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  1. I'm testing my new settings. Regarding food I'm still figuring out for
    tomorrow. I think mulled apple cider is in order. I'll post pics & the
    recipe in the am. Sleep tight, I'm going to bed!
    --
    My sig -

    Sheldon is the rec.food.cooking pet troll. Here's his pic
    http://www.bellydance.org/troll.html and here's why you don't argue with
    him http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm Smooches shelly girl 🙂}

  2. "~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm testing my new settings.

    Good grief. Don't *do* that -- grow the hell up, use your kill file -- if
    you can't use your self-control -- and move on. Trust me, after a few
    weeks, it's pretty painless.

    I can pretty much guarantee that if you don't heed my advice, you'll end up
    killfiled by many of those who've already killfiled the object of your
    affection.
    -j

  3. jacqui{JB} said:

    "~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm testing my new settings.

    Quoted message said:

    From J:

    Good grief. Don't *do* that -- grow the hell up, use your kill file -- if
    you can't use your self-control -- and move on. Trust me, after a few
    weeks, it's pretty painless.

    I can pretty much guarantee that if you don't heed my advice, you'll end up
    killfiled by many of those who've already killfiled the object of your
    affection.
    -j

    Must be the moon or something. I haven't been able to post here for a
    long time and suddenly I can during all of this, how shall we say,
    friction? I have been able to read things posted.

    I thoroughly agree with the advice above and what Barb and others have
    said. You may wake up today and want to stuff your head in your turkey
    for the goings-on of yesterday. Maybe you will just continue on, as
    you seem to want to do after supposedly quitting the fray. It did seem
    like you were totally stressed-out and having an episode. I think that
    Dams got it right early in this very long string of things. Even from
    other posts it seems like you demand a lot of attention and I'm sorry
    to be giving you some now.

    Sheldon gave me a lot of guff when he thought I was a newbie (I wasn't:
    he was absent when I first came on here). I don't have the thickest
    skin but got used to him and understood what teasing is, having two
    older brothers. No, I do not condone insults or degredation. But it
    is, after all, sticks and stones.

    Through emails with "Shelly" I found what a kind and thoughtful person
    he is, besides all the [censored] he writes here. So, I'm ready for your kf,
    not that I will be able to post here often due to aol, google and mac
    flukes. I'm not allied with anyone nor am anyone's stooge: just my
    personal experience.

    Tomorrow we will scatter the ashes of one of my best friends from high
    school.
    He died 2 years ago of AIDS and we'd been out of touch for years. His
    sister got in touch with me and hadn't realized how close Craig and I
    had been. She sent him here on one of his last trips. So my husband
    and I will try to sing "Saturday In The Park" by Chicago (it was "our"
    song although we were just buddies), do that "sweet prince" part from
    Hamlet and give him a toast. Maybe some balloons up into the air. There
    is more to life than typing on here although you say you have a life.
    Sweat the big stuff.

    I served some dried (soaked) morels and button mushrooms in a sauce
    with cream, garlic, white wine and lots of butter on noodles. Oh, man
    was it good! I learned that it was better to soak these morels
    overnight, as they were gritty the first time I soaked them for just an
    hour or so. Oh, and parm reg on top, too.

    grismalkin

  4. Karen said:

    I served some dried (soaked) morels and button mushrooms in a sauce
    with cream, garlic, white wine and lots of butter on noodles. Oh, man
    was it good! I learned that it was better to soak these morels
    overnight, as they were gritty the first time I soaked them for just an
    hour or so. Oh, and parm reg on top, too.

    About a year and a half ago, my girlfriend asked me to acquaint her with the
    different types of mushrooms.

    The first thing I made along those lines were portobello mushrooms brushed
    with Italian salad dressing and grilled. (They accompanied a grilled steak
    and corn on the cob.)

    In late spring of this year, I made a mushroom consommé and loaded it with
    enoki mushrooms. Continuing the enoki theme, I browned both sides of an
    enoki bunch in canola oil, putting it on a plate with a pool of sesame oil
    on one side and a pool of dark soy on the other.

    Last week I cooked a bunch of chanterelles in butter until they started to
    brown, then I lowered the heat, added heavy cream and thyme, and cooked
    until the cream started to reduce. I served them on honey wheat English
    muffins as part of breakfast. (Of course, I *could* have made them more
    elaborate, but I wanted her to focus on the mushrooms.)

    I think maybe the next "lesson" will be shiitake mushrooms brushed with a
    mixture of sake, mirin, and soy sauce, then skewered and grilled. But that
    probably won't happen for a while.

    I haven't seen fresh morels or porcini, and I'm not quite ready to settle
    for dried: There's no hurry about any of this, I just seize the
    opportunities whenever they arise.

    Bob

  5. Bob said:

    I haven't seen fresh morels or porcini, and I'm not quite ready to
    settle
    for dried: There's no hurry about any of this, I just seize the
    opportunities whenever they arise.

    Bob

    I grew up with fresh morels: my dad is a morel hound and can spot them
    anywhere.
    I went mushrooming with him many times and he saw what was invisible to
    me. He can find them near a suburban baseball field. Must be that
    Lithuanian thing. We also had other fresh mushrooms but they were
    called shaggy manes, pinkies, etc. and I don't know their biological
    names.

    I liked the morels best of all, just fried in butter. Better than a
    steak.

    Since I haven't had a fresh morel in years the dried ones will suffice.
    They can go for $12 or so an ounce but they puff up after soaking. Dad
    has dried them before, too. Sometimes he froze other varieties but
    they often seemed slimy to me as a kid. Actually, I think some of those
    other dried varieties tasted better than the frozen ones.

    I will have to become more well-versed on what's available in the
    stores now, as I haven't really cooked with porcinis, etc. I will just
    have to try more different varieties.

    grismalkin

  6. Hate to reply to myself but Mr. Wheeler is a real mushroom expert here.

    grismalkin

  7. Bob Terwilliger said:
    Karen said:

    I served some dried (soaked) morels and button mushrooms in a sauce
    with cream, garlic, white wine and lots of butter on noodles. Oh, man
    was it good! I learned that it was better to soak these morels
    overnight, as they were gritty the first time I soaked them for just
    an hour or so. Oh, and parm reg on top, too.

    About a year and a half ago, my girlfriend asked me to acquaint her
    with the different types of mushrooms.

    The first thing I made along those lines were portobello mushrooms
    brushed with Italian salad dressing and grilled. (They accompanied a
    grilled steak and corn on the cob.)

    In late spring of this year, I made a mushroom consommé and loaded it
    with enoki mushrooms. Continuing the enoki theme, I browned both sides
    of an enoki bunch in canola oil, putting it on a plate with a pool of
    sesame oil on one side and a pool of dark soy on the other.

    Last week I cooked a bunch of chanterelles in butter until they
    started to brown, then I lowered the heat, added heavy cream and
    thyme, and cooked until the cream started to reduce. I served them on
    honey wheat English muffins as part of breakfast. (Of course, I
    *could* have made them more elaborate, but I wanted her to focus on
    the mushrooms.)

    I think maybe the next "lesson" will be shiitake mushrooms brushed
    with a mixture of sake, mirin, and soy sauce, then skewered and
    grilled. But that probably won't happen for a while.

    I haven't seen fresh morels or porcini, and I'm not quite ready to
    settle for dried: There's no hurry about any of this, I just seize the
    opportunities whenever they arise.

    Bob

    Bob,

    What a nice intro to mushrooms!

    I hated mushrooms all my life until I ate some magic mushrooms
    (psilocybe cubensis) in Amsterdam years ago. They were TOO much fun! Now
    when I eat mushrooms I secretly wish they were magic!

    All the best,

    Andy
    Just down the road from Kennett Square, PA
    "The Mushroom Capital of the World"

  8. "karen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I grew up with fresh morels: my dad is a morel hound and can spot them
    anywhere.
    I went mushrooming with him many times and he saw what was invisible to
    me. He can find them near a suburban baseball field. Must be that
    Lithuanian thing. We also had other fresh

    So mushrooms are a Lithuanian thing are they? My Dad was Lithuanian and I
    remember he loved mushrooms too.

    --
    Jen

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

    In late spring of this year, I made a mushroom consommé and loaded it with
    enoki mushrooms. Continuing the enoki theme, I browned both sides of an
    enoki bunch in canola oil, putting it on a plate with a pool of sesame oil
    on one side and a pool of dark soy on the other.

    Fresh or canned???
    I see the fresh from time to time but the first enokis I ever tried were
    canned and impossible to chew! :-P

    Are the fresh ones more tender?
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  10. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
    Quoted message said:

    In late spring of this year, I made a mushroom consommé and loaded it
    with
    enoki mushrooms. Continuing the enoki theme, I browned both sides of an
    enoki bunch in canola oil, putting it on a plate with a pool of sesame
    oil
    on one side and a pool of dark soy on the other.

    Fresh or canned???
    I see the fresh from time to time but the first enokis I ever tried were
    canned and impossible to chew! :-P

    Are the fresh ones more tender?

    These were fresh, and just about as tender as button mushrooms. I don't
    recall ever seeing canned enoki mushrooms, but I tend to ignore most canned
    goods.

    I buy enoki mushrooms a few times each year. They're good in clear soups or
    in salads. I'd seen the trick of browning the entire bunch mentioned
    somewhere before; I think it was either a magazine article or a restaurant
    review (but the sesame oil and soy sauce were my idea).

    Bob

  11. Jen said:

    "karen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I grew up with fresh morels: my dad is a morel hound and can spot them
    anywhere.
    I went mushrooming with him many times and he saw what was invisible to
    me. He can find them near a suburban baseball field. Must be that
    Lithuanian thing. We also had other fresh

    So mushrooms are a Lithuanian thing are they? My Dad was Lithuanian and I
    remember he loved mushrooms too.

    I think wild mushroom hunting is pretty common among all of the Slavic
    people. I grew up in an area that was a mix of Poles, Czechs, Yugoslavs,
    and Russians and it was very comnon to see many of them on mushroom
    hunting trips in the nearby wooded areas. I used to go when I was a kid
    but never developed an eye for more than some easily recognizable ones.

  12. "Andy" <q> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Bob Terwilliger said:
    Karen said:

    I served some dried (soaked) morels and button mushrooms in a sauce
    with cream, garlic, white wine and lots of butter on noodles. Oh, man
    was it good! I learned that it was better to soak these morels
    overnight, as they were gritty the first time I soaked them for just
    an hour or so. Oh, and parm reg on top, too.

    About a year and a half ago, my girlfriend asked me to acquaint her
    with the different types of mushrooms.

    The first thing I made along those lines were portobello mushrooms
    brushed with Italian salad dressing and grilled. (They accompanied a
    grilled steak and corn on the cob.)

    In late spring of this year, I made a mushroom consommé and loaded it
    with enoki mushrooms. Continuing the enoki theme, I browned both sides
    of an enoki bunch in canola oil, putting it on a plate with a pool of
    sesame oil on one side and a pool of dark soy on the other.

    Last week I cooked a bunch of chanterelles in butter until they
    started to brown, then I lowered the heat, added heavy cream and
    thyme, and cooked until the cream started to reduce. I served them on
    honey wheat English muffins as part of breakfast. (Of course, I
    *could* have made them more elaborate, but I wanted her to focus on
    the mushrooms.)

    I think maybe the next "lesson" will be shiitake mushrooms brushed
    with a mixture of sake, mirin, and soy sauce, then skewered and
    grilled. But that probably won't happen for a while.

    I haven't seen fresh morels or porcini, and I'm not quite ready to
    settle for dried: There's no hurry about any of this, I just seize the
    opportunities whenever they arise.

    Bob

    Bob,

    What a nice intro to mushrooms!

    I hated mushrooms all my life until I ate some magic mushrooms
    (psilocybe cubensis) in Amsterdam years ago. They were TOO much fun! Now
    when I eat mushrooms I secretly wish they were magic!

    All the best,

    Andy

    In your encounter, were these mushrooms for druggies, or real mushrooms to
    eat?
    Curiously,
    Dee Dee

  13. Bob Terwilliger said:
    Karen said:

    I served some dried (soaked) morels and button mushrooms in a sauce
    with cream, garlic, white wine and lots of butter on noodles. Oh,


    man

    Quoted message said:

    was it good! I learned that it was better to soak these morels
    overnight, as they were gritty the first time I soaked them for just


    an

    Quoted message said:

    hour or so. Oh, and parm reg on top, too.

    About a year and a half ago, my girlfriend asked me to acquaint her
    with the
    different types of mushrooms.

    The first thing I made along those lines were portobello mushrooms
    brushed
    with Italian salad dressing and grilled. (They accompanied a grilled
    steak
    and corn on the cob.)

    I was stunned at the diferance oyster mushrooms make in a pot roast. I
    was used to using button mushrooms and the occasional [censored] but the
    oyster mushrooms and slow cooked beef is delicious.
    ---
    JL

    Quoted message said:

    In late spring of this year, I made a mushroom consommé and loaded it
    with
    enoki mushrooms. Continuing the enoki theme, I browned both sides of
    an
    enoki bunch in canola oil, putting it on a plate with a pool of sesame
    oil
    on one side and a pool of dark soy on the other.

    Last week I cooked a bunch of chanterelles in butter until they
    started to
    brown, then I lowered the heat, added heavy cream and thyme, and
    cooked
    until the cream started to reduce. I served them on honey wheat
    English
    muffins as part of breakfast. (Of course, I *could* have made them
    more
    elaborate, but I wanted her to focus on the mushrooms.)

    I think maybe the next "lesson" will be shiitake mushrooms brushed
    with a
    mixture of sake, mirin, and soy sauce, then skewered and grilled. But
    that
    probably won't happen for a while.

    I haven't seen fresh morels or porcini, and I'm not quite ready to
    settle
    for dried: There's no hurry about any of this, I just seize the
    opportunities whenever they arise.

    Bob

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
    Quoted message said:

    In late spring of this year, I made a mushroom consommé and loaded it
    with
    enoki mushrooms. Continuing the enoki theme, I browned both sides of an
    enoki bunch in canola oil, putting it on a plate with a pool of sesame
    oil
    on one side and a pool of dark soy on the other.

    Fresh or canned???
    I see the fresh from time to time but the first enokis I ever tried were
    canned and impossible to chew! :-P

    Are the fresh ones more tender?

    These were fresh, and just about as tender as button mushrooms. I don't
    recall ever seeing canned enoki mushrooms, but I tend to ignore most canned
    goods.

    Lots of them at the oriental market.
    Gross comment, but they come out the other end unchanged. :-P
    Impossible to chew!

    Quoted message said:


    I buy enoki mushrooms a few times each year. They're good in clear soups or
    in salads. I'd seen the trick of browning the entire bunch mentioned
    somewhere before; I think it was either a magazine article or a restaurant
    review (but the sesame oil and soy sauce were my idea).

    Bob

    Thanks!
    Next time I see Enokis fresh, I will give them a shot.

    Fungi Perfecti has growing kits for Enokis:

    http://www2.mailordercentral.com/fungi/Prodinfo.ASP?NUMBER=KFP105&VARIATI
    ON=&AITEM=1&MITEM=1

    Cheers!

    Quoted message said:



    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dee Randall said:

    "Andy" <q> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Bob Terwilliger said:

    Karen wrote:

    > I served some dried (soaked) morels and button mushrooms in a sauce
    > with cream, garlic, white wine and lots of butter on noodles. Oh, man
    > was it good! I learned that it was better to soak these morels
    > overnight, as they were gritty the first time I soaked them for just
    > an hour or so. Oh, and parm reg on top, too.

    About a year and a half ago, my girlfriend asked me to acquaint her
    with the different types of mushrooms.

    The first thing I made along those lines were portobello mushrooms
    brushed with Italian salad dressing and grilled. (They accompanied a
    grilled steak and corn on the cob.)

    In late spring of this year, I made a mushroom consommé and loaded it
    with enoki mushrooms. Continuing the enoki theme, I browned both sides
    of an enoki bunch in canola oil, putting it on a plate with a pool of
    sesame oil on one side and a pool of dark soy on the other.

    Last week I cooked a bunch of chanterelles in butter until they
    started to brown, then I lowered the heat, added heavy cream and
    thyme, and cooked until the cream started to reduce. I served them on
    honey wheat English muffins as part of breakfast. (Of course, I
    *could* have made them more elaborate, but I wanted her to focus on
    the mushrooms.)

    I think maybe the next "lesson" will be shiitake mushrooms brushed
    with a mixture of sake, mirin, and soy sauce, then skewered and
    grilled. But that probably won't happen for a while.

    I haven't seen fresh morels or porcini, and I'm not quite ready to
    settle for dried: There's no hurry about any of this, I just seize the
    opportunities whenever they arise.

    Bob

    Bob,

    What a nice intro to mushrooms!

    I hated mushrooms all my life until I ate some magic mushrooms
    (psilocybe cubensis) in Amsterdam years ago. They were TOO much fun! Now
    when I eat mushrooms I secretly wish they were magic!

    All the best,

    Andy

    In your encounter, were these mushrooms for druggies, or real mushrooms to
    eat?
    Curiously,
    Dee Dee

    I presume you have never had the chance to try Psilocybin
    (hallucinogenic) mushrooms...

    They are Illegal, hence, hard to find unless you wish to gather your
    own. Risky, as there is a deadly one that often grows with them. :-(

    There are tons of references on google for growing your own from spore
    culture. Oddly enough, it's legal to buy the spores for "study
    collection".

    It is not, however, legal to cultivate them.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Joseph Littleshoes said:

    I was stunned at the diferance oyster mushrooms make in a pot roast. I
    was used to using button mushrooms and the occasional [censored] but the
    oyster mushrooms and slow cooked beef is delicious.
    ---
    JL

    Fresh oyster mushrooms cooked _any_ way are delicious! :-)
    I like to sautee' them in butter and olive oil.

    Those, too, are easy to grow and fungi perfecti sells grow kits.
    As soon as I clear out the store room closet, I intend to dedicate 1/2
    of it to a spot for growing mushrooms! It's too hot outside.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  17. Dee Randall said:

    In your encounter, were these mushrooms for druggies, or real
    mushrooms to eat?
    Curiously,
    Dee Dee

    Dee Dee,

    They were real mushroom to eat, of course they had a most outstanding
    side effect!

    Andy

  18. Andy said:
    Dee Randall said:

    In your encounter, were these mushrooms for druggies, or real
    mushrooms to eat?
    Curiously,
    Dee Dee

    Dee Dee,

    They were real mushroom to eat, of course they had a most outstanding
    side effect!

    Andy

    Really 😉 Our m&p sells only the button mushrooms but I can get fancier
    ones in town. While they are really good I haven't noticed any side
    effects. Am I getting ripped off here?

  19. ~patches~ said:

    Really 😉 Our m&p sells only the button mushrooms but I can get


    fancier

    Quoted message said:

    ones in town. While they are really good I haven't noticed any side
    effects. Am I getting ripped off here?

    ~patches~

    For heaven's sake... you're joking, right???

    Andy

  20. Andy said:
    ~patches~ said:

    Really 😉 Our m&p sells only the button mushrooms but I can get

    fancier

    Quoted message said:

    ones in town. While they are really good I haven't noticed any side
    effects. Am I getting ripped off here?

    ~patches~

    For heaven's sake... you're joking, right???

    Andy


    Guess you missed the 😉 ? I'm up early this morning because I just
    can't sleep so have already started the kitchen clean-up & ran a load of
    dishes, had a toasted tomato sandwich, and [censored] around on the
    computer. What are you doing up so early?

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