TDF Crowd Math

Mike Kruger said:

from Velonews.com today:
"Tour de France officials have announced a crowd estimate of 900,000 lining
the course" along the l'Alpe d'Huez.

Let's see. The course is 15.5km. That works out to 58 people per meter of
road. Figuring people are packed in like sardines (getting half a meter of
width, about 20 inches, each), this would still be 15 people deep, along
both sides of he course, for the entire length of the course. Seems
unlikely.

Kinda like the Million Man March.

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:10:37 -0500, "Mike Kruger"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Uh, isn't 'the pursuit of happiness' thing in the Declaration of
Independence, not the Constitution?

Yesterday, at the conclusion of the Ad'H TT, I could have sworn I heard
Phill Ligget say that Lance's avg speed was 23KPH, or 15 MPH, having
completed the 10 KM (6 mile) course in just under 40 minutes.

Hass his arithmetic always been this bad?

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Dan Daniel [email hidden]

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Uh, isn't 'the pursuit of happiness' thing in the Declaration of
Independence, not the Constitution?

So blame Ben Franklin, not Mike K. It was a quote.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

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Dan Daniel [email hidden]

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Uh, isn't 'the pursuit of happiness' thing in the Declaration of
Independence, not the Constitution?

So blame Ben Franklin, not Mike K. It was a quote.

I got this quote from BeliefNet's "Thought of the Day". But Dan is right --
"life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is in the Declaration, not the
Constitution.

Seems like an odd error for Ben to have made, since he was there for all
this stuff. So I went hunting.

I entered just the rest of the quote, i.e. "doesn't guarantee happiness,
only the pursuit of it." into Google, and it responded with several screens
which all specified "U.S. Constitution" and "Ben Franklin".

So, if this is not the correct quote, at least there are lots of other
people who are wrong.

--
Mike Kruger
The U.S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it.
You have to catch up with it yourself.
[Benjamin Franklin]

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"Mike Kruger" [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

I entered just the rest of the quote, i.e. "doesn't guarantee happiness,
only the pursuit of it." into Google, and it responded with several screens
which all specified "U.S. Constitution" and "Ben Franklin".

So, if this is not the correct quote, at least there are lots of other
people who are wrong.

--
Mike Kruger
The U.S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it.
You have to catch up with it yourself.
[Benjamin Franklin]

From what I've read, that quote supposedly was a reply to someone complaining
to Ben that the Constitution guaranteed happiness yet he had not gotten his
share. In that context, its understandable, even clever.
Ben may or may not have said it. He never wrote it and CNN wasn't around then
to record it if he did so it could well be a fabrication, rather like David
Millar's original statements about his EPO doping. (Cycling content rule
satisfied.)

Regards,
Bob Hunt

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Quoted message said:

Yesterday, at the conclusion of the Ad'H TT, I could have sworn I heard
Phill Ligget say that Lance's avg speed was 23KPH, or 15 MPH, having
completed the 10 KM (6 mile) course in just under 40 minutes.

15.5 km /40min *60 min * 1 hour = 23 kph

Quoted message said:

Hass his arithmetic always been this bad?

no, plus he didn't do the math, it was the software showing data.

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"May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!"

Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

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Mike Kruger said:

Let's see. The course is 15.5km. That works out to 58 people per meter of
road. Figuring people are packed in like sardines (getting half a meter of
width, about 20 inches, each), this would still be 15 people deep, along
both sides of he course, for the entire length of the course. Seems
unlikely.

There's two sides to the road (in most areas) and there are multistory
viewing areas and stands. And some fans show up to party and watch the
whole thing on TV (still remember the picture from three years ago of
the guy looking up from the TV to see the bike racers go past), so
they wouldn't have to line the road. Would guess that it is still
optimistic.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Chris Zacho The Wheelman said:

Yesterday, at the conclusion of the Ad'H TT, I could have sworn I heard
Phill Ligget say that Lance's avg speed was 23KPH, or 15 MPH, having
completed the 10 KM (6 mile) course in just under 40 minutes.

Hass his arithmetic always been this bad?

Your numbers are off. The course was 15.5 km, not 10 km. Liggett's
math was correct.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

(Chris Zacho 'The Wheelman') said:

Yesterday, at the conclusion of the Ad'H TT, I could have sworn I heard
Phill Ligget say that Lance's avg speed was 23KPH, or 15 MPH, having
completed the 10 KM (6 mile) course in just under 40 minutes.

Hass his arithmetic always been this bad?

The TT was 15.5 km, not 10 km