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  1. On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:27:48 -0000, "Danny Colyer"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    🙂Andrew Sweetman wondered: )> So should I consider my flashing rear LED to be a warning beacon? )
    🙂Does it meet the requirements laid out for a warning beacon in schedule )16 of the regulations:
    🙂url:http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_21.htm#nsch16requi
    🙂rementrelatingobligatoryoptionalwarningbeacon ? ) )i.e. is it visible from all angles (front or
    :rear), is its flashing rate )somewhere between 60-240 flashes/minute and is its colour blue, amber,
    🙂green or yellow?

    Amber OR yellow ! That's pushing it for your average road user !

    What shades of blue or green are acceptable !

    That range is twice as "long" as the allowed range for "flashers"
    --
    Comm again, Mike.

  2. On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:54:06 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    🙂On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:42:28 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew Sweetman"
    🙂<[email hidden]> wrote: ) )>So should I consider my flashing rear LED to be
    :a warning beacon? ) )Well now. According to my reading of the Regs, if you put an *orange*
    🙂flashing beacon on the back of your bike, that should be legit. You )could argue that a cyclist
    :riding at night is a slow-moving vehicle )(we can't generally get up to full speed in the dark,
    :after all). ) )If you have a steady red light on the back of your bike meeting BS )<mumble>, you
    :can then strictly speaking hang whatever you like on )your person or the luggage of the bike. So I
    :hang my RealLite on the )bike bag. But I would be inclined to restrict rear-facing lights to )red
    :or orange.

    Not necessary - police had red forward facing flashing LEDS round their ankles on horseback !

    🙂 )I might be wrong on this, but I have had confirmation from sources )somewhat more expert if no
    :more authoritative than me. ) )Guy )=== )May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle
    :after posting. )chapmancentral.demon.co.ukchapmancentral.demon.co.uk

    --
    Comm again, Mike.

  3. "pmailkeey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    🙂> For clause 13 (flashing lights), paragraph 2 says: )> **************** )> (2) Paragraph (1)
    :does not apply in respect of- )> (c) a warning beacon or special warning lamp;

    Quoted message said:

    🙂So should I consider my flashing rear LED to be a warning beacon?

    Quoted message said:

    Consider it whatever you want - but remember what it isn't - and that's a steady rear light ! It's
    why they're allowed in ADDITION to .

    Or rather they will be if the Govt. ever gets around to publishing the amendments to the RVLR which
    would allow flashing lights in addition to the mandated BS steady lamp.

    --
    Guy
    ===

    WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting.
    chapmancentral.co.ukchapmancentral.co.uk

  4. "pmailkeey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    🙂If you have a steady red light on the back of your bike meeting BS )<mumble>, you can then
    :strictly speaking hang whatever you like on )your person or the luggage of the bike. So I hang my
    :RealLite on the )bike bag. But I would be inclined to restrict rear-facing lights to )red or
    :orange.

    Quoted message said:

    Not necessary - police had red forward facing flashing LEDS round their ankles on horseback !

    Horses are not road vehicles according to the schedules in the Road Vehiclkes Lighting Regulations.

    --
    Guy
    ===

    WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting.
    chapmancentral.co.ukchapmancentral.co.uk

  5. On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 09:34:06 -0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    🙂"pmailkeey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    🙂"]news:[email hidden]... ) )> 🙂> For clause 13 (flashing lights), paragraph
    :2 says: )> 🙂> **************** )> 🙂> (2) Paragraph (1) does not apply in respect of- )> 🙂> (c) a
    :warning beacon or special warning lamp; ) )> 🙂So should I consider my flashing rear LED to be a
    :warning beacon? ) )> Consider it whatever you want - but remember what it isn't - and )> that's a
    :steady rear light ! It's why they're allowed in ADDITION to . ) )Or rather they will be if the
    :Govt. ever gets around to publishing the )amendments to the RVLR which would allow flashing lights
    :in addition to the )mandated BS steady lamp.

    And then how are you going to distinguish a flashing light and a turn indication which
    also flashes ?
    --
    Comm again, Mike.

  6. On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 09:32:34 -0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    🙂"pmailkeey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    🙂"]news:[email hidden]... ) )> 🙂If you have a steady red light on the back of
    :your bike meeting BS )> 🙂<mumble>, you can then strictly speaking hang whatever you like on )>
    :🙂your person or the luggage of the bike. So I hang my RealLite on the )> 🙂bike bag. But I would
    :be inclined to restrict rear-facing lights to )> 🙂red or orange. ) )> Not necessary - police had
    :red forward facing flashing LEDS round )> their ankles on horseback ! ) )Horses are not road
    :vehicles according to the schedules in the Road )Vehiclkes Lighting Regulations.

    Neither are policemen or cyclists.
    --
    Comm again, Mike.

  7. "pmailkeey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    🙂Horses are not road vehicles according to the schedules in the Road )Vehiclkes Lighting
    :Regulations.

    Quoted message said:

    Neither are policemen or cyclists.

    But bicycles are.

    --
    Guy
    ===

    WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting.
    chapmancentral.co.ukchapmancentral.co.uk

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