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  1. Now a strong accusation :

    'I can prove to you, and will demonstrate to you, that the people at the laboratory are not objective about this. I have evidence to indicate they have the names of the riders connected to the numbers. "

    If Landis can show the evidence, he did a point

    http://sport.monstersandcritics.com/othersport/article_1188322.php/Landis_tells_BBC_his_doping_test_was_flawed

  2. why the hell didn't he have a lab elsewhere do a test on the b sample
    to confirm the results ? it's his right isn't it ?

  3. Quoted message said:

    why the hell didn't he have a lab elsewhere do a test on the b sample
    to confirm the results ? it's his right isn't it ?

    no

  4. Quoted message said:

    why the hell didn't he have a lab elsewhere do a test on the b sample
    to confirm the results ? it's his right isn't it ?


    it may be is right (I dunno), BUT if you were him AND you were guilty
    and knew it, THEN perhaps it would be in your best interest to have the
    same lab test the samples. Even if you were innocent, discrediting the
    lab is a viable alternative.

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    why the hell didn't he have a lab elsewhere do a test on the b sample
    to confirm the results ? it's his right isn't it ?

    No, that is not his right. The rules allowed him the opportunity to
    observe all aspects of the b-sample test, and to have his own experts
    on-hand to observe and take notes. Oddly, he sent lawyers, not
    scientists to be his observers. Why?

    This behavior alone indicates to me that his defense will be based on
    technicalities and not scientific critique of the process. He had time
    to discuss strategy with his lawyers (who are already experienced in
    anti-doping cases). This speaks volumes to me. It says that he did
    not expect to be able to find anything wrong with the testing method,
    so he's likely going to stick with the "produced by my own organism"
    defense. He'd best spend his time doing his homework on carbon
    isotopes (as opposed to going on Jay Leno).

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    Quoted message said:

    why the hell didn't he have a lab elsewhere do a test on the b sample
    to confirm the results ? it's his right isn't it ?

    No, that is not his right. The rules allowed him the opportunity to
    observe all aspects of the b-sample test, and to have his own experts
    on-hand to observe and take notes. Oddly, he sent lawyers, not
    scientists to be his observers. Why?

    This behavior alone indicates to me that his defense will be based on
    technicalities and not scientific critique of the process. He had time
    to discuss strategy with his lawyers (who are already experienced in
    anti-doping cases). This speaks volumes to me. It says that he did
    not expect to be able to find anything wrong with the testing method,
    so he's likely going to stick with the "produced by my own organism"
    defense. He'd best spend his time doing his homework on carbon
    isotopes (as opposed to going on Jay Leno).


    Landis' behavior means he knows that when a lab corrupts a sample, the test
    results are also corrupted.
    There's no sense in lending credibility to the test results by "observing"
    the test.

  7. I wonder if the L'Equipe leak goes both ways...?

  8. Stu Fleming said:

    I wonder if the L'Equipe leak goes both ways...?

    A leak that goes both ways ? L'Equipe must be bisexual.

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