Or...
We could have a swimming coach/teaching competition. Something in
the line of those "which kung-fu school is better?". 🙂 To be
scientific, we would do something like:
1) each coach competing would be assigned (say) 10 randon persons with different swimming
skills, for instance body builders, tall slim swimmers, unfit persons... Complete random,
but it would be important to have "dificult cases." Thus avoiding that natural selection
would dispirit naturally slow swimmers. The benefits of technique over natural talent are
shown on how well/fast/steady a swimming chalenged person can swim putting some dedication.
2) they would have a year to train, practicing 1 hour a day
3) i would love to see timing in the far ranges of 1500m and in the 50m for each swimmer, no
specialists here!
- Winning coach would be
- least accumulated time of all swimmers. So that it is the *training* that would be competing,
not who have the most natural talented swimmer
- best timing improvement,
- Group time would be the time of the slowest swimmer to complete.
- pace consistency/steadiness
- least amount of dropouts, injuries
- etc ????
Just some fast ideas. Nelson
MJuric wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:diablo said:
so you're proposing that the swimmers within the group volunteer to be 'coached' a certain way,
and see which methodology leads to the best improvement?
Something to that effect. For instance we recently went thru the SL vs SR thing and Larry is
of the opionion that this is directly related to ones "kicking" prowess. If a R.S.S. Swimmer
is like minded then they'd join up with Larry's camp. OTOH say someone like Terry would say
that SL is far more important than the influence of the kick. If another swimmer agreed
they'd join up with Terry's camp. Of course the first order of business would be to decide
what defines the different camp(s). I suspect that keeping the number of camps as small as
possible would be easiest but having more may put out a few more fires/debates. The next
step would to be recruiting for the different camps, then testing based on agreed upon
"factors" then the experiment begins. Again far from labratory grade scientific, however
with a large enough population we may or may not see a difference. I suspect that we don't
have enough willing "giuniee<SP> pigs" in R.S.S. but who says they all have to be from here.
Anyone with web access could partake. On the benefit side for the subjects we potentially
would get proffesional/semiproffesional input or guidence. On the benefit for the
proffesionals they would have access to alot of people to try "new" methods on and in the
case of someone like Terry who does this for a living alot of press/exposure. For swimming
as a whole potentially we can draw some conclusions on swimming methodolgy. Potentially for
everyone involved, some good discussion and alot of fun!
~Matt
Quoted message said:
<MJuric> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:Over the past year or two on this group we've have numerous discussions about swimming, alot
conerning technique versus brute workout. As with most groups on the internet very little has
been done with these arguments. After a not so unusual pool session and idea struck me. Why
couldn't rec.sport.swimming conduct the largest all inclusive pool study to date? This is the
interenet and being such we do have communcation tools avaialable that simply weren't available
until recent years. Seems to me that a study with a broad level of people with two different
approaches, one technique oriented the other more "work" oriented could be beneficial. What I
had in mind was the two, three or even four camps come up with specs to be taken prior to the
test period. Things like, height weight, gender etc would seem to be obvious factors. Other
data such as speed in the 50,100,200,400,1500? I'm sure Larry would like to see, Kicking speed
in the above. Terry might want to know SC in the above. What I'm proposing is a study that
involves some of the coaches/swimmers that believe in the different styles of swimming
colaberating and guiding our very own Rec.Sport.Swimming -Swimmers to become better swimmers
via there methodolgy. Over a period of time these coaches/swimmers would make reccommendations
to the swimmers of there group on the proper direction to go. After the study all of the data
could be compiled and compared. Although highly simplified as stated above, I believe potential
possible if compiled properly. Granted this study would not be of a "scientific" grade, but I
believe not only would it allow for a generic comparison between the results, but it would be a
lot fo fun too.
~Matt
