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  1. Haven't heard from our mate Tim Bolen for a while, so an
    update on the Kadile case that refers to the true facts,
    now that it is concluded and participants can sp[eak
    more freely.

    Neither the NACHF, nor Dr Barrett nor any healthfraud agency
    was responsible for bringing the case against him. The FDA
    and some insurance agencies brought the local medical
    board's attention to the fate of certain of Kadile's
    patients who had undergone chelation.

    Court documents show that of five patients who underwent
    chelation two subsequently had heart attacks, one of whom
    died, and another had a stroke. This is what initially
    brought him to the attention of these parties. These facts
    were never disputed in court. Neither was the fact that he
    was advertising the treatment with many false claims.

    His case was lost. He is to undergo assessment of his
    competency to practice and retraining if necessary. He is to
    pay costs.

    An interesting outcome is that Kadile can still do chelation
    therapy as an off-label usage of chelation agents that
    happen to be approved by the FDA for other purposes. So much
    for the supposed suppression of the method.

    If you are a true-blue alternative believer you can thus
    still go and see Dr Kadile for your chelation. You will
    merely have to sign a consent form stating that you have
    been given certain advice regarding it (that you are quite
    free to disbelieve). So much for the supposed suppression of
    this common quack practice.

    Peter Moran

    No pateint had documented benefits

    What happened was that a complaint was made

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: The Kadile case and chelation From: "Peter Moran"
    [email hidden] Date: 3/20/2004 7:52 PM Pacific Standard
    Time Message-id: <405d1179$0$303$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-
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    Haven't heard from our mate Tim Bolen for a while, so an
    update on the Kadile case that refers to the true facts,
    now that it is concluded and participants can sp[eak
    more freely.

    Neither the NACHF, nor Dr Barrett nor any healthfraud
    agency was responsible for bringing the case against him.

    LOL,,,,,,,,,,,,says who???

    Quoted message said:

    The FDA and some insurance agencies brought the local
    medical board's attention to the fate of certain of
    Kadile's patients who had undergone chelation.

    Who cooked up the deal with the FDA and insurance
    companies???

    Quoted message said:

    Court documents show that of five patients who underwent
    chelation two subsequently had heart attacks, one of whom
    died, and another had a stroke. This is what initially
    brought him to the attention of these parties.


    These facts were never disputed in court. Neither was the
    fact that he

    Quoted message said:

    was advertising the treatment with many false claims.

    What fact??? Where??

    Quoted message said:

    His case was lost.

    Oh??

    Says who??

    Quoted message said:

    He is to undergo assessment of his competency to practice
    and retraining if necessary. He is to pay costs.

    Quoted message said:

    An interesting outcome is that Kadile can still do
    chelation therapy as an off-label usage of chelation agents
    that happen to be approved by the FDA for other purposes.

    Great!

    Quoted message said:

    So much for the supposed suppression of the method.

    Oh, it is not supposed, not by a long shot. The fact is, it
    works and people want it.

    Quoted message said:

    If you are a true-blue alternative believer you can thus
    still go and see Dr Kadile for your chelation. You will
    merely have to sign a consent form stating that you have
    been given certain advice regarding it (that you are quite
    free to disbelieve).

    Or believe.

    Quoted message said:

    So much for the supposed suppression of this common quack
    practice.

    Peter Moran

    LOL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    It's not suppressed, it's just a common quack practice.

    ZZzz.

    Your source would be??

    Quoted message said:

    No pateint had documented benefits

    NO compllaints were made from any patients.

    Quoted message said:

    What happened was that a complaint was made

    But NOT from Quck Barrett or the NACHF.

    And I am the *king* of England, just ask me.

    Jan

  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The Kadile case and chelation
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 3/20/2004 8:28 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    NO compllaints were made from any patients.

    nah...surely not the two who had heart attacks (one
    died)..and the one with a stroke..

    perhaps they are as dumb as you Janny

    hawki.....

  4. "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Haven't heard from our mate Tim Bolen for a while, so an
    update on the Kadile case that refers to the true facts,
    now that it is concluded and participants can sp[eak
    more freely.

    Neither the NACHF, nor Dr Barrett nor any healthfraud
    agency was


    responsible

    Quoted message said:

    for bringing the case against him. The FDA and some
    insurance agencies brought the local medical board's
    attention to the fate of certain of Kadile's patients who
    had undergone chelation.

    Court documents show that of five patients who underwent
    chelation two subsequently had heart attacks, one of whom
    died, and another had a


    stroke.

    Quoted message said:

    This is what initially brought him to the attention of
    these parties. These facts were never disputed in court.
    Neither was the fact that he was advertising the treatment
    with many false claims.

    His case was lost. He is to undergo assessment of his
    competency to practice and retraining if necessary. He is
    to pay costs.

    An interesting outcome is that Kadile can still do
    chelation therapy as an off-label usage of chelation
    agents that happen to be approved by the FDA for
    other purposes. So much for the supposed suppression
    of the method.

    If you are a true-blue alternative believer you can thus
    still go and see


    Dr

    Quoted message said:

    Kadile for your chelation. You will merely have to sign a
    consent form stating that you have been given certain
    advice regarding it (that you are quite free to
    disbelieve). So much for the supposed suppression of this
    common quack practice.

    Peter Moran

    No pateint had documented benefits

    What happened was that a complaint was made

    The Final Order directly from the Board:

    drl.state.wi.us1103014.htm

  5. Quoted message said:

    "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:405d1179$0$303$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-
    01.brisbane.pipenetworks.


    com.au...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Haven't heard from our mate Tim Bolen for a while, so an
    update on the Kadile case that refers to the true facts,
    now that it is concluded and participants can sp[eak more
    freely.

    Neither the NACHF, nor Dr Barrett nor any healthfraud
    agency was


    responsible

    Quoted message said:

    for bringing the case against him. The FDA and some
    insurance agencies brought the local medical board's
    attention to the fate of certain of Kadile's patients who
    had undergone chelation.

    Court documents show that of five patients who underwent
    chelation two subsequently had heart attacks, one of whom
    died, and another had a


    stroke.

    Quoted message said:

    This is what initially brought him to the attention of
    these parties. These facts were never disputed in court.
    Neither was the fact that he was advertising the
    treatment with many false claims.

    His case was lost. He is to undergo assessment of his
    competency to practice and retraining if necessary. He is
    to pay costs.

    An interesting outcome is that Kadile can still do
    chelation therapy as an off-label usage of chelation
    agents that happen to be approved by the FDA for other
    purposes. So much for the supposed suppression of the
    method.

    If you are a true-blue alternative believer you can thus
    still go and see


    Dr

    Quoted message said:

    Kadile for your chelation. You will merely have to sign a
    consent form stating that you have been given certain
    advice regarding it (that you are quite free to
    disbelieve). So much for the supposed suppression of this
    common quack practice.

    Peter Moran

    No pateint had documented benefits

    What happened was that a complaint was made

    The Final Order directly from the Board:

    drl.state.wi.us1103014.htm

    Thank you for posting that link. With the exception of Anth,
    it appears that almost all the proper citations & research
    are being done by skeptics.

  6. "MHA Needs More Skeptics" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:405d1179$0$303$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-
    01.brisbane.pipenetworks.


    com.au...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Haven't heard from our mate Tim Bolen for a while, so
    an update on the Kadile case that refers to the true
    facts, now that it is concluded and participants can
    sp[eak more freely.

    Neither the NACHF, nor Dr Barrett nor any healthfraud
    agency was


    responsible

    Quoted message said:

    for bringing the case against him. The FDA and some
    insurance


    agencies

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    brought the local medical board's attention to the fate
    of certain of Kadile's patients who had undergone
    chelation.

    Court documents show that of five patients who
    underwent chelation two subsequently had heart attacks,
    one of whom died, and another had a


    stroke.

    Quoted message said:

    This is what initially brought him to the attention of
    these parties. These facts were never disputed in
    court. Neither was the fact that


    he

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was advertising the treatment with many false claims.

    His case was lost. He is to undergo assessment of his
    competency to practice and retraining if necessary. He
    is to pay costs.

    An interesting outcome is that Kadile can still do
    chelation therapy as


    an

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    off-label usage of chelation agents that happen to be
    approved by the


    FDA

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for other purposes. So much for the supposed
    suppression of the


    method.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    If you are a true-blue alternative believer you can
    thus still go and


    see

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Dr

    Quoted message said:

    Kadile for your chelation. You will merely have to sign
    a consent form stating that you have been given certain
    advice regarding it (that you


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    quite free to disbelieve). So much for the supposed
    suppression of


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    common quack practice.

    Peter Moran

    No pateint had documented benefits

    What happened was that a complaint was made

    The Final Order directly from the Board:

    drl.state.wi.us1103014.htm

    Thank you for posting that link. With the exception of
    Anth, it appears


    that

    Quoted message said:

    almost all the proper citations & research are being done
    by skeptics.

    It is a tough job, considering how many lies and yarns the
    Alties like to spin.

  7. On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:52:26 +1000, "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Haven't heard from our mate Tim Bolen for a while, so an
    update on the Kadile case that refers to the true facts,
    now that it is concluded and participants can sp[eak
    more freely.

    Some random thoughts about bin Blowpipe ....

    The proctologist had a press conference. They found his
    head.

    He needs to save his breath... he'll need it to
    inflate his date.

    He's a guy .. just because he has one, doesn't mean he has
    to be one.

    Some people are alive only because it's illegal to
    shoot them.

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