Thank you, Dr. Chung

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Dear Dr. Chung,

You advice to me to do away with the short-lived beta blockers used for my bp control has saved me
a world of misery.

Thank you so very very much and grace to the Lord for having sent you here with us.

Rdg.,

FP

You are most welcome, Francis.

The glory is all God's. I am glad to have been able to help.

May you have a blessed X-mas.

Humbly,

Andrew

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Dear Dr. Chung,

You advice to me to do away with the short-lived beta blockers used for my bp control has saved
me a world of misery.

Thank you so very very much and grace to the Lord for having sent you here with us.

Rdg.,

FP

You are most welcome, Francis.

The glory is all God's. I am glad to have been able to help.

Thank you. Some more help. Could one just use aspirin to overcome the high cholestrol level? That is
to say, if I use a tablet of aspirin a day, would I still need any cholestrol reducer for the high
cholesterol level?

Thank you in advance,

FP
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May you have a blessed X-mas.

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Andrew

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Dear Dr. Chung,

You advice to me to do away with the short-lived beta blockers used for my bp control has
saved me a world of misery.

Thank you so very very much and grace to the Lord for having sent you here with us.

Rdg.,

FP

You are most welcome, Francis.

The glory is all God's. I am glad to have been able to help.

Thank you. Some more help. Could one just use aspirin to overcome the high cholestrol level?

No.

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That is to say, if I use a tablet of aspirin a day, would I still need any cholestrol reducer for
the high cholesterol level?

Yes, if your doctor recommends it.

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Thank you in advance,

You are welcome :-)

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Andrew

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That is to say, if I use a tablet of aspirin a day, would I still need any cholestrol reducer
for the high cholesterol level?

Yes, if your doctor recommends it.

I am seeing several doctors. Some say yes and some say no! Thus I don't know who to believe. What is
your view in view of my readings(LDL-direct 157//cholesterol 254//triglycerides 209)?

FP
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Thank you in advance,

You are welcome :-)

Humbly,

Andrew

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That is to say, if I use a tablet of aspirin a day, would I still need any cholestrol reducer
for the high cholesterol level?

Yes, if your doctor recommends it.

I am seeing several doctors. Some say yes and some say no! Thus I don't know who to believe. What
is your view in view of my readings(LDL-direct 157//cholesterol 254//triglycerides 209)?

Not enough information.

Humbly,

Andrew

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> That is to say, if I use a tablet of aspirin a day, would I still need any cholestrol
> reducer for the high cholesterol level?

Yes, if your doctor recommends it.

I am seeing several doctors. Some say yes and some say no! Thus I don't know who to believe.
What is your view in view of my readings(LDL-direct 157//cholesterol 254//triglycerides 209)?

Not enough information.

What other information would you need to help make a suggestion? I am 58 years old and weigh 156
libs(having lost 4)). When I had tinnitus a month ago, I went for a brain blood flow chart done,
which indicates my left side of the brain might have lack of oxygen supply due to the showing of
a red spot.

What else?

RDg.,

FP

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Humbly,

Andrew

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> That is to say, if I use a tablet of aspirin a day, would I still need any cholestrol
> reducer for the high cholesterol level?

Yes, if your doctor recommends it.

I am seeing several doctors. Some say yes and some say no! Thus I don't know who to believe.
What is your view in view of my readings(LDL-direct 157//cholesterol 254//triglycerides 209)?

Not enough information.

Would you want me to DHL you my latest report?

Rdg.,

FP

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Humbly,

Andrew

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> > That is to say, if I use a tablet of aspirin a day, would I still need any cholestrol
> > reducer for the high cholesterol level?
>
> Yes, if your doctor recommends it.

I am seeing several doctors. Some say yes and some say no! Thus I don't know who to believe.
What is your view in view of my readings(LDL-direct 157//cholesterol 254//triglycerides 209)?

Not enough information.

Would you want me to DHL you my latest report?

You are seeking medical advice rather than relevant (albeit general) medical information.
Ethically I am unable to provide medical advice without interviewing you, examining you, and
reviewing your records.

Perhaps the best way for me to help you is for you to list all the reasons that are compelling your
doctors to medicate first before lifestyle changes take hold so that I can comment on whether I
would agree.

Humbly,

Andrew

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> > > That is to say, if I use a tablet of aspirin a day, would I still need any cholestrol
> > > reducer for the high cholesterol level?
> >
> > Yes, if your doctor recommends it.
>
> I am seeing several doctors. Some say yes and some say no! Thus I don't know who to believe.
> What is your view in view of my readings(LDL-direct 157//cholesterol 254//triglycerides
> 209)?

Not enough information.

Would you want me to DHL you my latest report?

You are seeking medical advice rather than relevant (albeit general) medical information.
Ethically I am unable to provide medical advice without interviewing you, examining you, and
reviewing your records.

Perhaps the best way for me to help you is for you to list all the reasons that are compelling
your doctors to medicate first before lifestyle changes take hold so that I can comment on whether
I would agree.

It is the above-mentioned 3 readings(LDL-direct 157//cholesterol
254//triglycerides 209), and together with the fact that my Mom once had a stroke, by which the
doctor(#2) concluded I should take medication right away. By the way, the first doctor(#1),
which asked me to have that examination to be done, asked me to avoid eating highly cholestrated
food for 6 months before considering medication. The reason why none of them is authoritative to
me is because none of them was able to take care of and explain my unstable blood pressure.

FP
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Humbly,

Andrew

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> > > > That is to say, if I use a tablet of aspirin a day, would I still need any cholestrol
> > > > reducer for the high cholesterol level?
> > >
> > > Yes, if your doctor recommends it.
> >
> > I am seeing several doctors. Some say yes and some say no! Thus I don't know who to
> > believe. What is your view in view of my readings(LDL-direct 157//cholesterol
> > 254//triglycerides 209)?
>
> Not enough information.

Would you want me to DHL you my latest report?

You are seeking medical advice rather than relevant (albeit general) medical information.
Ethically I am unable to provide medical advice without interviewing you, examining you, and
reviewing your records.

Perhaps the best way for me to help you is for you to list all the reasons that are compelling
your doctors to medicate first before lifestyle changes take hold so that I can comment on
whether I would agree.

It is the above-mentioned 3 readings(LDL-direct 157//cholesterol
254//triglycerides 209), and together with the fact that my Mom once had a stroke, by which the
doctor(#2) concluded I should take medication right away. By the way, the first doctor(#1),
which asked me to have that examination to be done, asked me to avoid eating highly
cholestrated food for 6 months before considering medication. The reason why none of them is
authoritative to me is because none of them was able to take care of and explain my unstable
blood pressure.

FP

Ok. You have at least a few risk factors for atherosclerosis and they are:

(1) Family history of vascular disease.

(2) Hypertension.

(3) Gender (if male)

(4) Age (if greater than 35 yo)

(5) Other risk factors including being overweight, having diabetes, smoking, etc

If your doctors really suspect that you already have atherosclerosis based on their examining you,
then it is reasonable to start lipid-lowering medications now rather than wait until lifestyle
changes work (ie losing 10-15 lbs in 3 months and rechecking lipid profile). The goals of therapy is
typically to lower LDL less than 100 mg/dl and trigs less than 150 mg/dl.

Since I recall that you may have MetS, the only know "cure" for this is to lose weight.

Humbly,

Andrew

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If your doctors really suspect that you already have atherosclerosis based on their examining you,
then it is reasonable to start lipid-lowering medications now rather than wait until lifestyle
changes work (ie losing 10-15 lbs in 3 months and rechecking lipid profile). The goals of therapy
is typically to lower LDL less than 100 mg/dl and trigs less than 150 mg/dl.

Since I recall that you may have MetS, the only know "cure" for this is to lose weight.

I am 58 and weigh 157 lbs. How many more lbs should I lose in order to be optimal?

Rdg.,

FP
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Humbly,

Andrew

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If your doctors really suspect that you already have atherosclerosis based on their examining
you, then it is reasonable to start lipid-lowering medications now rather than wait until
lifestyle changes work (ie losing 10-15 lbs in 3 months and rechecking lipid profile). The goals
of therapy is typically to lower LDL less than 100 mg/dl and trigs less than 150 mg/dl.

Since I recall that you may have MetS, the only know "cure" for this is to lose weight.

I am 58 and weigh 157 lbs. How many more lbs should I lose in order to be optimal?

Depends on your height.

If you are 5'8" that might be another 17 lbs.

Humbly,

Andrew

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If your doctors really suspect that you already have atherosclerosis based on their examining
you, then it is reasonable to start lipid-lowering medications now rather than wait until
lifestyle changes work (ie losing 10-15 lbs in 3 months and rechecking lipid profile). The
goals of therapy is typically to lower LDL less than 100 mg/dl and trigs less than 150 mg/dl.

Since I recall that you may have MetS, the only know "cure" for this is to lose weight.

I am 58 and weigh 157 lbs. How many more lbs should I lose in order to be optimal?

Depends on your height.

If you are 5'8" that might be another 17 lbs.

17 lbs? That means I have to go down to 143-145. Going down that low could hurt the body. Wouldn't
it? OK...once I go down there, could I take away the lipid-lowering medicine at that time? By the
way, two bowls of rice are already 2 lbs. Could them be used to sustain a person?

Rdg.,

FP

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> If your doctors really suspect that you already have atherosclerosis based on their
> examining you, then it is reasonable to start lipid-lowering medications now rather than
> wait until lifestyle changes work (ie losing 10-15 lbs in 3 months and rechecking lipid
> profile). The goals of therapy is typically to lower LDL less than 100 mg/dl and trigs less
> than 150 mg/dl.
>
> Since I recall that you may have MetS, the only know "cure" for this is to lose weight.

I am 58 and weigh 157 lbs. How many more lbs should I lose in order to be optimal?

Depends on your height.

If you are 5'8" that might be another 17 lbs.

17 lbs? That means I have to go down to 143-145. Going down that low could hurt the body.
Wouldn't it?

No.

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OK...once I go down there, could I take away the lipid-lowering medicine at that time?

Possibly.

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By the way, two bowls of rice are already 2 lbs.

That would be two very big bowls.

A small bowl would be 6-8 ounces (less than 1/2 pound).

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Could them be used to sustain a person?

See:

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There is a link to the story of an American WWII POW that survived for more than 2 years on little
more than a daily slice of bread (2 ounces).

Have a lighter New Year :-)

Humbly,

Andrew

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OK...once I go down there, could I take away the lipid-lowering medicine at that time?

Possibly.

As long as it is not habit forming like drugs, I will try it. How likely is it not to become another
drug habit by taking lipid-lowering medicines?

THX

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OK...once I go down there, could I take away the lipid-lowering medicine at that time?

Possibly.

As long as it is not habit forming like drugs, I will try it. How likely is it not to become
another drug habit by taking lipid-lowering medicines?

Lipid-lowering medications are not habit forming, Francis.

May you have blessed New Years :-)

Humbly,

Andrew

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> OK...once I go down there, could I take away the lipid-lowering medicine at that time?

Possibly.

As long as it is not habit forming like drugs, I will try it. How likely is it not to become
another drug habit by taking lipid-lowering medicines?

Lipid-lowering medications are not habit forming, Francis.

OK...if they are not habit forming or don't produce horror side-effects as published, perhaps I will
try it someday. For the time being, i focus on losing weight and eating carefully. I drink herb tea
once a week as a 'maintenance' doze. My doctor told me not to bother until 3 months later as long as
I choose to eat carefully.

Happy New Year!

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May you have blessed New Years :-)

Humbly,

Andrew