The atkins diet ....

Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i decided it
was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on with it, was doing
well ... my massive appetite is now only a fraction of what it was. However
the last 2 days ive been feeling awful, stomach pain for the most part of
the day, diarrhea (its like brown water and i've counted 16 times of toilet
visiting yesterday) and a further 5 more today. Am also feeling naeseated
.... is this normal? how long can i expect this to last? Its costing me a
fortune in toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for what im
ejecting!

thx for ur help

Are you exercising?

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Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i decided

it

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was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on with it, was

doing

Quoted message said:

well ... my massive appetite is now only a fraction of what it was.

However

Quoted message said:

the last 2 days ive been feeling awful, stomach pain for the most part of
the day, diarrhea (its like brown water and i've counted 16 times of

toilet

Quoted message said:

visiting yesterday) and a further 5 more today. Am also feeling naeseated
... is this normal? how long can i expect this to last? Its costing me a
fortune in toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for what

im

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ejecting!

thx for ur help

No, if anything, some people complain of constipation. However, there are
"low carb" foods with sugar alcohols. Sugar alcohols are like a massive
laxative. The are often found in low carb and low sugar candy or bars.

Otherwise, you may want to look at conventional causes like food poisoning,
or a virus.

Cubit

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Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i decided

it

Quoted message said:

was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on with it, was

doing

Quoted message said:

well ... my massive appetite is now only a fraction of what it was.

However

Quoted message said:

the last 2 days ive been feeling awful, stomach pain for the most part of
the day, diarrhea (its like brown water and i've counted 16 times of

toilet

Quoted message said:

visiting yesterday) and a further 5 more today. Am also feeling naeseated
... is this normal? how long can i expect this to last? Its costing me a
fortune in toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for what

im

Quoted message said:

ejecting!

thx for ur help

Your body is eliminating excess water weight.

That's a good thing.

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Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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Yep im eating all my veggies, lettuce and peppers etc

Lots of eggs and fresh meat

Im doing 20mins on rowing machine daily, well i was until i started

feeling

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ill.

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No, if anything, some people complain of constipation. However, there

are

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"low carb" foods with sugar alcohols. Sugar alcohols are like a massive
laxative. The are often found in low carb and low sugar candy or bars.

Otherwise, you may want to look at conventional causes like food

poisoning,

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or a virus.

Cubit

"Steven Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i

decided

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it

Quoted message said:

was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on with it, was

doing

Quoted message said:

well ... my massive appetite is now only a fraction of what it was.

However

Quoted message said:

the last 2 days ive been feeling awful, stomach pain for the most part

of

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the day, diarrhea (its like brown water and i've counted 16 times of

toilet

Quoted message said:

visiting yesterday) and a further 5 more today. Am also feeling

naeseated

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

... is this normal? how long can i expect this to last? Its costing

me

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a

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fortune in toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for

what

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im

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ejecting!

thx for ur help

Isn't Pepsi Max the one with half the sugar of regular Pepsi? If so,
that's still quite a lot of sugar, so don't drink it. Try cutting out the
diet sodas too and see if it helps, but I doubt that's it. I get mild
diarrhea if I eat too much spinach, and severe if I eat anything with sugar
alcohols. Are you eating hot peppers? Those do it to some people too.
Sounds like food poisoning, though, honestly. Any chance that you ate some
under-cooked meat recently?

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Steven Summers said:

im drinking diet coca cola and pepsi max, its nothign to do with these is
it? if it is ill cut these out and drink water exclusively.

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Yep im eating all my veggies, lettuce and peppers etc

Lots of eggs and fresh meat

Im doing 20mins on rowing machine daily, well i was until i started

feeling

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ill.

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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No, if anything, some people complain of constipation. However, there

are

Quoted message said:

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"low carb" foods with sugar alcohols. Sugar alcohols are like a massive
laxative. The are often found in low carb and low sugar candy or bars.

Otherwise, you may want to look at conventional causes like food

poisoning,

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or a virus.

Cubit

"Steven Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i

decided

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it
> was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on with it, was
doing
> well ... my massive appetite is now only a fraction of what it was.
However
> the last 2 days ive been feeling awful, stomach pain for the most part

of

Quoted message said:

> the day, diarrhea (its like brown water and i've counted 16 times of
toilet
> visiting yesterday) and a further 5 more today. Am also feeling

naeseated

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> ... is this normal? how long can i expect this to last? Its costing

me

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a

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> fortune in toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for

what

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im
> ejecting!
>
> thx for ur help
>
>

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Even if it's not the diet cola, you should cut them out and be drinking
water. Many people don't lose weight because of diet soda.

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im drinking diet coca cola and pepsi max, its nothign to do with these is
it? if it is ill cut these out and drink water exclusively.

"Steven Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Yep im eating all my veggies, lettuce and peppers etc

Lots of eggs and fresh meat

Im doing 20mins on rowing machine daily, well i was until i started

feeling

Quoted message said:

ill.

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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No, if anything, some people complain of constipation. However, there

are

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"low carb" foods with sugar alcohols. Sugar alcohols are like a

massive

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laxative. The are often found in low carb and low sugar candy or

bars.

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Otherwise, you may want to look at conventional causes like food

poisoning,

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or a virus.

Cubit

"Steven Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i

decided

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it
> was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on with it,

was

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doing
> well ... my massive appetite is now only a fraction of what it was.
However
> the last 2 days ive been feeling awful, stomach pain for the most

part

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of

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> the day, diarrhea (its like brown water and i've counted 16 times of
toilet
> visiting yesterday) and a further 5 more today. Am also feeling

naeseated

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> ... is this normal? how long can i expect this to last? Its costing

me

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a

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> fortune in toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for

what

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im
> ejecting!
>
> thx for ur help
>
>

Nah, Pepsi Max is the one with extra caffine.

Luna said:

Isn't Pepsi Max the one with half the sugar of regular Pepsi? If so,
that's still quite a lot of sugar, so don't drink it.

Yep im eating all my veggies, lettuce and peppers etc

Lots of eggs and fresh meat

Im doing 20mins on rowing machine daily, well i was until i started feeling
ill.

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No, if anything, some people complain of constipation. However, there are
"low carb" foods with sugar alcohols. Sugar alcohols are like a massive
laxative. The are often found in low carb and low sugar candy or bars.

Otherwise, you may want to look at conventional causes like food

poisoning,

Quoted message said:

or a virus.

Cubit

"Steven Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i

decided

Quoted message said:

it

Quoted message said:

was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on with it, was

doing

Quoted message said:

well ... my massive appetite is now only a fraction of what it was.

However

Quoted message said:

the last 2 days ive been feeling awful, stomach pain for the most part

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the day, diarrhea (its like brown water and i've counted 16 times of

toilet

Quoted message said:

visiting yesterday) and a further 5 more today. Am also feeling

naeseated

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

... is this normal? how long can i expect this to last? Its costing me

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fortune in toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for

what

Quoted message said:

im

Quoted message said:

ejecting!

thx for ur help

im drinking diet coca cola and pepsi max, its nothign to do with these is
it? if it is ill cut these out and drink water exclusively.

"Steven Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Yep im eating all my veggies, lettuce and peppers etc

Lots of eggs and fresh meat

Im doing 20mins on rowing machine daily, well i was until i started

feeling

Quoted message said:

ill.

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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No, if anything, some people complain of constipation. However, there

are

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"low carb" foods with sugar alcohols. Sugar alcohols are like a massive
laxative. The are often found in low carb and low sugar candy or bars.

Otherwise, you may want to look at conventional causes like food

poisoning,

Quoted message said:

or a virus.

Cubit

"Steven Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i

decided

Quoted message said:

it

Quoted message said:

was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on with it, was

doing

Quoted message said:

well ... my massive appetite is now only a fraction of what it was.

However

Quoted message said:

the last 2 days ive been feeling awful, stomach pain for the most part

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the day, diarrhea (its like brown water and i've counted 16 times of

toilet

Quoted message said:

visiting yesterday) and a further 5 more today. Am also feeling

naeseated

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

... is this normal? how long can i expect this to last? Its costing

me

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fortune in toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for

what

Quoted message said:

im

Quoted message said:

ejecting!

thx for ur help

Steven Summers said:

Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight.

Hi Steven! Welcome to the group. I'm sure someone else has already
responded with some solutions to your intestinal issues, but I just wanted
to say hi!

Carol
--
227/211/150 (Thursdays)
Fasting BG: 119
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001
http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie

thx for everyones replies .... ill cut out the diet sodas and just drink
water. Ill see how it goes.

Thx again.

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Steven Summers said:

Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight.

Hi Steven! Welcome to the group. I'm sure someone else has already
responded with some solutions to your intestinal issues, but I just wanted
to say hi!

Carol
--
227/211/150 (Thursdays)
Fasting BG: 119
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001
http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie

Steven Summers wrote:
| Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i
| decided it was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on
| with it, was doing well ... my massive appetite is now only a
| fraction of what it was. However the last 2 days ive been feeling
| awful, stomach pain for the most part of the day, diarrhea (its like
| brown water and i've counted 16 times of toilet visiting yesterday)
| and a further 5 more today. Am also feeling naeseated ... is this
| normal? how long can i expect this to last? Its costing me a fortune
| in toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for what im
| ejecting!
|
| thx for ur help

Sounds like a virus or stomach flu.
--
Peter
270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/weightlosspix/weightlosspix.html

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says...

Quoted message said:

Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i decided it
was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on with it, was doing
well ... my massive appetite is now only a fraction of what it was. However
the last 2 days ive been feeling awful, stomach pain for the most part of
the day, diarrhea (its like brown water and i've counted 16 times of toilet
visiting yesterday) and a further 5 more today. Am also feeling naeseated
... is this normal? how long can i expect this to last? Its costing me a
fortune in toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for what im
ejecting!

Hi Steven, welcome to the group! Are you eating low-carb bars, shakes or other
manufactured low-carb products that contain sugar alcohols such as maltitol,
lactitol, xylotol, etc.? Sugar alcohols can have a STRONG laxative effect on
some people. If so, the good news is that you are probably not ingesting much in
the way of carbs from them (the "net effective carb" rule applies) -- the bad
news is that you are spending the day on the toilet, cramping, running out of TP,
stinking up the bathroom, and probably have a sore tushy by this point. Some
people can handle some sugar alcohols and some can't. Some can handle one kind,
but not the another -- it's a crapshoot (literally).

You may also have something else going on, though, such as a virus, food
poisoning or allergy to some new food. Most people tend to get constipation when
they first start low-carbing, so this IS unusual. If you ARE eating a lot of
processed foods -- KNOCK IT OFF! Seriously, it's best to try to stick to the
basics when you first start low-carbing, get through the "carb flu" and have a
good handle on it. After a month or so, you can try new things one at a time to
see how they affect you. NOTE: If something with sugar alcohols does NOT cause
digestive upset, chances are that you are absorbing more carbs than the "net"
claimed on the label.

--
Saffire
205/149/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Hansen's has diet soda sweetened with Splenda, as I understand Atkins,
these are better than the aspartame (sp?) sweetened ones.

I'd second (or maybe fifth by now) the comments about sugar alcohols.
They certainly mess up my gut.

Steven Summers said:

im drinking diet coca cola and pepsi max, its nothign to do with these is
it? if it is ill cut these out and drink water exclusively.

"Steven Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Steven Summers" <> Yep im eating all my veggies, lettuce and peppers etc

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Lots of eggs and fresh meat

Im doing 20mins on rowing machine daily, well i was until i started

feeling

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ill.

Steven, you wrote that you just started last Monday. Today is Sunday. And
yet you are now writing that you are eating "all my veggies, lettuce and
peppers, etc." and drinking soda pop. This is NOT the Atkins Diet. If you
didn't read the book, you need to go back and re-read it. The first two
weeks of the diet are called "Induction" and what you are doing is...not
following the diet.

Pat in TX

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"Steven Summers" <> Yep im eating all my veggies, lettuce and peppers etc

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Lots of eggs and fresh meat

Im doing 20mins on rowing machine daily, well i was until i started

feeling

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ill.

Steven, you wrote that you just started last Monday. Today is Sunday. And
yet you are now writing that you are eating "all my veggies, lettuce and
peppers, etc." and drinking soda pop. This is NOT the Atkins Diet. If you
didn't read the book, you need to go back and re-read it. The first two
weeks of the diet are called "Induction" and what you are doing is...not
following the diet.

Huh? Lettuce and other veggies are definitely included in induction
from everything I've seen here. Soda pop, ok, you're right there, I
gather, but you're not just allowed to eat vegies but you're required to
on induction.

Priscilla

"Steven Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i
decided it was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on
with it, was doing well ... my massive appetite is now only a fraction
of what it was. However the last 2 days ive been feeling awful,
stomach pain for the most part of the day, diarrhea (its like brown
water and i've counted 16 times of toilet visiting yesterday) and a
further 5 more today. Am also feeling naeseated ... is this normal?
how long can i expect this to last? Its costing me a fortune in
toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for what im
ejecting!

thx for ur help

I also had extremely bad diarrhea during induction. I found out I was
intolerant to eggs (I was eating lots) and later narrowed it down to just
the whites. It took awhile to figure out through a process of elimination.

Yours may be caused by other foods or drinks. Testing them one at a time is
tedious, but it's pretty much the only solution.

~miette

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Hansen's has diet soda sweetened with Splenda, as I understand Atkins,
these are better than the aspartame (sp?) sweetened ones.

Until they come out with a new study, like they do for everything except
good natural foods located in the outside isle of the grocery stores.

Enjoy,
Curt

Steven Summers wrote on 8/1/2004 8:34 AM:

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Well im a 22 year old male who is very overweight. Last Monday i decided it
was time for a change, bought the atkins book and got on with it, was doing
well ... my massive appetite is now only a fraction of what it was. However
the last 2 days ive been feeling awful, stomach pain for the most part of
the day, diarrhea (its like brown water and i've counted 16 times of toilet
visiting yesterday) and a further 5 more today. Am also feeling naeseated
... is this normal? how long can i expect this to last? Its costing me a
fortune in toilet paper! Im drinking plenty of water to make up for what im
ejecting!

thx for ur help

Aren't you taking anything for it? Imodium (I use the generic when need
be) works quickly and helps keep you from being dehydrated. I'm sure
it's cheaper than all the toilet paper and your wasted time and energy!

- Joanne