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  1. Tom Sherman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Edward Dolan wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    No, here is the complete text of his original post
    having to do with his instruction. He uses the word test
    twice in the first line of his sentence.

    USE an F'ing test group to test test posts,

    The first "test" is an adjective describing "group", the
    second "test" is a verb, and the third "test" is an
    adjective describing "posts". So where is the problem?

    (The confusion is over the "test" repeated, not the
    first "test".)

    The problem is that the third "test", the second adjective,
    is not clearly an adjective and that overall it is not an
    elegant way of saying it. In other words, it is easily not
    understood. Since it is not easily understood, it cannot be
    correct. The purpose of language is to communicate, not to
    make a muddle that only someone like you could possibly
    understand. If I have to puzzle over a word, then it is ipso
    facto wrong.

    Correct usage is always determined by what superior minds
    (aristocrats like me) think and use, not what dummkopfs like
    you and this "bil" character (both non-aristocrats for sure)
    think and use.

    --
    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  2. Edward Dolan said:

    ... That is a scenario designed to drive any sane man
    insane. And as numerous associates of mine will tell you,
    I do not have far to go in that direction.

    Mr. Dolan,

    No need for your associates to tell us - your political
    content Usenet postings are all the evidence even a
    simpleton would need.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side)

  3. Edward Dolan said:

    ... No, you left off the F'ing word which said it all. You
    are the liar and the scoundrel for not including your
    entire post....

    "bil's" original post on this thread [1] used the work
    "F'ing" to describe "test group" and not "Mr. Dolan", as
    anyone who can comprehend the written English language
    should be able to see. Mr. Dolan is incorrect in his
    accusation of "bil" describing him (Mr. Dolan) with the
    adjective "F'ing".

    [1] "Hey Doofus,

    USE an F'ing test group to test test posts,

    alt.alt.test

    Cretin...

    Our Village Idiot diarrhetorically spewed:

    Quoted message said:

    My Google is all messed up yet once again. All I get is
    Internal Server Error message. I am now trying to send
    this via my Outlook Express newsreader. I am beginning to
    see why most of you are using


    newsreaders. If

    Quoted message said:

    this doesn't work, I will maybe try Forte Agent."

    --
    Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side)

  4. Edward Dolan said:

    ... You are editing me too severely....

    I have simply been pruning irrelevant material.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side)

  5. The following emanated from the computer of Edward Dolan:

    Quoted message said:

    ... If I have to puzzle over a word, then it is ipso
    facto wrong.

    Correct usage is always determined by what superior minds
    (aristocrats like me) think and use, not what dummkopfs
    like you and this "bil" character (both non-aristocrats
    for sure) think and use.

    Move aside Noah Webster, Ed Dolan is here!

    --
    Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side)

  6. On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 07:56:02 -0600, Tom Sherman
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    I have simply been pruning irrelevant material.

    My killfile does that for me ;-)

    --
    Guy
    ===
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after
    posting. chapmancentral.co.ukchapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
    Washington University

  7. Tom Sherman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    ... No, you left off the F'ing word which said it all.
    You are the liar and the scoundrel for not including
    your entire post....

    "bil's" original post on this thread [1] used the work
    "F'ing" to describe "test group" and not "Mr. Dolan", as
    anyone who can comprehend the written English language
    should be able to see. Mr. Dolan is incorrect in his
    accusation of "bil" describing him (Mr. Dolan) with the
    adjective "F'ing".

    [1] "Hey Doofus,

    USE an F'ing test group to test test posts,

    alt.alt.test

    Cretin...

    Our Village Idiot diarrhetorically spewed:


    [...]

    Unfortunately for you and this "bil" character, I can add 2
    + 2 and get 4. He knew what he meant, you knew what he meant
    and, most importantly of all, I knew what he meant. When you
    start tossing the F word around and put it with all the
    other insults, then everyone in the world knows what is
    meant. Get real and stop wasting my time.

    --
    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  8. Tom Sherman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    ... You are editing me too severely....

    I have simply been pruning irrelevant material.

    If it is all that irrelevant, maybe you could just control
    yourself and shut the hell up. My advice is to wait for
    relevant material to appear on your computer screen and
    then respond.

    Your one sentence comments are what are truly irrelevant and
    deserve only expletives on my part. Since that is all they
    deserve, that is all you will get from now on.

    --
    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  9. Tom Sherman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    The following emanated from the computer of Edward Dolan:

    Quoted message said:

    ... If I have to puzzle over a word, then it is ipso
    facto wrong.

    Correct usage is always determined by what superior
    minds (aristocrats like me) think and use, not what
    dummkopfs like you and this "bil" character (both non-
    aristocrats for sure) think and use.

    Move aside Noah Webster, Ed Dolan is here!

    You don't think proper usage is dependent on what idiots
    like this "bil" character use, do you? No, it is poets and
    other literary types (writers who get published) that
    determine what words get put into dictionaries. Of course
    there are the slang dictionaries and other trash
    dictionaries for your types. But it is enough for most of us
    if we ever learn to use what words are in the dictionaries
    without attempting to create our own words.

    Some engineers can be aristocrats, but most are lumpen
    proletariat like you.

    --
    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  10. "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    When I look over my own posts, I see nothing but
    perfection except for the occasional typo. Most here do
    not know how to edit. Since they do not know how to do it
    properly, they should not do it at all. They should
    include the complete previous post that they are
    responding to and be done with it.

    Who's to say they don't know how to edit? You! Get a life!

    Ed, if they don't know how to edit I DON'T want them to
    include the complete previous post. Why? Because I know how
    to use a newsreader, and I would prefer they not waste my
    bandwidth. I can keep track of the development of the
    current thread because I have an attention span. You,
    however, are like a child and need to have everything
    explained to you over and over and over and over and over
    and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, if you are teaching in the elementary grades,
    then you do not have students, you have pupils who need to
    be instructed. Studentship only kicks in for most young
    people if and when they go off to college and become
    responsible for their own learning.

    A little anal here, aren't we Ed? Besides, that's just
    your opinion.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You can't even function on Goggle!!! Of course, in your
    denial you will tell us that it's your computer. Sorry,
    I use Goggle enough in my job


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know that it's the person running the computer that's
    the problem.


    Again,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    from a previous post, in our Elementary Lab we have a
    poster that says,


    "The

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Trouble With Computers Is They Do Exactly What You Tell
    Them To Do!" My elementary students are apparently more
    educated than you. Didn't you


    learn

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    anything when you were the prison librarian?

    You can't even function on Goggle!!! Of course, in your
    denial you will tell us that it's your computer. Sorry, I
    use Goggle enough in my job to know that it's the person
    running the computer that's the problem. Again, from a
    previous post, in our Elementary Lab we have a poster that
    says, "The Trouble With Computers Is They Do Exactly What
    You Tell Them To Do!" My elementary students are
    apparently more educated than you. Didn't you learn
    anything when you were the prison librarian?

    You posted my paragraph twice. Learn to edit!

    Quoted message said:

    My Google wasn't posting properly......

    Quoted message said:

    I do all my posting via Google and as long as it works I
    do not see why anyone would want a newsreader. But maybe I
    am missing something here. If my Google keeps screwing
    with me, I will have to resort to a newsreader.

    I'm certainly missing something here. One second you write,
    "wasn't posting properly," the next you write, "as long as
    it works." Does your Google work properly or doesn't it?
    Make up you mind! At least edit your own logic!

    I don't see "perfection" in your writing. You need to
    learn to write if you expect others to buy the
    "perfection" comcept..

    By the way Ed, I'm not so arrogant as to think I'm
    perfect. I'm not!

    Quoted message said:

    So far, OE and Forte Agent appear to be good. The main
    thing I like about them is that they are free. Why would
    any home user pay for a newsreader? Maybe you could answer
    that question since you have all the clues and I don't.

    I've never paid for a newsreader. OE works for me.
    However, with OE you better make sure your virus
    protection is up to date.

    Quoted message said:

    Ed Dolan - Clueless in Minnesota

    Yes Ed, you still don't have a clue.

    Perry B - Minnesota

  11. "Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    ... That is a scenario designed to drive any sane man
    insane. And as numerous associates of mine will tell
    you, I do not have far to go in that direction.

    Mr. Dolan,

    No need for your associates to tell us - your political
    content Usenet postings are all the evidence even a
    simpleton would need.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side)

    Amen!

    Perry B - Minnesota

  12. Ed,

    Not only do you need to learn how to write, but you also
    need to learn how to read!

    Perry B - Minnesota

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Tom Sherman <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    The following emanated from the computer of Edward
    Dolan:

    Quoted message said:

    ... If I have to puzzle over a word, then it is ipso
    facto wrong.

    Correct usage is always determined by what superior
    minds (aristocrats like me) think and use, not what
    dummkopfs like you and this "bil" character (both non-
    aristocrats for sure) think and use.

    Move aside Noah Webster, Ed Dolan is here!

    You don't think proper usage is dependent on what idiots
    like this "bil" character use, do you? No, it is poets and
    other literary types (writers who get published) that
    determine what words get put into dictionaries. Of course
    there are the slang dictionaries and other trash
    dictionaries for your types. But it is enough for most of
    us if we ever learn to use what words are in the
    dictionaries without attempting to create our own words.

    Some engineers can be aristocrats, but most are lumpen
    proletariat like you.

    --
    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  13. "Perry Butler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    No need for your associates to tell us - your political
    content Usenet postings are all the evidence even a
    simpleton would need.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side)


    Amen!

    Hey, knock it off. No praying allowed on Usenet.

  14. "Perry Butler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    When I look over my own posts, I see nothing but
    perfection except for the occasional typo. Most here do
    not know how to edit. Since they do not know how to do it
    properly, they should not do it at all. They should
    include the complete previous post that they are
    responding to and be done with it.

    Who's to say they don't know how to edit? You! Get a life!

    I have more education than the average slob here on ARBR.
    But I have also spent most of my life reading books. So that
    qualifies me to have something to say about the FORM of the
    posts and how they are edited. None of this is rocket
    science, but still it amazes me that so many don't seem to
    have a clue about how to edit. It is very important to be
    fair to your respondent. It basically comes down to respect
    for the other person. We should always treat others the way
    we would like to be treated.

    Quoted message said:

    Ed, if they don't know how to edit I DON'T want them to
    include the complete previous post. Why? Because I know
    how to use a newsreader, and I would prefer they not
    waste my bandwidth. I can keep track of the development
    of the current thread because I have an attention span.
    You, however, are like a child and need to have
    everything explained to you over and over and over and
    over and over and over and over and over and over and
    over and over again.

    No, you are quite mistaken about all of this. I am fed up
    with these idiots who do not know how to edit. Since they
    do not know how to edit, it is better to include the entire
    message to which they are responding. You may be a teacher,
    but you are no scholar. Freewheeling (Scott) is totally
    correct of course. Sherman is guilty of selective editing
    to make points which is a cardinal sin in my book. You do
    not do that, but still it is better to include too much
    than too little. Don't worry about the bandwidth. It is
    there to be used.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    By the way, if you are teaching in the elementary
    grades, then you do not have students, you have pupils
    who need to be instructed. Studentship only kicks in for
    most young people if and when they go off to college and
    become responsible for their own learning.

    A little anal here, aren't we Ed? Besides, that's just
    your opinion.

    Pupils get education pounded into them. That is the only
    way. It is only as you get older that you desire to learn
    things on your own. The professors are there to guide you.
    Any learning that takes place is on the students. You have
    pupils, not students. Ideally, only students would exist
    in college. Unfortunately, that is not always the case
    even there.

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    You posted my paragraph twice. Learn to edit!

    I occasionally compose my messages on my Windows Notepad.
    Then when I transfer it to the Google page I have to be
    careful as the markings are not the same. But it is better
    to duplicate than to omit.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My Google wasn't posting properly......

    Quoted message said:

    I do all my posting via Google and as long as it works I
    do not see why anyone would want a newsreader. But maybe
    I am missing something here. If my Google keeps screwing
    with me, I will have to resort to a newsreader.

    I'm certainly missing something here. One second you
    write, "wasn't posting properly," the next you write,
    "as long as it works." Does your Google work properly
    or doesn't it? Make up you mind! At least edit your
    own logic!

    Good Grief! Don't be such an idiot. Most of the time my
    Google posts just fine. Then all of a sudden it doesn't
    post. Who the hell knows what is going on. I think it is
    Google. All I know for sure is that I am not doing anything
    that would cause it not to post.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't see "perfection" in your writing. You need to
    learn to write if you expect others to buy the
    "perfection" comcept..

    Everyone understands me perfectly because I know how to
    write, unlike some idiots on this newsgroup. Notice that I
    write out everything and I do not take shortcuts. And I do
    not assume that others are privy to knowldege that is not
    known generally. I hate these morons who assume that you
    know something which any intelligent person would not
    necessarily know. That is why this "bil" character pisses
    me off. Screw him and his Internet language. Speak English
    or get lost!

    Quoted message said:

    By the way Ed, I'm not so arrogant as to think I'm
    perfect. I'm not!

    My posts are far superior to the run of the mill posts that
    appear on ARBR. I am too old now for false modesty. When I
    read a post on ARBR I note both form and content. They are
    equally important. As a teacher, you should appreciate that.
    Sherman is very good about form, but he is not so good about
    the editing. He is very selective and he is not fair. I am
    getting more and more [censored] at him about this.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So far, OE and Forte Agent appear to be good. The main
    thing I like about them is that they are free. Why would
    any home user pay for a newsreader? Maybe you could
    answer that question since you have all the clues and I
    don't.

    I've never paid for a newsreader. OE works for me.
    However, with OE you better make sure your virus
    protection is up to date.

    Yes, you are right about that. I have the Win Cleaner Quick
    Heal and it seems to catch everything. Also, my ISP
    (PrairieWave) does a lot of filtering too. Before I got the
    anti-virus program my computer was down all the time from
    virus infections. I like to travel all over the world on the
    Internet, but at one point I was going to shuck it all
    because of the virus infections. Lately I have not been
    having any problems.

    --
    Ed Dolan - Clueless in Minnesota

  15. "Perry Butler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    ... That is a scenario designed to drive any sane man
    insane. And as numerous associates of mine will tell
    you, I do not have far to go in that direction.

    Mr. Dolan,

    No need for your associates to tell us - your political
    content Usenet postings are all the evidence even a
    simpleton would need.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side)

    Amen!

    Perry B - Minnesota

    Yes, I throw these freebees in there so Sherman can pretend
    to be a wit. I know that he needs constant bolstering. His
    ego is not as solid as mine. My ego is so solid that I can
    poke fun at myself all day long. That is something that I
    suspect you and Sherman can never do. Too bad. You are
    missing half the fun of life.

    --
    Ed Dolan - Going Insane in Minnesota

  16. "Perry Butler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Ed,

    Not only do you need to learn how to write, but you also
    need to learn how to read!

    Perry B - Minnesota

    And you need to put your brain into gear before you post.
    You are making absolutely no sense at all.

    --
    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  17. Edward Dolan said:

    blah blah...

    The Christian Taliban

    By Stephen Pizzo, AlterNet March 28, 2004

    During the Taliban rule of Afghanistan the world got a good
    look at what happens when religious zealots gain control of
    a government. Television images of women being beaten forced
    to wear burkas and banned from schools and the workplace
    helped build strong public support for the President's
    decision to invade Afghanistan in the wake of 9/11.

    But even as President George W. Bush denounced the brutal
    Islamic fundamentalist regime in Kabul, he was quietly
    laying the foundations for his own fundamentalist regime at
    home. For the first time far right Christian fundamentalists
    had one of their own in the White House and the opportunity
    to begin rolling back decades of health and family planning
    programs they saw as un-Christian, if not downright sinful.

    Since 2001 dozens of far-right Christian fundamentalists
    have been quietly installed in key positions within the
    Department of Health and Human Services, the Federal Drug
    Administration and on commissions and advisory committees
    where they have made serious progress. Three years

    health agendas in the Western world.

    It began immediately. One of George W. Bush's first acts as
    president was to issue an executive memorandum reinstating
    a global abortion "gag rule." The rule was first
    implemented under Ronald Reagan but revoked during the two
    Clinton administrations. The rule prohibited federally
    funded family planning providers from even discussing
    abortion with their clients.

    Bush's order reflected the views of those at farthest
    reaches of the Christian right, zealots who saw any means by
    which women controlled reproduction as unbiblical:

    "I would like to outlaw contraception...contraception is
    disgusting - people using each other for pleasure." -Joseph
    Scheidler, Pro-Life Action League

    "I don't think Christians should use birth control. You
    consummate your marriage as often as you like - and if
    you have babies, you have babies." Randall Terry,
    Operation Rescue

    Over the next twelve months the administration moved quickly
    to install similarly-minded Christian fundamentalists to
    positions of authority and

    Dr. Alma Golden: appointed Deputy Assistant Secretary of
    Population Affairs. A Texas pediatrician, she is a
    longtime proponent of abstinence as the only acceptable
    means of birth control. Dr. Golden declared that
    henceforth the department would stress "abstinence-only"
    as the solution to unwanted pregnancies, not just for
    teens, but unmarried adults as well.

    Tom Coburn: Former Republican congressman and anti-condom
    crusader. Appointed co-chair of the Presidential Advisory
    Council on HIV and AIDS. While in congress Coburn tried to
    force condom manufacturers to label

    infections. "I will challenge the national focus on condom
    use to prevent the spread of HIV," Coburn said upon his
    appointment.

    Ds. Joseph McIlhaney, Jr.: Appointed to Coburn on the HIV
    and AIDS advisory council. McIlhaney has a long and well-
    documented history of disseminating misleading data on
    condom failure rates. He was appointed in spite of the
    fact that in 1995 Governor George W. Bush's own Texas
    Commissioner of Health openly denounced McIhaney's anti-
    condom propaganda and his professional credibility.

    Dt. W. David Hager: Appointed to the FDA's Reproductive
    Health Drugs Advisory Committee. Dr. Hager served as
    spokesperson for the Christian Medical Association. He
    authored the book, As Jesus Cared for Women: Restoring
    Women Then and Now, and co-authored a book that
    recommended scripture readings and prayers to relieve
    the symptoms of PMS. Dr. Hager opposes prescribing
    contraceptives to unmarried women and spearheaded a
    petition drive by the Christian Medical Association to
    revoke the FDA's approval of mifepristone, the so-called
    "morning after pill."

    Du. Joseph B. Stanford: Also appointed to the Reproductive
    Health Drugs Advisory Committee. Dr. Stanford is on
    record for his belief that the only acceptable form of
    contraception, besides abstinence, is the all-natural
    "rhythm method." Dr. Stanford refuses to prescribe
    contraceptives, stating that "(modern) medicine is
    permeated with

    Christian values of the sanctity of life, marriage, and
    procreation, attitudes that both reflect and perpetuate the
    recreational approach to

    Susan A. Crockett: The third Christian fundamentalist
    appointed to the same FDA committee. Crockett served as a
    board member of the American Association of Pro-life
    Obstetricians and Gynecologists. She co-authored, "Using
    Hormone Contraceptives is a Decision Involving Science,
    Scripture, and Conscience" in the book, The Reproductive

    Technologies and the Family. The book was edited by
    Dr. Hager.

    When the hot issue of stem-cell research came up, President
    Bush dismissed two members of his Council on Bioethics who
    had each strongly supported the use of embryonic stem cells
    in research. They were replaced by three new members who, as
    the pro-life Family Research Council reported, "fall more in
    line with the President's pro-life views."

    Information became a prime target of the Christian Taliban.
    President Bush says he respects "good science," when making
    public policy. But, the crux of the matter apparently hinges
    on the definition of "good," especially when it comes to family-
    planning issues. When good science clashes with Biblical
    fundamentalist beliefs in this administration, science loses
    every time.

    Early in 2001 Bush's Christian Taliban began scrubbing
    federal information sources of offending materials. The
    censorship campaign prompted Representative Henry Waxman (D-
    CA) to send a letter to o HHS Secretary Thompson demanding
    an explanation for the removal of information from HHS Web
    of scientific findings by the National Cancer Institute
    that, contrary to anti-choice propaganda, abortions do not
    increase the risk of breast cancer. Thompson never responded
    but the "cleansing" continued.

    -Scientific data on condom use, long available on government
    health Web sites, was removed and replaced by sermons on
    abstinence and alarmist propaganda that exaggerated the
    risks of condom use.

    -The phrase "reproductive health" was expunged and replaced
    with the vague terms "related clinical preventive health
    services" and "related preventive health services."

    -Links to non-governmental family planning resources
    were deleted.

    -Web sites at the Centers of Disease Control and National
    Institute of Health were cleared of scientific studies and
    materials relating to abortion and condom use.

    -At the CDC results from a peer-reviewed study showing
    that education

    younger age, were deleted from the Web site.

    -The NIH's Web site was cleaned of FAQ's on condom
    effectiveness and a

    Good science was disappearing from government publications
    and Web sites at such a pace that the Union of Concerned
    Scientists issued a report in early 2004 documenting and
    condemning the Bush administration.

    There is significant evidence that the scope and scale of
    the manipulation, suppression and misrepresentation of
    science by the Bush administration is unprecedented... There
    is a well-established pattern of suppression and distortion
    of scientific findings by high-ranking Bush administration
    political appointees across numerous federal agencies. These
    actions have consequences for human health, public safety,
    and community well-being." (Union of Concerned Scientists,
    report, Scientific Integrity in Policymaking. 2004.)

    So, even as the Bush administration denounced and battled
    Islamic religious zealotry abroad it was and is nurturing a
    fundamentalist Christian version here at home, much to the
    delight of radical right-wing Christians.

    "Contrary to popular opinion, the Bible is not neutral about
    what kind of government we should have," states Dr. Mark
    Allen Ludwig, author of True Christian Government.

    "God gave governments responsibility only for infrastructure
    and defense," according to an article by Rev. Bob Enyart,
    pastor of Denver Bible Church. "If government limited itself
    to its two just functions, thereby getting out of education,
    health care, farming, etc., it could better defend America.
    ... Christians who carefully study the Bible are best
    qualified to teach the world how it should be governed."

    One of the oldest and best-established forces in the
    Christian Taliban attack on secular government has been the
    Christian Coalition. Recently the group threw its full
    weight behind the President's push for a constitutional
    amendment banning gay marriage. The Christian Coalition has
    been conducting a "Let's Take America Back" national
    petition drive over the last several months, which now also
    includes support for the so-called Federal Marriage
    Amendment. The Christian Coalition mission statement states:

    We are driven by the belief that people of faith have a
    right and a responsibility to be involved in the world
    around them. That involvement includes community, social and
    political action. Whether on a stump, in print, over the
    airways the Christian Coalition is dedicated to equipping
    and educating God's people with the resources and
    information to battle against anti-family legislation.

    What is remarkable is that this was accomplished without
    significant public outcry. The reason is that America's
    Christian Taliban are more public relations savvy than their
    Islamic counterparts. No American women are being forced to
    cover up, beaten for appearing in public wearing make up, or
    barred from the workplace. The changes being made are more
    subtle and less visibly shocking. They are incremental,
    technical, administrative - but far-reaching.

    They have also gotten away with it because we Americans like
    to consider ourselves tolerant and respectful of religious
    beliefs. Openly criticizing someone's religious beliefs
    ranks right up there with racism and bigotry - a fact the
    Christian Right has used to stifle opposition to its agenda.

    Mainstream Christians share secularists' concern over
    workings of Bush's Christian Taliban. Speaking at the
    National Press Club last year, Religious Coalition for
    Reproductive Choice President Rev. Carlton W. Veazey
    condemned the "back-door attempts by the Bush Administration
    to radically alter policies and practices concerning
    abortion, family

    So, it may be time admit that our tolerance of Christian
    fundamentalists is turning us into a nation of chumps. By
    claiming it is they who are being persecuted, the Christian
    Taliban have cowed mainstream Christians and secularists
    into silence, even as they impose their own faith-based
    governance upon us.

    We need to reconnect with a fundamental ingredient of
    America's strength: the separation of church and state. That
    wall of separation has for over two centuries spared
    Americans ftom the kind of religious strife witnessed in
    Bosnia, the Middle East, Northern Ireland and Afghanistan.

    Mixing religious dogma and public policy always creates an
    explosive compound - and it always blows

  18. She insisted...

    politicalhumor.about.comblbushw
    girls1.htm

    Misygonistic rant with whine:

    Quoted message said:

    I am not interested in your [censored] babes. Don't you know
    they are all infected and that you can get terrible
    diseases from them, some of which can even kill you as
    dead as a mackerel. By the way, don't you capitalize the
    days of the week? How about the months of the year? I
    think I learned all of that in Kindergarten, a grade that
    many computer nerds seemed to have missed in their
    education.

    And that a certain "librarian",

    if that's what he really is,

    failed to progress from.

    Let me know if you need more time to read my
    replies. I can always add more blank lines ... ;-)

  19. "bil" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:KqHbc.22840$Q45.8977@fed1read02...

    Quoted message said:

    The Christian Taliban

    By Stephen Pizzo, AlterNet March 28, 2004

    bil the troll said:

    blah blah blah squared to the eighth
    power..................

    Nice try bil, but way the hell too much [censored] for anyone in
    their right mind to read.

    Limit yourself to a paragraph or two next time. You'll get
    much better results.

    Maybe Ed will take the time to read your stuff and reply,
    but I doubt it.

  20. "skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "bil" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:KqHbc.22840$Q45.8977@fed1read02...

    Quoted message said:

    The Christian Taliban

    By Stephen Pizzo, AlterNet March 28, 2004

    bil the troll said:

    blah blah blah squared to the eighth
    power..................

    Nice try bil, but way the hell too much [censored] for anyone in
    their right


    mind

    Quoted message said:

    to read.

    Limit yourself to a paragraph or two next time. You'll get
    much better results.

    Maybe Ed will take the time to read your stuff and reply,
    but I doubt it.

    Boy, have you ever got that right skip! I am very much
    opposed to anyone on this newsgroup submitting printed
    material for our perusal. As a former librarian I could
    flood this forum with printed material from other sources,
    but it would never even occur to me to do such a thing. We
    should all be more or less just talking off the top of our
    heads and be giving our own digested opinions of things. If
    bil has something he thinks others might want to read, he
    should just submit the link along with his own introduction
    to the material. I will almost never go to the link either
    though. Therefore, it is always best to say in a few
    paragraphs in your own words what ever it is that is on your
    mind. That way the chances are that I will not only read it
    but I may be moved to honor the writer with a reply. 😉

    Perhaps a short sentence or two from an outside source is
    OK, but any thing more than that shows disrespect and is
    discourteous to everyone. The fact is that in the age of the
    Internet we could all be doing that sort of thing that this
    character bil does, but that would be the ruination of the
    newsgroup for sure. I am always just giving my own opinions
    on subjects and that is all I ever want to hear from others
    on this newsgroup also. Sherman has got it about right as he
    will quote other sources for purposes of supplying some
    outside information but he does not over do it. I do not do
    it at all and I will never read any long winded [censored] even if
    it were submitted by God Himself unless I have sought it out
    on my own.

    --
    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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