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  1. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, B.

    Lafferty (') said:

    "Zak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Well in France, at least, the sport is dead. Since 1998 Festina doping
    scandal the numbers of "licences" at the Cycling French Federation
    decreased year after year. Parents don't want they kids to practice
    such a tainted sport. And young amateurs are more and more reluctant
    to become pro. Indeed it concerns just one country yet one country
    which used to be important in this discipline and is now a non factor.
    You might blame the medias, but anyway, doping killed this sport in
    France.

    Just wait. A French rider may well win the Tour this year. ;-)

    Allors! C'est un cochon de vol!

    I mean, I've a soft spot for Thomas Voeckler, but come on!

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    Perhaps he had Sany Casar in mind. It would be poetic if Cedric V. won.

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  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Zak said:

    Well in France, at least, the sport is dead. Since 1998 Festina doping
    scandal the numbers of "licences" at the Cycling French Federation
    decreased year after year. Parents don't want they kids to practice
    such a tainted sport. And young amateurs are more and more reluctant to
    become pro. Indeed it concerns just one country yet one country which
    used to be important in this discipline and is now a non factor. You
    might blame the medias, but anyway, doping killed this sport in France.

    I'm curious where you get the info that brings you to the conclusion that
    "Parents don't want they kids to practice such a tainted sport." Have there been
    public opinion polls with published results that show this? I'm just wondering if
    you're jumping to conclusions based on your personal prejudices. I think that there
    are many reasons why cycling isn't as popular among French kids, such as simple
    cultural drift.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Never take a tenant with a monkey.

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, "Allez1" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps he had Sany Casar in mind. It would be poetic if Cedric V. won.

    Poetic, oui. Likely, non.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Never take a tenant with a monkey.

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  4. Zak said:

    doping killed this sport in France.

    I'd wager that the odds of becoming a star in a sport that does not test as much as cycling does are
    greater, so the kids focus on that. It's not that they want to dope per se, but sports that are more
    permissive of doping will produce more spectacular stars.

  5. Dear Tom:
    Yeah. To carry the assumption of innocence AND cynicism a bit
    further, if one WAS operating a blood-doping/EPO lab, why WOULDN'T one
    aggressively market just testing services (at first) to pro cycling
    teams. It'd act both as a "cover" for all the neat toys and disposables
    AND as an easy way to get one-on-one with individual riders to make the
    pitch for "enhanced services."

    Robert Leone, just back from the blood bank where I got deferred due to
    low hemoglobin....

    [email hidden]

    Tom Kunich said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hello Allez1:
    Worst case for reputations scenario would be:
    The "clean" teams were sending their riders for private testing to make
    sure they were "clean" to the hematologists who were doing the "dirty"
    work for the "dirty" teams/riders. After all, who'd have the most
    experience in TESTING blood to see that it met UCI/WADA guidelines as a
    quality control measure?

    That is a point. Probably entirely incorrect but certainly a
    possibility. Remember so many riders were testing right on the very
    edge of legal hematocrit that it isn't too far out to suspect that
    everyone was riding the line including those people who would NATURALLY
    exceed the hematocrit but weren't able to document it well enough for
    the UCI.

    My normal hematocrit, living at sea level is 48%-49%. What would it be
    if I lived in Crested Butte, CO, at 9200 feet (2800 meters)?

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