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thebluetrain said:

Exactly as in Riis, Zabel, Basso Rasmussen never rode for USPS/Disco.

But my point was that those proven dopers never tested positive. So testing positive or negative proves nothing other than whether you are a professional doper...or an amateur/numbskull. Or you misjudged what the tests were going to be.

Though USPS riders: Landis, Heras, and Hamilton all did test positive during their careers...

Crankyfeet said:

But my point was that those proven dopers never tested positive. So testing positive or negative proves nothing other than whether you are a professional doper...or an amateur/numbskull. Or you misjudged what the tests were going to be.

Though USPS riders: Landis, Heras, and Hamilton all did test positive during their careers...

Armstrong tested positive 7 times.

Benoit Joachim tested positive for nandralone while at USPS

Nice to see the old arguments start again. 🙂

thebluetrain said:

USPS/Disco was clean. Never had a positive test.

You are right, Sir!

Just don't count Armstrong's six positives for EPO in 1999 and it's a clean slate.

thebluetrain said:

Exactly as in Riis, Zabel, Basso Rasmussen never rode for USPS/Disco.

Basso did ride for Disco.

This is 2008, wake up to the fact that Disco wasn't the clean spot on a dirty sheet. No positives....??!!! Dude, I hate to break this to you, but Lance doped like a madman.

thoughtforfood said:

Basso did ride for Disco.

This is 2008, wake up to the fact that Disco wasn't the clean spot on a dirty sheet. No positives....??!!! Dude, I hate to break this to you, but Lance doped like a madman.

Like a madman, Bluetrain...[img]planetsmilies.comrolleye0018.gifOpen ↗[/img]

thoughtforfood said:

Basso did ride for Disco.

This is 2008, wake up to the fact that Disco wasn't the clean spot on a dirty sheet. No positives....??!!! Dude, I hate to break this to you, but Lance doped like a madman.

Seriously? Lance doped? Wow, that's news to me. I never heard that before.

Quiet day on the boards eh? I feel like I'm watching the movie Groundhog Day. This all seems reiminscently familiar . . .😕

😄

C'dale Girl said:

Seriously? Lance doped? Wow, that's news to me. I never heard that before.

Quiet day on the boards eh? I feel like I'm watching the movie Groundhog Day. This all seems reiminscently familiar . . .😕

😄

Are you kidding...We've been like coiled cobras waiting for a Disco groupie to wander back in here unexpectedly...[img]clicksmilies.comanimal smiley 086.gifOpen ↗[/img]

Ahh...the good ole days...[img]planetsmilies.comrolleye0013.gifOpen ↗[/img]

Crankyfeet said:

Are you kidding...We've been like coiled cobras waiting for a Disco groupie to wander back in here unexpectedly...[img]clicksmilies.comanimal smiley 086.gifOpen ↗[/img]

Ahh...the good ole days...[img]planetsmilies.comrolleye0013.gifOpen ↗[/img]

Well, some people look back on the 80s as so yesterday ("gosh, that's so 80s" 🙄 ), while others look back on the 80s with fond memory and say "ah, remember when" . . .

I personally subscribe to the former myself. 😉 :p 😄

C'dale Girl said:

Well, some people look back on the 80s as so yesterday ("gosh, that's so 80s" 🙄 ), while others look back on the 80s with fond memory and say "ah, remember when" . . .

I personally subscribe to the former myself. 😉 :p 😄

Some peoples stills needs to be F.U.'cated...[img]planetsmilies.comconfused0058.gifOpen ↗[/img]

Crankyfeet said:

Some peoples stills needs to be FU'cated...[img]planetsmilies.comconfused0058.gifOpen ↗[/img]

And wees is just the peoples to do it.

Crankyfeet said:

Are you kidding...We've been like coiled cobras waiting for a Disco groupie to wander back in here unexpectedly...[img]clicksmilies.comanimal smiley 086.gifOpen ↗[/img]

Ahh...the good ole days...[img]planetsmilies.comrolleye0013.gifOpen ↗[/img]

HaHa, theres nothing like a drive by on the cycling forums circle jerk. Are you the pivot man these days? You guys are to F'n easy.

thebluetrain said:

HaHa, theres nothing like a drive by on the cycling forums circle jerk. Are you the pivot man these days? You guys are to F'n easy.

Ahhh...the jokes on you my poor drive-by friend. I actually feel sorry for you considering the amount of [censored] you've had to endure the last couple of years holding onto your fairy tale "santa and the tooth-fairy" belief system. It's a wonder you're still alive. I thought your species had gone the way of the dodo.

Please stay. Its really boring here now with only those who were right. All the other disco groupies have either left or died.

thebluetrain said:

HaHa, theres nothing like a drive by on the cycling forums circle jerk. Are you the pivot man these days? You guys are to F'n easy.

Dude, it's not like you didn't used to believe all that [censored]. "Oh, Lance has such a big Vo2max," or, "He just tries harder," or, "Oh, he's just got a higher pedaling cadence... that's why he's better than everyone else."

Crankyfeet said:

Ahhh...the jokes on you my poor drive-by friend. I actually feel sorry for you considering the amount of [censored] you've had to endure the last couple of years holding onto your fairy tale "santa and the tooth-fairy" belief system. It's a wonder you're still alive. I thought your species had gone the way of the dodo.

Please stay. Its really boring here now with only those who were right. All the other disco groupies have either left or died.

Huh? What are you saying? There's no Santa or tooth-fairy? 😕 I know there's a Santa Claus. I saw him at my Christmas party. And, I've seen him in July and he looks just the same then too.

helmutRoole2 said:

Dude, it's not like you didn't used to believe all that [censored]. "Oh, Lance has such a big Vo2max," or, "He just tries harder," or, "Oh, he's just got a higher pedaling cadence... that's why he's better than everyone else."

no, the one he believed was on Larry King, "you just go the the canary islands and train at altitude and boost your hematocrit from 42 to 49".

Would have been the right time to ask Lance a question why the average hematocrit was 43 before EPO, and why did not everyone go to altitude to train back then, and now, if there is such an advantage.

C'dale Girl said:

Huh? What are you saying? There's no Santa or tooth-fairy? 😕 I know there's a Santa Claus. I saw him at my Christmas party. And, I've seen him in July and he looks just the same then too.

no Santa? then who the heck was in my bed on Christmas Eve?

Crankyfeet said:

Ahhh...the jokes on you my poor drive-by friend. I actually feel sorry for you considering the amount of [censored] you've had to endure the last couple of years holding onto your fairy tale "santa and the tooth-fairy" belief system. It's a wonder you're still alive. I thought your species had gone the way of the dodo.

Please stay. Its really boring here now with only those who were right. All the other disco groupies have either left or died.

eh, cut bluetrain some slack, (s)he's just lashing out. What do they say about the mourning process? First there's the shock, then the denial, then eventually the anger right before resignation and acceptance. Realizing your hero is just another doper is always a bitter pill to swallow.

Leafer said:

eh, cut bluetrain some slack, (s)he's just lashing out. What do they say about the mourning process? First there's the shock, then the denial, then eventually the anger right before resignation and acceptance. Realizing your hero is just another doper is always a bitter pill to swallow.

And occasionally a lawsuit between the "anger" and "resignation and acceptance"? :p

C'dale Girl said:

Huh? What are you saying? There's no Santa or tooth-fairy? 😕 I know there's a Santa Claus. I saw him at my Christmas party. And, I've seen him in July and he looks just the same then too.

So how big is your Lance poster on your bedroom wall then?...😄