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  1. Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found out Armstrong leads Ullrich by
    1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec). How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same peloton.
    What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?

  2. vintage said:

    Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found out Armstrong leads Ullrich by
    1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec). How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same peloton.
    What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?

    Jan Ullrich picked up 2 seconds in the early sprint

    Jan

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  3. [email hidden] (vintage) wrote in news:1eeb936f.0307250848.226d0745 @posting.google.com:

    Quoted message said:

    Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found out Armstrong leads Ullrich by
    1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec). How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same peloton.
    What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?

    Ullrich went for an interim sprint early in the stage and took second ahead of Armstrong's third.
    Ullrich gained 4 seconds, and Armstrong gained 2. Net was two seconds to Ullrich. A somewhat silly
    move and high-risk move, but there you have it.

  4. Quote by Armstong " Its not like I'm going to lose the tour by two seconds". Oh dear Lance why cant
    you lose by two seconds ??? Two seconds or two hours. If Jan takes 1 minute 7 seconds out of
    Armstrong he will have won by only 2 seconds, and somehow Armstrong feels he is above this ? Boy is
    it gonna be fun tommorow !!!!!

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    Irrationally held truths may be more harmfull than reasoned errors. "TimBenz" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (vintage) wrote in news:1eeb936f.0307250848.226d0745 @posting.google.com:

    Quoted message said:

    Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found out Armstrong leads Ullrich
    by 1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec). How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same
    peloton. What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?

    Ullrich went for an interim sprint early in the stage and took second


    ahead

    Quoted message said:

    of Armstrong's third. Ullrich gained 4 seconds, and Armstrong gained 2.


    Net

    Quoted message said:

    was two seconds to Ullrich. A somewhat silly move and high-risk move, but there you have it.

  5. TimBenz said:

    [email hidden] (vintage) wrote in news:1eeb936f.0307250848.226d0745 @posting.google.com:

    Quoted message said:

    Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found out Armstrong leads Ullrich
    by 1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec). How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same
    peloton. What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?

    Ullrich went for an interim sprint early in the stage and took second ahead of Armstrong's third.
    Ullrich gained 4 seconds, and Armstrong gained 2. Net was two seconds to Ullrich. A somewhat silly
    move and high-risk move, but there you have it.

    Why silly and high-risk? He's a better sprinter and he knows it.

  6. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ullrich went for an interim sprint early in the stage and took second


    ahead

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of Armstrong's third. Ullrich gained 4 seconds, and Armstrong gained 2.


    Net

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was two seconds to Ullrich. A somewhat silly move and high-risk move, but there you have it.

    Why silly and high-risk? He's a better sprinter and he knows it.

    Clearly, Ullrich is thinking that Saturday's outcome, and thus the outcome of the entire tour, could
    come down to a difference of seconds, and that if he can nip a couple off LA's lead... Bookies
    should be taking bets on whether or not the Tour will be won this year by a time difference
    exceeding one minute.

    Tomorrow is going to be the Clash of the Titans.

  7. "TimBenz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (vintage) wrote in news:1eeb936f.0307250848.226d0745 @posting.google.com:

    Quoted message said:

    Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found out Armstrong leads Ullrich
    by 1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec). How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same
    peloton. What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?

    Ullrich went for an interim sprint early in the stage and took second


    ahead

    Quoted message said:

    of Armstrong's third. Ullrich gained 4 seconds, and Armstrong gained 2.


    Net

    Quoted message said:

    was two seconds to Ullrich. A somewhat silly move and high-risk move, but there you have it.

    Not silly, cool as hell. With that move he showed that he means business, he's ready for a fight.
    All those who act so positive of the outcome are ignorant. What's going to happen tomorrow is so up
    in the air, it's great.

  8. It was a nice bit of gamesmanship, but it could backfire. The last thing Ullrich wants to do is get
    Lance mad. I read somewhere (Dylan Casey?) how to win the tour de France

    Step 1) Don't make Lance mad Step 2) Don't make Lance mad ...

    "Gerrit Stolte" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    TimBenz said:

    [email hidden] (vintage) wrote in news:1eeb936f.0307250848.226d0745 @posting.google.com:

    Quoted message said:

    Just checked online today's 18th stage TDF at OLN website and found out Armstrong leads Ullrich
    by 1min 5sec (not 1min 7sec). How come? I thought they crossed the finish line on the same
    peloton. What's up with that????? Or is it another OLN error?

    Ullrich went for an interim sprint early in the stage and took second


    ahead

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of Armstrong's third. Ullrich gained 4 seconds, and Armstrong gained 2.


    Net

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was two seconds to Ullrich. A somewhat silly move and high-risk move, but there you have it.

    Why silly and high-risk? He's a better sprinter and he knows it.

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  9. trg said:

    It was a nice bit of gamesmanship, but it could backfire. The last thing Ullrich wants to do is get
    Lance mad. I read somewhere (Dylan Casey?) how to win the tour de France

    Step 1) Don't make Lance mad Step 2) Don't make Lance mad

    Step 3) Make Lance mad and get him hyperventilating

  10. Gerrit Stolte <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    Why silly and high-risk? He's a better sprinter and he knows it.

    Even his directeur sportif called it risky. While he could gain two seconds, what if he crashed?
    What were the odds he would take time? After all, Armstrong is almost certainly the better sprinter.

  11. TimBenz said:

    Gerrit Stolte <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    Why silly and high-risk? He's a better sprinter and he knows it.

    Even his directeur sportif called it risky. While he could gain two seconds, what if he crashed?
    What were the odds he would take time? After all, Armstrong is almost certainly the better
    sprinter.

    [censored].

  12. trg said:

    I read somewhere (Dylan Casey?) how to win the tour de France

    Step 1) Don't make Lance mad Step 2) Don't make Lance mad

    But won't Lance get mad anyway when he's about to loose?

  13. "TimBenz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Gerrit Stolte <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    Why silly and high-risk? He's a better sprinter and he knows it.

    Even his directeur sportif called it risky. While he could gain two seconds, what if he crashed?
    What were the odds he would take time? After all, Armstrong is almost certainly the better
    sprinter.

    Spoken like a true partisan.

  14. "Scott Downie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Quote by Armstong " Its not like I'm going to lose the tour by two seconds". Oh dear Lance why
    cant you lose by two seconds ??? Two seconds or two hours. If Jan takes 1 minute 7 seconds out of
    Armstrong he will have won by only 2 seconds, and somehow Armstrong feels he is above this ? Boy
    is it gonna be fun tommorow !!!!!

    ????????

  15. "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    "TimBenz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Gerrit Stolte <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    Why silly and high-risk? He's a better sprinter and he knows it.

    Even his directeur sportif called it risky. While he could gain two seconds, what if he crashed?
    What were the odds he would take time? After all, Armstrong is almost certainly the better
    sprinter.

    Spoken like a true partisan.

    Hmmm, "partisan"? This isn't U.S. politics. And more importantly, as I've said many times here on
    r.b.r., I was pulling for Ullrich to win this year. Ullrich _did_ waste efforts this year, whether
    on the Tourmalet or on that field sprint. While Armstrong made mistakes, Ullrich made more.

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