Technical advice required - disaster!!!

"jj" <[email hidden]..ww> wrote

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I am in Australia and have been charged with possession of DHEA, Ephedrine
and Clenbuterol.

My, oh, my, how the Land Down Under has changed 🙁

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On a technical point, does anyone have any definitive medical info that
can help me demonstrate that ephedrine IS NOT a steroid? Or for that
matter DHEA?

I know they arent or at least ephedrine surely isnt but I need to counter
the Customs position that it is NOT.

About DHEA I am less sure but it too I am fairly certain isnt.

Any as I said a definitive and verifiable source of info would be
appreciated

Your problem is not what the medical/pharmacological definitions are. Your
problem is what the Government definitions are. If the Law calls orange
juice a narcotic, then, for the purposes of the law, it is.
Pharmacologically, ephedrine and clen are synthetic sympathomimetics, and
DHEA is a steroid hormone. What the Australian Government chooses to call
them is their business, and your problem.

David

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I need to counter
the Customs position that it is NOT

don't you have a lawyer or something?

Pez D Spencer said:

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I need to counter
the Customs position that it is NOT

don't you have a lawyer or something?

And didn't she tell you to not discuss the case on usenet?

Cohen is right. (Gawd, haven't I said *that* before.) Facts aren't
terribly useful. Maybe if you get a jury trial and you're trying for
jury nullification. (Good luck with THAT.) No, you need a plea bargain.

Or possibly a doctor. You don't happen to have asthma, do you? I take
ephedrine (name brand, Bronkaid) for asthma, with my doctor's approval.

Dally

"Dally" confessed

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Pez D Spencer said:

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I need to counter
the Customs position that it is NOT

don't you have a lawyer or something?

And didn't she tell you to not discuss the case on usenet?

Cohen is right. (Gawd, haven't I said *that* before.) Facts aren't
terribly useful. Maybe if you get a jury trial and you're trying for jury
nullification. (Good luck with THAT.) No, you need a plea bargain.

Or possibly a doctor. You don't happen to have asthma, do you? I take
ephedrine (name brand, Bronkaid) for asthma, with my doctor's approval.

Uh huh, sure Dally.

Doc's approval??

Doncha know that ephedrine is EVIL?? It must be a steriod. And you must be
some kinda psycho, roid ragin', druggy monster!!

You can't fool us!!

<G>

On 15 Mar 2006 20:16:20 -0800, "Pez D Spencer" <[email hidden]>

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don't you have a lawyer or something?

Obviously not, or he'd be busy lubing up, and inserting cigarettes in
his [censored] (there's no logical reason to do so, he just likes it)

Lee Michaels said:

"Dally" confessed

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Pez D Spencer said:

>I need to counter
>the Customs position that it is NOT

don't you have a lawyer or something?

And didn't she tell you to not discuss the case on usenet?

Cohen is right. (Gawd, haven't I said *that* before.) Facts aren't
terribly useful. Maybe if you get a jury trial and you're trying for jury
nullification. (Good luck with THAT.) No, you need a plea bargain.

Or possibly a doctor. You don't happen to have asthma, do you? I take
ephedrine (name brand, Bronkaid) for asthma, with my doctor's approval.

Uh huh, sure Dally.

Doc's approval??

Doncha know that ephedrine is EVIL?? It must be a steriod. And you must be
some kinda psycho, roid ragin', druggy monster!!

You can't fool us!!

You are a silly old bugger Lee, but not without a certain degree of
charm! ;o)

JRH said:

Lee Michaels said:

"Dally" confessed

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Pez D Spencer wrote:

>> I need to counter
>> the Customs position that it is NOT
>
> don't you have a lawyer or something?
And didn't she tell you to not discuss the case on usenet?

Cohen is right. (Gawd, haven't I said *that* before.) Facts aren't
terribly useful. Maybe if you get a jury trial and you're trying for jury
nullification. (Good luck with THAT.) No, you need a plea bargain.

Or possibly a doctor. You don't happen to have asthma, do you? I take
ephedrine (name brand, Bronkaid) for asthma, with my doctor's approval.

Uh huh, sure Dally.

Doc's approval??

Doncha know that ephedrine is EVIL?? It must be a steriod. And you must be
some kinda psycho, roid ragin', druggy monster!!

You can't fool us!!

You are a silly old bugger Lee, but not without a certain degree of
charm! ;o)

It would seem to me a Customs issue. I assume they confiscated "stuff".
It is unclear to me that the OP has been charged with any offense or
just relieved of "illegal" substances". Anyhow, plea bargaining isn't an
official thing in Oz as far as I know.

--
Bob Volkmer
rev@IRC

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JRH said:

Lee Michaels said:

"Dally" confessed

> Pez D Spencer wrote:
>
>>> I need to counter
>>> the Customs position that it is NOT
>>
>> don't you have a lawyer or something?
> And didn't she tell you to not discuss the case on usenet?
>
> Cohen is right. (Gawd, haven't I said *that* before.) Facts aren't
> terribly useful. Maybe if you get a jury trial and you're trying for

jury

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> nullification. (Good luck with THAT.) No, you need a plea bargain.
>
> Or possibly a doctor. You don't happen to have asthma, do you? I

take

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> ephedrine (name brand, Bronkaid) for asthma, with my doctor's

approval.

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>
Uh huh, sure Dally.

Doc's approval??

Doncha know that ephedrine is EVIL?? It must be a steriod. And you

must be

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Quoted message said:

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some kinda psycho, roid ragin', druggy monster!!

You can't fool us!!

You are a silly old bugger Lee, but not without a certain degree of
charm! ;o)

It would seem to me a Customs issue. I assume they confiscated "stuff".
It is unclear to me that the OP has been charged with any offense or
just relieved of "illegal" substances". Anyhow, plea bargaining isn't an
official thing in Oz as far as I know.

--
Bob Volkmer
rev@IRC

The OP stated "I am in Australia and have been charged with possession of
.....". I think it's pretty clear that the OP HAS been charged?