles,
    mph, etc.? Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in
    cycling in Britain?

    Beegee

    Not sure if I'm an older person or not as at 40yrs I've never ever been
    taught at school in imperial units but still cycle in miles. Can't use
    inches, feet or yards, farenheight, Lbs and oz at all though!

    Wish I could use km as it just sounds so much more impressive which is why I
    think some people use it :-)

    However used to have my trailquest speedo in Km as it ties in with the map
    grid squares.

    Russ

  3. beegee said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in cycling in


    Britain?

    NEVER!!!

    There'll always be an England,
    While there's a country lane.
    Wherever there's a cottage small
    Beside a field of grain
    There'll always be an England
    While there's a busy street.
    Wherever there's a turning wheel
    A million marching feet.

    ....

    --
    Kev

  4. In news:[email hidden],

    Russ said:

    "beegee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm an Older Person, at least as defined by the European Onion. As
    such, I tend to measure distances in miles, cos I always have done.
    Looking through some of the recent threads in this newsgroup I find
    mainly references to kilometres (assuming things like 10k don't refer
    to ten thousand miles). It's of no real matter to me as I don't race
    or time myself against other cyclists, but I do take some note of the
    distances I ride and the average speed and so on and am wondering if
    I'm even further behind the times than usual by sticking to miles,
    mph, etc.? Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement
    in cycling in Britain?

    Beegee

    Not sure if I'm an older person or not as at 40yrs I've never ever
    been taught at school in imperial units but still cycle in miles.
    Can't use inches, feet or yards, farenheight, Lbs and oz at all
    though!

    Russ

    Inches are good for tyres, feet are good for pedalling, yards are good for
    netties, fahrenheit is good for when it's warm, but celcius is better for
    when it's cold, for example, if it's over 10C, I wear shorts. If it's over
    65F, I'm too hot. Lbs are what I need to lose so the bathroom scales don't
    groan, oz is all I manage to lose, and that's just by utilising some of the
    other bathroom furniture. I'll be 50 years old next year.
    What's that in metric?
    --
    Morton Burner

  5. On 22/8/04 11:23 pm, in article
    [email hidden], "beegee"

    Quoted message said:

    Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in
    cycling in Britain?

    I use metric because the numbers sound more impressive. 60 sounds much
    faster than 37 and a bit.

    My aim for next year is to get my 10 mile average speed in Km/h above my
    age. (I'm 35).

    ...d

  6. Kevin Stone said:
    beegee said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in cycling
    in Britain?

    NEVER!!!

    There'll always be an England,
    While there's a country lane.
    Wherever there's a cottage small
    Beside a field of grain
    There'll always be an England
    While there's a busy street.
    Wherever there's a turning wheel
    A million marching feet.

    ...

    Shouldn't that be

    'A Million marching 30cm'

    :-p

    Pete.

  7. beegee pibbled:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm an Older Person, at least as defined by the European Onion. As
    such, I tend to measure distances in miles, cos I always have done.
    Looking through some of the recent threads in this newsgroup I find
    mainly references to kilometres (assuming things like 10k don't refer
    to ten thousand miles). It's of no real matter to me as I don't race
    or time myself against other cyclists, but I do take some note of the
    distances I ride and the average speed and so on and am wondering if
    I'm even further behind the times than usual by sticking to miles,
    mph, etc.? Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in
    cycling in Britain?

    Good point. Although I think in centigrade, a kilometer isn't far enough to
    make sense. Feet work well in height, but mm is good for small things (less
    than a foot!). In engineering, the 'thou' is perfect, a micron is rubbish,
    it's way too small. Meters are good where the number of feet gets too
    large. Whoever thought that 19/32 was a sensible size for a spanner was on
    something which would now be highly illegal. HTH.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, beegee
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    I'm an Older Person, at least as defined by the European Onion. As
    such, I tend to measure distances in miles, cos I always have done.
    Looking through some of the recent threads in this newsgroup I find
    mainly references to kilometres (assuming things like 10k don't refer
    to ten thousand miles). It's of no real matter to me as I don't race
    or time myself against other cyclists, but I do take some note of the
    distances I ride and the average speed and so on and am wondering if
    I'm even further behind the times than usual by sticking to miles,
    mph, etc.? Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in
    cycling in Britain?


    I'm an Older Person too, and I measure in miles, yards, feet, inches,
    rods, poles, perches. (Who else remembers the old school exercise
    books...).
    A quaint thing I notice cycling in Windsor Great Park is that the posted
    speed limit is 38 mph, a strange number to choose, except that it's
    60kph. Maybe a certain other Older Person is preparing for a metric
    revolution.
    --
    Peter Grange

  9. On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:31:10 +0100, "Russ" <[email hidden]>
    wrote (more or less):

    Quoted message said:


    "beegee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm an Older Person, at least as defined by the European Onion. As
    such, I tend to measure distances in miles, cos I always have done.
    Looking through some of the recent threads in this newsgroup I find
    mainly references to kilometres (assuming things like 10k don't refer
    to ten thousand miles). It's of no real matter to me as I don't race
    or time myself against other cyclists, but I do take some note of the
    distances I ride and the average speed and so on and am wondering if
    I'm even further behind the times than usual by sticking to miles,
    mph, etc.? Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in
    cycling in Britain?

    Beegee

    Not sure if I'm an older person or not as at 40yrs I've never ever been
    taught at school in imperial units but still cycle in miles. Can't use
    inches, feet or yards, farenheight, Lbs and oz at all though!

    Wish I could use km as it just sounds so much more impressive which is why I
    think some people use it :-)

    I'm teh same age, and learnt cm and m at school. but longer distances
    have always been labelled miles.

    There are 3.25 feet in a metre, and 1760 yards in a mile.

    So there are 1624metres in a mile. (I use 1600m for ease of
    conversion)

    So a km is 5/8ths of a mile. And a mile is 8/5ths of a km.

    I use my cycle computer in km, becasue that makes my slow speeds and
    short distances seem less unimpressive. :-)

    Quoted message said:

    However used to have my trailquest speedo in Km as it ties in with the map
    grid squares.

    --
    Cheers,
    Euan
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  10. David Martin pibbled:

    Quoted message said:

    On 22/8/04 11:23 pm, in article
    [email hidden], "beegee"

    Quoted message said:

    Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in
    cycling in Britain?

    I use metric because the numbers sound more impressive. 60 sounds much
    faster than 37 and a bit.

    My aim for next year is to get my 10 mile average speed in Km/h above my
    age. (I'm 35).

    My aim is to get my weight below my IQ....

  11. "gopher bronze" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    beegee pibbled:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm an Older Person, at least as defined by the European Onion. As
    such, I tend to measure distances in miles, cos I always have done.
    Looking through some of the recent threads in this newsgroup I find
    mainly references to kilometres (assuming things like 10k don't refer
    to ten thousand miles). It's of no real matter to me as I don't race
    or time myself against other cyclists, but I do take some note of the
    distances I ride and the average speed and so on and am wondering if
    I'm even further behind the times than usual by sticking to miles,
    mph, etc.? Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in
    cycling in Britain?

    Good point. Although I think in centigrade, a kilometer isn't far enough


    to

    Quoted message said:

    make sense. Feet work well in height, but mm is good for small things


    (less

    Quoted message said:

    than a foot!). In engineering, the 'thou' is perfect, a micron is rubbish,
    it's way too small. Meters are good where the number of feet gets too
    large. Whoever thought that 19/32 was a sensible size for a spanner was


    on

    Quoted message said:

    something which would now be highly illegal. HTH.

    I get annoyed by my speedo, which has either km distance/m altitude or miles
    distance/ft altitude. I want miles distance/metres altitude.

    cheers,
    clive

  12. [email hidden] (beegee) wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    mph, etc.? Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in
    cycling in Britain?

    Beegee

    No. Audaxes are a French thing so they use metric. Time trials still
    use miles. While road signs are in miles and speed limits are in mph
    (important to me when I am driving) I will use miles when cycling. I
    was born in the mid sixties and was never taught about imperial
    measuring systems but in the real world it is far easier to use them.

  13. [email hidden] (beegee) wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    mph, etc.? Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in
    cycling in Britain?

    Beegee

    No. Audaxes are a French thing so they use metric. Time trials still
    use miles. While road signs are in miles and speed limits are in mph
    (important to me when I am driving) I will use miles when cycling. I
    was born in the mid sixties and was never taught about imperial
    measuring systems but in the real world it is far easier to use them.

  14. gopher bronze vaguely muttered something like ...

    Quoted message said:

    Whoever thought that 19/32 was a sensible size for a
    spanner was on something which would now be highly illegal. HTH.

    Heheheh, amen to that .. 😉

    --
    Paul ...

    (8(|) ... Homer Rocks

    "A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."

  15. beegee said:

    I'm an Older Person, at least as defined by the European Onion. As
    such, I tend to measure distances in miles, cos I always have done.

    I'm not an Older Person (born in the 1970s) but I use miles for
    measuring longer distances. When doing AUK rides, which are measured in
    km, it's not difficult to do a rough mental conversion.

    Quoted message said:

    Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in
    cycling in Britain?

    Metric is the international standard and is therefore used in any
    sporting event that takes place on an international level - the marathon
    is the only exception to that rule that I can think of.

    d.

  16. Russ popped their head over the parapet saw what was going on and said

    Quoted message said:


    Not sure if I'm an older person or not as at 40yrs I've never ever
    been taught at school in imperial units but still cycle in miles.
    Can't use inches, feet or yards, farenheight, Lbs and oz at all
    though!

    Am 41, nearly 42, was born in 1962 can't remember actually
    being taught measuring systems but we certainly used both
    imperial and metric, metric with everything divisible by ten
    was much easier for "Engineering science".

    Still use miles, mph when talking big distances, feet when
    talking about people and cm mm when talking about small
    sizes, still think it's wierd when my son talks about being
    1 metre 28 centimetres tall or one twenty eight metres

    --
    yours S

    Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione

  17. David Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I use metric because the numbers sound more impressive. 60 sounds much
    faster than 37 and a bit.

    I hadn't thought of that approach. Does this mean that if I tell the
    polis that the kids with the dustbin sized exhausts on their Ford
    Fiestas are roaring up my street at nearly 100 they'll take more
    notice?

    BG

  18. davek said:


    Metric is the international standard and is therefore used in any
    sporting event that takes place on an international level - the marathon
    is the only exception to that rule that I can think of.

    d.

    The marathon is metric too. The official distance is 42.195km. No mention
    of imperial units. If you watched yesterday's marathon you will have seen
    that all the distance markers were in km.
    --
    Michael MacClancy
    Random putdown - "His mother should have thrown him away and kept the
    stork." - Mae West
    www.macclancy.demon.co.uk
    www.macclancy.co.uk

  19. Kevin Stone <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : "beegee" wrote:

    :>> Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in cycling in
    : Britain?

    : NEVER!!!

    : There'll always be an England,

    Sigh. This is why I sometimes use metric units just to wind people up.
    I find the whole "little england" attitude annoying, sad and Daily Mail
    reading.

    My apologies if I missed the humour in your post.

    Arthur (I use: my weight in Kilos, my height in feet + inches, distance
    travelled in miles, speed in miles/hour, small distances in metres +
    centimeters. Weight in grams/kilos/tonnes. All cooking in grams and litres.
    I just can't cook in imperial for some reason 🙂

    --
    Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org
    "Technolibertarians make a philosophy out of a personality defect"
    - Paulina Borsook

  20. "Kevin Stone" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    beegee said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is there now a general acceptance of metric measurement in cycling in


    Britain?

    NEVER!!!

    Oh dear. Its a unit of measurement, not some shibboleth of nationhood.

    Personally, I'm of an age where both systems can be used interchangeably. I
    drink beer in pints, milk and OJ in litres, drive my car in miles but ride
    my bike in km and will accept payment for my work in any convertible
    currency.

    One inch is, by internationally agreed definition, 25.4 mm -- not the length
    of Edward the Confessor's pinkie. Indeed, all Imperial measures are now
    defined as subsidiary measured derived from SI units.

    T

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