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  1. Learning from those who ride bents long before me and the dislike of horses for
    'bents has stood me in good stead. Today when I was out on Mr N Frosty, a horse
    & rider were coming down a hill I was going up. So I stopped, beckoned for the
    rider to proceed and kept nattering to rider and horse as they came down. The
    rider stopped alongside me (on opposite side of road) and thanked me for my
    courtesy, saying that the horse she was on was a young horse and learning about
    being on the road. She went on to say that talking to her and the horse was
    exactly the right thing to do as it showed the horse I was not a threat and
    that if all road users were as courteous as I was (head swells...), life would
    be so much easier.

    So thanks guys - the 'bent threads proved exceedingly useful today :-)

    Cheers, helen s

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  2. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

    Learning from those who ride bents long before me and the dislike of horses for
    'bents has stood me in good stead. Today when I was out on Mr N Frosty, a horse
    & rider were coming down a hill I was going up. So I stopped, beckoned for the
    rider to proceed and kept nattering to rider and horse as they came down. The
    rider stopped alongside me (on opposite side of road) and thanked me for my
    courtesy, saying that the horse she was on was a young horse and learning about
    being on the road. She went on to say that talking to her and the horse was
    exactly the right thing to do as it showed the horse I was not a threat and
    that if all road users were as courteous as I was (head swells...), life would
    be so much easier.

    So thanks guys - the 'bent threads proved exceedingly useful today :-)

    Cheers, helen s

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    Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
    and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to
    self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.
    Cheers
    Graham
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  3. "Graham Bowers (Zen)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
    and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to
    self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.

    Yes, I have on occasion, they haven't dismounted but have pulled well off
    the beaten track to cede ROW.
    But I don't mind giving way anyway, they are another minority group that
    many motorists would like to see off the road, (something we have in common
    methinks) whereas to me they're part of the rural scene I enjoy.

    Pete

  4. Graham Bowers (Zen) said:

    Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
    and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to self
    and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.

    Do you mean the horse rider dismounting or the cyclist? I've known horse
    riders turn so the horse couldn't see the road, and I have also stopped
    and waited for a horse to calm down. Dismounting and getting onto the
    verge is something I need to do a couple of times a year, when there's a
    tractor or other agricultural machine that is taking up more than the
    width of the road. Better to get off than be flailed by a combine I
    reckon.

    Mike

  5. Quoted message said:

    Yes, I have on occasion, they haven't dismounted but have pulled well off
    the beaten track to cede ROW.

    The rider today offered to stop for me, but I indicated for her to proceed & I
    stopped. A little bit of courtesy doesn't hurt and costs nothing. Turns out
    that she appreicated it as the horse was a young horse she is training. I must
    have helped, as when I started off again, the horse wanted to follow me - seems
    I made a friend ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    But I don't mind giving way anyway, they are another minority group that
    many motorists would like to see off the road, (something we have in common
    methinks) whereas to me they're part of the rural scene I enjoy.

    Indeed. It was something the rider & I passed comment on today - non-motorised
    road users helping each other.

    Cheers, helen s

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  6. Mike Causer said:
    Graham Bowers (Zen) said:

    Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
    and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to self
    and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.

    Do you mean the horse rider dismounting or the cyclist?


    I meant the horse rider dismounting, but I see I wasn't very clear.
    I've known horse

    Quoted message said:

    riders turn so the horse couldn't see the road, and I have also stopped
    and waited for a horse to calm down.


    I also always stop and don't mind at all, life's too short anyway
    without risking upsetting a ton of bone and muscle with an ounce of
    brain :-)). I've always found the horse riders to be appreciative too.
    Just wondered what other experiences were out there.
    Dismounting and getting onto the

    Quoted message said:

    verge is something I need to do a couple of times a year, when there's a
    tractor or other agricultural machine that is taking up more than the
    width of the road. Better to get off than be flailed by a combine I
    reckon.

    Mike

  7. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I have on occasion, they haven't dismounted but have pulled well off
    the beaten track to cede ROW.

    The rider today offered to stop for me, but I indicated for her to proceed & I
    stopped. A little bit of courtesy doesn't hurt and costs nothing.


    Agreed, and is a pleasure to give. As I said, I have no issue, just
    curious about other experiences.
    Turns out

    Quoted message said:

    that she appreicated it as the horse was a young horse she is training. I must
    have helped, as when I started off again, the horse wanted to follow me - seems
    I made a friend ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    But I don't mind giving way anyway, they are another minority group that
    many motorists would like to see off the road, (something we have in common
    methinks) whereas to me they're part of the rural scene I enjoy.

    Indeed. It was something the rider & I passed comment on today - non-motorised
    road users helping each other.

    Cheers, helen s

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    Oh well, more field research needed on my part. I suppose I should
    impersonate a lady some of the time to determine if gender is a factor
    in exchanges that take place.
    Cheers
    Graham

  8. Graham Bowers (Zen) said:

    ...I suppose I should
    impersonate a lady some of the time to determine if gender is a


    factor

    Quoted message said:

    in exchanges that take place.

    why not just impersonate one for the simple pleasure it affords one
    like the rest of us?

    best wishes
    jane (on a w/e 🙂

  9. Graham Bowers (Zen) said:
    Quoted message said:


    Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
    and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to
    self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.

    You can be pretty sure your bike won't panic and take off on its own
    while you are dismounted, the horse rider can't be so sure and has
    more control if they stay mounted.

  10. Graham Bowers (Zen) said:

    Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
    and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to
    self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.

    I've had horse riders ride up a farm track off the road before to take
    their skittery steed away from the "perceived threat" of me approaching
    on my PDQ recumbent, so at least round here it's not all one sided.

    --
    Colin

  11. This reminded me of an incident earlier this summer when I was cycling along
    a country lane in deepest Norfolk minding my own business. Up ahead I
    noticed a slightly agitated horse being pulled along seemingly against its
    will. I slowed down and followed at a safe distance. Things eventually
    calmed down and I caught up with the horse party whereupon I heard the
    surprising explanation for the bother was that the horse didn't like llamas!
    This is not something you hear every day, and looking round a couple of
    llamas were calmly peering at us over the fence no doubt wondering what the
    fuss was about.

    Happy New Year
    Paul

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    Quoted message said:
    Graham Bowers (Zen) said:

    Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
    and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to
    self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.

    I've had horse riders ride up a farm track off the road before to take
    their skittery steed away from the "perceived threat" of me approaching on
    my PDQ recumbent, so at least round here it's not all one sided.

    --
    Colin


  12. Quoted message said:

    why not just impersonate one for the simple pleasure it affords one
    like the rest of us?

    best wishes
    jane (on a w/e 🙂


    I've taken up the bagpipes to legitimise my wearing of a skirt :-)

    Mind you I wasn't wearing my skirt when I came across a string of skittish
    race horses out by Middleham. Now there's a category of road user that
    needs lots of calm and soothing talk. The lead rider was very good with me
    and the horses :-)

    t'other Vernon
    in Leeds

  13. Quoted message said:

    Things eventually
    calmed down and I caught up with the horse party whereupon I heard the
    surprising explanation for the bother was that the horse didn't like


    llamas!

    Quoted message said:

    This is not something you hear every day, and looking round a couple of
    llamas were calmly peering at us over the fence no doubt wondering what


    the

    Quoted message said:

    fuss was about.

    I'm not surprised at all. I was startled by some llamas near Guisely just
    outside Leeds. They're not the sort of thing one expects to see when one is
    strolling along a foot path minding one's own business and admiring the
    scenery. Gave me quite a shock and nearly put me off my beer. Thankfully I
    made a near instant recovery.

    t'other Vernon
    in Leeds

  14. Graham Bowers (Zen) said:

    Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider
    "yielding" and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding
    the risk to self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one
    sided to me. Cheers

    From my recollection of riding in my distant youth, you're in a lot more
    control on the buggers back than if you're just hanging off the reins at the
    head end.

    You're far more able to project calm to the animal, also getting off is
    tricky if he's acting nervy.

    --
    Andy Morris

    AndyAtJinkasDotFreeserve.Co.UK

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  15. Quoted message said:

    I heard the
    surprising explanation for the bother was that the horse didn't like llamas!

    Well in Wendling, one of the inhabitants has had ostriches in his front
    garden... No, not me, three cats are quite sufficient.

    Cheers, helen s

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    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I heard the
    surprising explanation for the bother was that the horse didn't like


    llamas!

    Quoted message said:


    Well in Wendling, one of the inhabitants has had ostriches in his front
    garden... No, not me, three cats are quite sufficient.


    There used to be a flamingo that paddles in a cooling pond in the Teeside
    industrial estate - folk used to use it as a landmark - 'turn right by the
    Flamingo'. When it happened to me I was looking for a night club or pub to
    navigate by and enjoyed one of those special jaw dropping moments.

  17. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

    Well in Wendling, one of the inhabitants has had ostriches in his front
    garden... No, not me, three cats are quite sufficient.

    It would lead to trouble. Waffles would by trying to drag the ostriches
    in through the cat flap.

    --
    Dave...

    Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the
    future of the human race. - H. G. Wells

  18. The correct way to pass a horse is to stand on your pedals and bob up
    and down a little. It then thinks you are also a horse-rider.
    --
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    you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'.
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  19. Richard Bates said:

    The correct way to pass a horse is to stand on your pedals and bob up
    and down a little. It then thinks you are also a horse-rider.

    There's a challenge for you next time you're out on Mr Frosty and you
    meet a horse, Helen ;-)

    --
    Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
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    "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

  20. Quoted message said:


    There's a challenge for you next time you're out on Mr Frosty and you
    meet a horse, Helen ;-)

    Neigh lad, it would be an impossibility not a challenge!

    Cheers, helen s

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