Test riding the Dual Sport 129

Martin W. Smith said:

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Wow! That is real engineering. I was so impressed I bought
one before I even rode it. Then the shop owner gave one to
test ride. Amazing. It combines the ruggedness of a
mountain bike with the speed of a road bike. There won't be
many road bikes passing me from now on.

It's a bit pricey here in Norway, about $2000, but I bet you
can get it a lot cheaper in the US.

martin

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Wow! That is real engineering. I was so impressed I bought
one before I even rode it. Then the shop owner gave one to
test ride. Amazing. It combines the ruggedness of a
mountain bike with the speed of a road bike. There won't
be many road bikes passing me from now on.

martin

And the relevance to swimming is.....?

its not relevant to swimming, but is relevant to triathlon,
which i'm sure more than a few posters and lurkers here care
about. even though he didn't label it OT, i'm sure everyone
is smart enough to know that with a subject header like that
it wasn't about swimming.

if you want to maintain this pissing contest with martin how
about you email him and do it there? even though the
relevance was tenuous, it has way more merit than a fatuous
statement like that, or this one for that matter.

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Wow! That is real engineering. I was so impressed I
bought one before I even rode it. Then the shop owner
gave one to test ride. Amazing. It combines the
ruggedness of a mountain bike with the speed of a road
bike. There won't be many road bikes passing me from
now on.

martin

And the relevance to swimming is.....?

When will you learn to stop flooding this newsgroup with
posts that have nothing to do with swimming?

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fisherbikes.comseries.aspOpen ↗
ualsport

Wow! That is real engineering. I was so impressed I bought
one before I even rode it. Then the shop owner gave one to
test ride. Amazing. It combines the ruggedness of a
mountain bike with the speed of a road bike. There won't
be many road bikes passing me from now on.

martin

Duncan Heenan said:

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fisherbikes.comseries.aspOpen ↗
alsport

Wow! That is real engineering. I was so impressed I
bought one before I even rode it. Then the shop owner
gave one to test ride. Amazing. It combines the
ruggedness of a mountain bike with the speed of a road
bike. There won't be many road bikes passing me from
now on.

martin

And the relevance to swimming is.....?

Many swimmers do cross training, either because they need it
for their competitions (triathlon) or because they want to
avoid swimmer's syndrome, and one of the most popular cross
training sports for swimmers is cycling. The Fisher Dual
Sport 129 (or 229, which is cheaper) is a good investment
for those people.

You'd know all this stuff and wouldn't have to ask these
questions if you talked to a coach once in awhile.

martin

Birdy Birdy said:

When will you learn to stop flooding this newsgroup with
posts that have nothing to do with swimming?

My post actually did have a tangential relationship with
swimming, which diablo and I both explained, and which you
ignored. In either case, I don't flood the newsgroup. You're
a poophead.

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fisherbikes.comseries.aspOpen ↗
alsport

Wow! That is real engineering. I was so impressed I
bought one before I even rode it. Then the shop owner
gave one to test ride. Amazing. It combines the
ruggedness of a mountain bike with the speed of a road
bike. There won't be many road bikes passing me from
now on.

martin

Birdy Birdy said:

When will you learn to stop flooding this newsgroup with
posts that have nothing to do with swimming?

Something like this one? Three cheers for meta [censored]

--Mike

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Birdy Birdy said:

When will you learn to stop flooding this newsgroup with
posts that have nothing to do with swimming?

Something like this one? Three cheers for meta [censored]

Funny how you just fell for the same thing yourself. I guess
you are one of Martin's friends, judging from the brightness
of your post.

Sheeeesh...

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Birdy Birdy said:

When will you learn to stop flooding this newsgroup
with posts that have nothing to do with swimming?

Something like this one? Three cheers for meta [censored]

Funny how you just fell for the same thing yourself. I
guess you are one of Martin's friends, judging from the
brightness of your post.

Sheeeesh...

Now you've really [censored] him off.

Birdy Birdy said:

When will you learn to stop flooding this newsgroup with
posts that have nothing to do with swimming?

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fisherbikes.comseries.aspOpen ↗
alsport

Wow! That is real engineering. I was so impressed I
bought one before I even rode it. Then the shop owner
gave one to test ride. Amazing. It combines the
ruggedness of a mountain bike with the speed of a road
bike. There won't be many road bikes passing me from
now on.

martin

I had just started my ride to work this morning, and a guy
on a mountain bike passed me like he meant it. I was in the
middle range at the time. I switched to high and passed him
a few seconds later like he was standing still.

For those who might be considering spending some serious hard-
earned cash on a new mountain bike that you will be using a
lot on the road, the Fisher Dual Sport 129 (or the less
expensive 229) is a very good investment.

martin

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its not relevant to swimming, but is relevant to
triathlon, which i'm sure more than a few posters and
lurkers here care about. even though he didn't label it
OT, i'm sure everyone is smart enough to know that with a
subject header like that it wasn't about swimming.

if you want to maintain this pissing contest with martin
how about you

email

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him and do it there? even though the relevance was
tenuous, it has way

more

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merit than a fatuous statement like that, or this one for
that matter.

Not a fatuous statement, but a question. Thank you for
answering it. I now feel safe to post all O like about
sailing, as that also involves swimming sometimes. Have I
told you about the problem I have in getting a storm jib to
go with my furling foresail......? By the way, why not flame
Martin W Smith, also? It is he who is always the instigator,
though I admit to reacting sometimes..

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fisherbikes.comseries.aspOpen ↗
alsport

Wow! That is real engineering. I was so impressed I
bought one before I even rode it. Then the shop owner
gave one to test ride. Amazing. It combines the
ruggedness of a mountain bike with the speed of a road
bike. There won't be many road bikes passing me from
now on.

martin

And the relevance to swimming is.....?

Duncan Heenan said:

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its not relevant to swimming, but is relevant to
triathlon, which i'm sure more than a few posters and
lurkers here care about. even though he didn't label it
OT, i'm sure everyone is smart enough to know that with a
subject header like that it wasn't about swimming.

if you want to maintain this pissing contest with martin
how about you

email

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him and do it there? even though the relevance was
tenuous, it has way

more

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merit than a fatuous statement like that, or this one for
that matter.

Not a fatuous statement, but a question. Thank you for
answering it. I now feel safe to post all O like about
sailing, as that also involves swimming sometimes. Have I
told you about the problem I have in getting a storm jib to
go with my furling foresail......?

My advice is to ask a good sailing coach.

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By the way, why not flame Martin W Smith, also? It is he
who is always the instigator, though I admit to reacting
sometimes..

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> fisherbikes.comseries.aspOpen ↗
> ualsport
>
> Wow! That is real engineering. I was so impressed I
> bought one before I even rode it. Then the shop owner
> gave one to test ride. Amazing. It combines the
> ruggedness of a mountain bike with the speed of a
> road bike. There won't be many road bikes passing me
> from now on.
>
> martin
>

And the relevance to swimming is.....?

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"Duncan Heenan"

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its not relevant to swimming, but is relevant to
triathlon, which i'm

sure

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more than a few posters and lurkers here care about.
even though he

didn't

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label it OT, i'm sure everyone is smart enough to know
that with a

subject

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header like that it wasn't about swimming.

if you want to maintain this pissing contest with
martin how about you

email

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him and do it there? even though the relevance was
tenuous, it has way

more

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merit than a fatuous statement like that, or this one
for that matter.

Not a fatuous statement, but a question. Thank you for
answering it. I

now

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feel safe to post all O like about sailing, as that also
involves

swimming

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sometimes. Have I told you about the problem I have in
getting a storm

jib

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to go with my furling foresail......?

My advice is to ask a good sailing coach.

I did, but he said that the benefits of cross training were
such that swimmers would be able to help too. By the way, do
you have to cross-dress to cross train?

Duncan Heenan said:

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"Duncan Heenan"

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"diablo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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> its not relevant to swimming, but is relevant to
> triathlon, which i'm

sure

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> more than a few posters and lurkers here care about.
> even though he

didn't

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> label it OT, i'm sure everyone is smart enough to know
> that with a

subject

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> header like that it wasn't about swimming.
>
> if you want to maintain this pissing contest with
> martin how about you
email
> him and do it there? even though the relevance was
> tenuous, it has way
more
> merit than a fatuous statement like that, or this one
> for that matter.

Not a fatuous statement, but a question. Thank you for
answering it. I

now

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feel safe to post all O like about sailing, as that also
involves

swimming

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sometimes. Have I told you about the problem I have in
getting a storm

jib

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to go with my furling foresail......?

My advice is to ask a good sailing coach.

I did, but he said that the benefits of cross training were
such that swimmers would be able to help too.

He meant swimmers who also sail then. I don't, so I can't
help you, but I guess he gave you some good advice.
Although, after I think about it, if I had your problem, I
would be tempted to ring the manufacturor of your furling
foresail for advice, or a few sail makers, but since both of
those are obvious courses of action and you didn't think of
either one,... well, maybe one of the swimmers will know
what to do.

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By the way, do you have to cross-dress to cross train?

If you don't want to look stupid, it's a good idea. And if
you are at all worried about the possibility that the youth
might look at you askance, I strongly recommend it.

martin

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"Duncan Heenan"

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"Duncan Heenan"
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>> its not relevant to swimming, but is relevant to
>> triathlon, which

i'm

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sure

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>> more than a few posters and lurkers here care about.
>> even though he

didn't

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>> label it OT, i'm sure everyone is smart enough to
>> know that with a

subject

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>> header like that it wasn't about swimming.
>>
>> if you want to maintain this pissing contest with
>> martin how about

you

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>email
>> him and do it there? even though the relevance was
>> tenuous, it has

way

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>more
>> merit than a fatuous statement like that, or this
>> one for that

matter.

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>
>Not a fatuous statement, but a question. Thank you for
>answering it. I

now

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>feel safe to post all O like about sailing, as that
>also involves

swimming

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>sometimes. Have I told you about the problem I have in
>getting a storm

jib

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>to go with my furling foresail......?

My advice is to ask a good sailing coach.

I did, but he said that the benefits of cross training
were such that swimmers would be able to help too.

He meant swimmers who also sail then. I don't, so I can't
help you, but I guess he gave you some good advice.
Although, after I think about it, if I had your problem, I
would be tempted to ring the manufacturor of your furling
foresail for advice,

I did, but they only think like sail makers, and
swimmers are so much more flexible in their approach to
sailing matters.

or a few sail

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makers, but since both of those are obvious courses of
action and you didn't think of either one,... well, maybe
one of the swimmers will know what to do.

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By the way, do you have to cross-dress to cross train?

If you don't want to look stupid, it's a good idea. And if
you are at all worried about the possibility that the
youth might look at you askance, I strongly recommend it.

martin

That's interesting. When you cross-dress do you also wear
makeup? Surely the high heels get in the way of the pedals
when you're on the bike don't they? Having never cross-
dressed, I can't imagine how it works, but it sounds as if
you can advise us.

In article <[email hidden]>,
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"Duncan Heenan"

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"Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Duncan Heenan"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"diablo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
> >kc.rr.com...
> >> its not relevant to swimming, but is relevant to
> >> triathlon, which

i'm

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sure
> >> more than a few posters and lurkers here care
> >> about. even though he
didn't
> >> label it OT, i'm sure everyone is smart enough to
> >> know that with a
subject
> >> header like that it wasn't about swimming.
> >>
> >> if you want to maintain this pissing contest with
> >> martin how about

you

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> >email
> >> him and do it there? even though the relevance was
> >> tenuous, it has

way

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> >more
> >> merit than a fatuous statement like that, or this
> >> one for that

matter.

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> >
> >Not a fatuous statement, but a question. Thank you
> >for answering it. I
now
> >feel safe to post all O like about sailing, as that
> >also involves
swimming
> >sometimes. Have I told you about the problem I have
> >in getting a storm
jib
> >to go with my furling foresail......?
>
> My advice is to ask a good sailing coach.

I did, but he said that the benefits of cross training
were such that swimmers would be able to help too.

He meant swimmers who also sail then. I don't, so I
can't help you, but I guess he gave you some good
advice. Although, after I think about it, if I had your
problem, I would be tempted to ring the manufacturor of
your furling foresail for advice,

I did, but they only think like sail makers, and swimmers
are so much more flexible in their approach to sailing
matters.

or a few sail

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makers, but since both of those are obvious courses of
action and you didn't think of either one,... well,
maybe one of the swimmers will know what to do.

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By the way, do you have to cross-dress to cross train?

If you don't want to look stupid, it's a good idea. And
if you are at all worried about the possibility that
the youth might look at you askance, I strongly
recommend it.

martin

That's interesting. When you cross-dress do you also wear
makeup? Surely the high heels get in the way of the pedals
when you're on the bike don't they? Having never cross-
dressed, I can't imagine how it works, but it sounds as if
you can advise us.

I propose that you and Martin meet in Esbjerg, Denmark and
engage in an athletic challenge to include biking, swimming
and sailing... all the while cross-dressed, of course
(specifics and possible handicap points -
e.g, if Martin brings a coach - to be determined between
you.) The loser, for a period of 5 years, *must* respond
to all of the winner's posts with "Wish I'd said that!"
Additionally, the loser's signature file will be altered
to read "Wishing I were [winner's name]."

Just to spice things up, the following incentives also
apply:

If Martin loses:
- He must wear a "I voted for Bush" t-shirt for one
year. If Martin wins:
- Duncan will retain a personal coach.

It's a start, anyway...

- Al

In article <[email hidden]>,

Martin W. Smith said:

For those who might be considering spending some serious
hard-earned cash on a new mountain bike that you will be
using a lot on the road, the Fisher Dual Sport 129 (or the
less expensive 229) is a very good investment.

How much are they paying you to promote this?

--
Karen Lofstrom [email hidden]
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I have a mind like, um, what do you call it, one of
those things that are made of metal and grab animals by
the leg ....

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Martin W. Smith said:

For those who might be considering spending some serious
hard-earned cash on a new mountain bike that you will be
using a lot on the road, the Fisher Dual Sport 129 (or
the less expensive 229) is a very good investment.

How much are they paying you to promote this?

Right, must have been a lucrative deal. I hear ad slots on
rec.sport.swimming are second only to the Super Bowl...

- Al

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Big snip<

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I propose that you and Martin meet in Esbjerg, Denmark and
engage in an athletic challenge to include biking,
swimming and sailing... all the while cross-dressed, of
course (specifics and possible handicap points -
e.g, if Martin brings a coach - to be determined between
you.) The loser, for a period of 5 years, *must* respond
to all of the winner's posts with "Wish I'd said that!"
Additionally, the loser's signature file will be altered
to read "Wishing I were [winner's name]."

Just to spice things up, the following incentives
also apply:

If Martin loses:
- He must wear a "I voted for Bush" t-shirt for one year.
If Martin wins:
- Duncan will retain a personal coach.

It's a start, anyway...

- Al

I like it! Especially if I can chose my own coach (and I
already have her details). However it must be sporting
challenge, not a mere battle of wits as I wouldn't want to
take advantage of an unarmed man.