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  1. After the morning's incident-packed ride (see previous
    post), the other bike related thing I did yesterday was have
    another stab at teaching my son to ride his bike.

    I took him up to the sports field, best part of two miles
    away so a bit of a slog with him on his bike (still with
    stabilisers fitted at this point) but worth it because it's
    the only decent open space nearby that's smooth enough for
    riding bikes.

    Even better, the sports field has an artificial cricket
    strip, and what's more with a slight end-to-end slope.

    I had only managed to persuade him to come out on his bike
    after much negotiation had led to me promising that I
    wouldn't take the stabilisers off unless he was really happy
    about it. But once we were up there I re-opened negotiations
    and persuaded him to just have a quick go without
    stabilisers - and then I would put them straight back on.
    Honest. So, pedals off, seat lowered, and fingers crossed...

    ...and five minutes later, all thoughts of stabilisers had
    been cast aside as with rapturous delight he scooted back
    and forth along the cricket strip, laughing like... well,
    like a boy with a new bicycle.

    We had a good hour or so of scooting about like this, and
    then he rode all the way home without stabilisers. And when
    we got home he even told his mum "stabilisers are rubbish"!

    You can imagine how proud I felt.

    And huge thanks to all urc contributors who have previously
    given advice on how to teach a child to ride. Aside from the
    basic principle of the pedals off/scooting thing, perhaps
    the most useful bit of advice was the one about steering in
    the direction of a fall - it's one of those things that as a
    cyclist with many years experience you do instinctively. If
    I'd had to work it out for myself, I'm not sure I would have
    been able to, but now it seems obvious.

    I reckon at least one more session without pedals is in
    order - he's still got to learn to use his brakes instead of
    putting his feet down or jumping off the bike, but in one
    short afternoon session we've made such huge progress that
    it would be mean to push him harder.

    d.

  2. davek said:


    You can imagine how proud I felt.


    It's such a Proud Parent moment. Congrats :-)

    Quoted message said:


    I reckon at least one more session without pedals is in
    order - he's still got to learn to use his brakes instead
    of putting his feet down or jumping off the bike, but in
    one short afternoon session we've made such huge progress
    that it would be mean to push him harder.


    just make sure that he wears old shoes until he gets the
    hang of using his brakes, or he'll have the toes out of his
    Good School Shoes in no time. If he has no old shoes, get
    him a cheapo pair of trainers from Shoe Express or
    wherever. Yes, this is the voice of (recent and expensive)
    experience speaking.

    A

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  3. "davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    I had only managed to persuade him to come out on his bike
    after much negotiation had led to me promising that I
    wouldn't take the stabilisers off unless he was really
    happy about it. But once we were up there I re-opened
    negotiations and persuaded him to just have a quick go
    without stabilisers

    Ooh, typical bloody grown up! :-) That's a sneaky trick,
    renegotiating terms once the contract is agreed. One that no
    doubt I will take advantage of as my son grows up 🙂

    Graeme

  4. Following on from davek's message. . .

    [good pedal-warming stuff snipped]

    Quoted message said:


    I reckon at least one more session without pedals is in
    order - he's still got to learn to use his brakes instead
    of putting his feet down or jumping off the bike, but in
    one short afternoon session we've made such huge

    Something I didn't know until last week is that there is a
    limit-stop screw which can be adjusted if the gape of the
    brake lever is too large for tiny hands. Screw it in to
    reduce the maximum open position.

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  5. Peter Fox said:

    Following on from davek's message. . .

    [good pedal-warming stuff snipped]

    Quoted message said:


    I reckon at least one more session without pedals is in
    order - he's still got to learn to use his brakes instead
    of putting his feet down or jumping off the bike, but in
    one short afternoon session we've made such huge

    Something I didn't know until last week is that there is a
    limit-stop screw which can be adjusted if the gape of the
    brake lever is too large for tiny hands. Screw it in to
    reduce the maximum open position.

    Ooh. As someone who has tiny hands (no, really, I do, it's
    not that they're wimpy fingers, honest) do you know if STI
    shifters have such a limit stop too?

    --

    Velvet

  6. Quoted message said:

    And when we got home he even told his mum "stabilisers are
    rubbish"!

    You can imagine how proud I felt.

    Yup - a lovely moment. Many happy years of cycling to come
    no doubt :-)

    Cheers, helen s

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  7. Velvet <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Peter Fox said:

    Following on from davek's message. . .

    [good pedal-warming stuff snipped]

    Quoted message said:


    I reckon at least one more session without pedals is in
    order - he's still got to learn to use his brakes
    instead of putting his feet down or jumping off the
    bike, but in one short afternoon session we've made
    such huge

    Something I didn't know until last week is that there is
    a limit-stop screw which can be adjusted if the gape of
    the brake lever is too large for tiny hands. Screw it in
    to reduce the maximum open position.

    Ooh. As someone who has tiny hands (no, really, I do, it's
    not that they're wimpy fingers, honest) do you know if STI
    shifters have such a limit stop too?

    Don't think they do. You can however insert a ferule
    (metal tube) between the lever and the entrance of cable
    into the sheath for some levers to achieve the same
    effect. I have done this several times for small hands.
    Not tried on STI but I would expect it to work. Ferule
    needs to be about 1cm long.

    My son's Trek did not have the adjusting screws so I did
    just this.

    Poor diagram:

    O-==-I----------> to brake ^ ^ ^ cable stop ferule

    cable end

    kind regards,

    Daren
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    remove outer garment for reply

  8. Daren Austin:

    Quoted message said:

    My son's Trek did not have the adjusting screws so I did
    just this.

    I made sure that the bike had limit-stop adjusters on the
    brake levers when I bought it - it bothers me greatly the
    number of kids I see out and about who clearly can't reach
    their brake levers comfortably. Some of them seem unable to
    reach the levers at all.

    I may be guilty of riding at reckless speeds occasionally,
    but at least I have brakes I can use. It doesn't matter how
    slowly you ride if you have no means of stopping yourself.

    d.

  9. "davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Daren Austin:

    Quoted message said:

    My son's Trek did not have the adjusting screws so I did
    just this.

    I made sure that the bike had limit-stop adjusters on the
    brake levers when I bought it - it bothers me greatly the
    number of kids I see out and about who clearly can't reach
    their brake levers comfortably. Some of them seem unable
    to reach the levers at all.


    Absolutely. I frequently make adjustments to other
    children's bikes when they ride up and down our street.

    I did question Trek about the levers and their comment was
    that the lever was a small design already. Not really small
    enough for a 5yo - hence my adjustment. Probably OK for a
    7-10yo (target market)

    It was the Aluminium frame, dual drilled cranks and very
    adjustable bars that sold the bike to me, and the fact that
    Lance rides a Trek that sold it to Thomas :-)

    kind regards, Daren
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    remove outer garment for rply

  10. "Daren Austin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "davek" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Daren Austin:

    Quoted message said:

    My son's Trek did not have the adjusting screws so I
    did just this.

    I made sure that the bike had limit-stop adjusters on
    the brake levers


    when

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I bought it - it bothers me greatly the number of kids I
    see out and


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    who clearly can't reach their brake levers comfortably.
    Some of them


    seem

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    unable to reach the levers at all.


    Absolutely. I frequently make adjustments to other
    children's bikes when they ride up and down our street.

    LOL...got to admit, thats sounds funny as written!

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