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  1. Just got back from test riding the new Cannondale Six13... I may be
    partial to the C'dales since I own a couple, but dang... Gotta be the
    sweetest bike I've ever ridden. Check it out here:
    http://www.legalizemycannondale.com/index_en.html

    Anyone out there had an oppertunity to mount one of these babies yet?
    Too light for the Tour :/, but not to light for me... Don't know
    how/if I will come up with the cash, but a guy can dream...

  2. scottt said:

    Just got back from test riding the new Cannondale Six13... I may be
    partial to the C'dales since I own a couple, but dang... Gotta be the
    sweetest bike I've ever ridden. Check it out here:
    http://www.legalizemycannondale.com/index_en.html

    Anyone out there had an oppertunity to mount one of these babies yet?
    Too light for the Tour :/, but not to light for me... Don't know
    how/if I will come up with the cash, but a guy can dream...

    How long is the warranty good for? (Maybe you ought to buy a 2nd one as a
    replacement while you're at it.)

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (scottt) said:

    Just got back from test riding the new Cannondale Six13... I may be
    partial to the C'dales since I own a couple, but dang... Gotta be the
    sweetest bike I've ever ridden. Check it out here:
    http://www.legalizemycannondale.com/index_en.html

    Anyone out there had an oppertunity to mount one of these babies yet?
    Too light for the Tour :/, but not to light for me... Don't know
    how/if I will come up with the cash, but a guy can dream...

    Actually, yes.

    Thanks to the generous demo program coming to my town recently, I got to
    take one for a test drive. The stupid thing, equipped with Record 10v, a
    carbon bar probably worth more than my racing bike, and that wacky
    Cannondale-only BB/crank, completely seduced me. But I am vulnerable to
    the seductive charms of a really really light bicycle.

    You can read about my experience at http://www.wiredcola.com/

    Shameless blog plugger,
    --
    Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
    President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

  4. trg said:
    scottt said:

    Just got back from test riding the new Cannondale Six13... I may be
    partial to the C'dales since I own a couple, but dang... Gotta be the
    sweetest bike I've ever ridden. Check it out here:
    http://www.legalizemycannondale.com/index_en.html

    Anyone out there had an oppertunity to mount one of these babies yet?
    Too light for the Tour :/, but not to light for me... Don't know
    how/if I will come up with the cash, but a guy can dream...

    How long is the warranty good for? (Maybe you ought to buy a 2nd one as a
    replacement while you're at it.)

    Meh, I doubt the lifespan of the frame is THAT much less than a
    "normal" Cannondale.

    Which tends to at least be a *fairly* long time. I've seen other Al
    frames (Bianchis) which had horribly high failure rates. I haven't
    personally seen the same with Cannonballs, though I'll admit I don't
    know all that many people who ride them these days.

  5. scottt said:

    Just got back from test riding the new Cannondale Six13... I may be
    partial to the C'dales since I own a couple, but dang... Gotta be the
    sweetest bike I've ever ridden. Check it out here:
    http://www.legalizemycannondale.com/index_en.html

    Anyone out there had an oppertunity to mount one of these babies yet?
    Too light for the Tour :/, but not to light for me... Don't know
    how/if I will come up with the cash, but a guy can dream...

    The Too-Light-for-the-Tour thing was a marketing ploy,
    nothing more. Any manufacturer there could build a bike
    that was under the weight limit. Heck, I've even build up a
    15-pound Heron without getting into stupid-light parts!

    Todd Kuzma
    Heron Bicycles
    Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery
    LaSalle, Il 815-223-1776
    http://www.heronbicycles.com
    http://www.tullios.com

  6. "trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    scottt said:

    Just got back from test riding the new Cannondale Six13... I may be
    partial to the C'dales since I own a couple, but dang... Gotta be the
    sweetest bike I've ever ridden. Check it out here:
    http://www.legalizemycannondale.com/index_en.html

    Anyone out there had an oppertunity to mount one of these babies yet?
    Too light for the Tour :/, but not to light for me... Don't know
    how/if I will come up with the cash, but a guy can dream...

    How long is the warranty good for? (Maybe you ought to buy a 2nd one as a
    replacement while you're at it.)

    The warranty is the same as (most quality bikes)all Cannondale bikes
    (Life on frame and a year on components. What the hell's "buy a second
    one" supposed to mean? Just got done implying that the ride was
    expensive... If you are trying to say that the six13 is so
    (carbon)light it will not last or it'll break, you are incorrect. The
    thing's a piece of art and built like a brick [censored] house. I hammered
    the bageebeezs out of it too. And for a big boy, that thing was the
    most stable, light and quickest ride I have ever been on...period.

  7. Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (scottt) said:

    Just got back from test riding the new Cannondale Six13... I may be
    partial to the C'dales since I own a couple, but dang... Gotta be the
    sweetest bike I've ever ridden. Check it out here:
    http://www.legalizemycannondale.com/index_en.html

    Anyone out there had an oppertunity to mount one of these babies yet?
    Too light for the Tour :/, but not to light for me... Don't know
    how/if I will come up with the cash, but a guy can dream...

    Actually, yes.

    Thanks to the generous demo program coming to my town recently, I got to
    take one for a test drive. The stupid thing, equipped with Record 10v, a
    carbon bar probably worth more than my racing bike, and that wacky
    Cannondale-only BB/crank, completely seduced me. But I am vulnerable to
    the seductive charms of a really really light bicycle.

    You can read about my experience at http://www.wiredcola.com/

    Shameless blog plugger,

    Well put Ryan... Liked your article, nice flavor...

  8. On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:25:04 -0500, Todd Kuzma <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    The Too-Light-for-the-Tour thing was a marketing ploy,
    nothing more. Any manufacturer there could build a bike
    that was under the weight limit.

    My bike shop boss recently built up a "too-light" Colnago to go with
    his "too-light" Litespeed. I'm sure 500 other bikes could be done up
    the same way.

    It's not that hard at all.

    Barry

  9. "scottt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    scottt said:

    Just got back from test riding the new Cannondale Six13...


    I may be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    partial to the C'dales since I own a couple, but dang...


    Gotta be the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sweetest bike I've ever ridden. Check it out here:
    http://www.legalizemycannondale.com/index_en.html

    Anyone out there had an oppertunity to mount one of these


    babies yet?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Too light for the Tour :/, but not to light for me... Don't


    know

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    how/if I will come up with the cash, but a guy can dream...

    How long is the warranty good for? (Maybe you ought to buy a


    2nd one as a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    replacement while you're at it.)

    The warranty is the same as (most quality bikes)all Cannondale


    bikes

    Quoted message said:

    (Life on frame and a year on components. What the hell's "buy a


    second

    Quoted message said:

    one" supposed to mean? Just got done implying that the ride was
    expensive... If you are trying to say that the six13 is so
    (carbon)light it will not last or it'll break, you are


    incorrect. The

    Quoted message said:

    thing's a piece of art and built like a brick [censored] house. I


    hammered

    Quoted message said:

    the bageebeezs out of it too. And for a big boy, that thing was


    the

    Quoted message said:

    most stable, light and quickest ride I have ever been


    on...period.

    Just a brief note on warranties, and Cannondale's warranty in
    specific. The warranty covers the frame against "manufacturing
    defects in materials and/or workmanship for the lifetime of the
    original owner." "This warranty is not meant to suggest or imply
    that the bicycle cannot be broken or will last forever. It does
    mean that the bicycle is covered subject to the terms of the
    warranty."

    So, unless a fatigue failure is a "manufacturing defect in
    materials or workmanship," the warranty would not apply if your
    bike just got old and cracked -- like mine did a month ago -- and
    you probably would not have a warranty claim. Also, being that I
    could not find my receipt from 1986, I was SOL. So, a life time
    warranty does not mean you get a new bike every time one breaks
    for as long as you live. And if you are really looking for
    something that will last forever (if there is such a thing), you
    better choose a frame material with a long fatigue life and not
    just one with a good warranty.

    By the way, I also broke a 2.8 -- which broke way prematurely due
    to a real defect. I got a replacement CAAD 4 for free. It is
    light and climbs well, but it has the oddest fee to the rear
    end -- almost squashy and vague when sitting (no, it is not my
    saddle), but then it is very positive when sprinting or climbing
    out of the saddle. All in all though, not a bad bike for
    free. -- Jay Beattie.

  10. Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (scottt) wrote: >Don't know
    how/if I will come up with the cash, but a guy can dream...

    Did they quote you a price?
    If so, how is it equipped?

    Tim

  11. Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote: >My bike shop boss recently


    built up a "too-light" Colnago to go with

    Quoted message said:

    his "too-light" Litespeed. I'm sure 500 other bikes could be done up
    the same way.

    It's not that hard at all.

    Barry

    Cool. I might be interested. How much would it cost and what is the warranty?

    Tim

  12. scott-<< Just got back from test riding the new Cannondale Six13... I may be
    partial to the C'dales since I own a couple, but dang... Gotta be the
    sweetest bike I've ever ridden. >><BR><BR>

    Ride 20 'sweet bikes' and all will hagve goods and others. Ride some that weigh
    3 pounds more than the C-Dale and you may not be any faster than the C-Dale.

    WAY to much emphasis on bicycle equipment. Please remember that the boys at
    Saeco have a van full of spares, a legion of wrenches. They ride a 'new' bike
    each day.

    No doubt the c-dale is a 'sweet' ride but it won't make the sun come up any
    earlier, make the birds sing, the flowers bloom . YOU still gotta push it up
    the hills.

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  13. tullio-<< Heck, I've even build up a
    15-pound Heron without getting into stupid-light parts! >><BR><BR>

    We have too with Calfees..I saw a 11 pound Storck yesterday. from a german
    manufacturer.

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  14. (TDWFL) said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote: >My bike shop boss recently


    built up a "too-light" Colnago to go with

    Quoted message said:

    his "too-light" Litespeed. I'm sure 500 other bikes could be done up
    the same way.

    It's not that hard at all.

    Barry

    Cool. I might be interested. How much would it cost and what is the warranty?

    For what? All of them? <G> Check any good LBS.

    Barry

  15. Quoted message said:

    Bonehenge [email hidden] wrote: >On 16 Jul 2004


    11:19:10 GMT said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote: >My bike shop boss recently


    built up a "too-light" Colnago to go with

    Quoted message said:

    his "too-light" Litespeed. I'm sure 500 other bikes could be done up
    the same way.

    It's not that hard at all.

    Barry

    Cool. I might be interested. How much would it cost and what is the


    warranty?

    For what? All of them? <G> Check any good LBS.

    How much would it cost for a sub 16 lb. Colnago or Lightspeed? How much would
    it cost if you don't own a bike shop?

    Tim

  16. (TDWFL) said:

    How much would it cost for a sub 16 lb. Colnago or Lightspeed? How much would
    it cost if you don't own a bike shop?

    How about $43-4500 for a Trek?

    The Litespeed and Colnago would run you about $5500.

    FWIW, my Trek _5200_, which isn't even the top of the line, is 16
    pounds in a 58cm.

    Barry

  17. tdw-<< How much would it cost for a sub 16 lb. Colnago or Lightspeed? How much
    would
    it cost if you don't own a bike shop? >><BR><BR>

    Calfee Dragonfly, carbon fork, Record, hand-made wheels-About $6200..easily
    under 16 pounds.

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  18. Quoted message said:

    How about $43-4500 for a Trek?

    The Litespeed and Colnago would run you about $5500.

    Yowza. How long would you guys expect to keep, and ride, such an investment?

    Joe

  19. Joseph Kubera said:
    Quoted message said:

    How about $43-4500 for a Trek?

    The Litespeed and Colnago would run you about $5500.

    Yowza. How long would you guys expect to keep, and ride, such an
    investment?

    With basic maintenance, 10 years easy.

    Bill "at least IMNSE(xpert)O" S.

  20. scottt said:

    Just got back from test riding the new Cannondale Six13... I may be
    partial to the C'dales since I own a couple, but dang... Gotta be the
    sweetest bike I've ever ridden. Check it out here:
    http://www.legalizemycannondale.com/index_en.html

    Anyone out there had an oppertunity to mount one of these babies yet?
    Too light for the Tour :/, but not to light for me... Don't know
    how/if I will come up with the cash, but a guy can dream...

    Go on then, how much faster does it make you over 10/25/50 miles?

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